Revenge of the Fallen Transformers: ROTF User Review Thread

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I give this movie an 8/10. A notch below the first one which I give a 9/10. The main problem I had with this movie was the humor. It was overdone and just childish.

It was good to see Soundwave, loved the voice and how his character was utilized. I hope we see more of him in the next film. Ravage was nice to see and I liked how they introduced the idea of searching for Energon in this film. Enjoyed the nod to Galvatron with a rebuilt tanklike Megatron. Got a kick out of Jetfire, and Wheelie for the most part was pretty funny.

I wish we could have seen more of the Fallen and have a longer fight with OP at the end. Seemed there was more potential there that could have been tapped into. Otherwise, great action/transforming/fight sequences. Just please cut down on the childish humor for the next one.
 
People, friends;

If a film doesn't appeal to your liking why can't you just proclaim that and by all means tell the rest of us why. What's happening here, and what happens with most bay movies in general I've noticed, is that people begin to lob grandiose statements about the majority of the movie going audience or insults implying that that if you liked it you are a neanderthal or perv or a sheep or a supporter of soul-less cinema.
At the same time, a critic, that is put off by his audience critiquing his own critiques pokes at their intelligence. You'll see all that and more in this very thread.

why wasn't the "bad" film wolverine: origins received this way?

truly something to think about


...bring on TF3

good post....and as an addendum....putting the word FACT after a statement doesn't make it so....a lot of that is going around lately and its quite silly
 
why wasn't the "bad" film wolverine: origins received this way?

truly something to think about


...bring on TF3

Expectations for ROTF were on another level compared to Wolverine. It's not even a fair comparison. The first one no doubt paved the way for extremely high expectations. By the BO numbers, it looks like a successful campaign, but when you start perusing various internet boards, critics, and pseudo-critics, it's quite clear the movie didn't even begin to touch the potential that was expected.

It had the following and the force behind it to go down as one of those epic sequels that wins fans across the board. Instead we got an expensive and derisive piece of film that could've been much better.
 
People, friends;

If a film doesn't appeal to your liking why can't you just proclaim that and by all means tell the rest of us why. What's happening here, and what happens with most bay movies in general I've noticed, is that people begin to lob grandiose statements about the majority of the movie going audience or insults implying that that if you liked it you are a neanderthal or perv or a sheep or a supporter of soul-less cinema.
At the same time, a critic, that is put off by his audience critiquing his own critiques pokes at their intelligence. You'll see all that and more in this very thread.

why wasn't the "bad" film wolverine: origins received this way?

truly something to think about

...bring on TF3

Friends, Romans, countrymen...

First, Most of the critics of ROTF are indeed posting their initial criticisms explaining what they didn't like and why. It's the resulting pig-pile of "What? You're just a Bay-hater!" and "You don't know how to have fun at the movies!" that usually results in some pointed comments about the more outspoken fans of the movie. Not in every case, but often.

I posted a negative review after seeing an advance screening and was immediately besieged by ROTF supporters calling into question my powers of observation BEFORE they even saw the movie for themselves. So yeah, it goes both ways.

Second, Wolverine was indeed torn apart a LOT on these boards, that is indisputable. However, Wolverine's box office was only "good" (currently $170 mil US), not blockbuster level. Plus, the director of Wolverine is still pretty much a no-name that doesn't have a debatable "style" or a rabid fanbase like Michael Bay. That, coupled with the two-months ago time factor, is why emotions are running much higher for ROTF.

Truly a deep, deep philosophical issue to think about and wax introspective over...

Bring on TF3 -- so we can find out once and for all if the writer's strike was really responsible for most of what was wrong with ROTF. :cwink:
 
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Well, I just came back from my viewing of TF: ROTF. And even if my mind hurts and my @@ are swollen (one can take that much of Megan Fox οn a giant screen), I decided to share a review with you.

The beginning was good in terms of pacing, action and introducing Optimus by having him transforming in mid-air was very cool. And I kept looking for something to bash, but the movie was progressing rather well. Having Megan Fox perfectly lit and shot at with a hi-def camera does some...things in your...metabolism too. It was only after the Kitchen Decepticons appeared that I started cringing. But still, the movie had good pacing and I found myself having a good time.

I enjoyed viewing a College in the "Bayverse". Cool cribs with top-notch PC's and HD TVs, half-naked, half-dressed chicks walking around, parties and killer bots...Killer bots? That look like Isabel Lucas? So far so good. I can accept the ol' Terminatrix plot (surely, she must have killed the human version and take her place, because registering in a college BEFORE your target does, would be silly). I can even thank Michael Bay for giving me gratuitous shots of her... you know, but once she was revealed to be a Pretender and did that tongue thing, it was beginning to surpass my "TOO MUCH" indicator. It looked very bad and was overdone after the first 3 seconds.

All the bad parts that critics and fans point at were there: The Twins are 2009's Jar Jar Binks, void of character development and sense of humor. That Leo guy that was put there as a sidekick was way too annoying for me (the "Oh-My-God" is this movie's "No!No!No!No!No!No!"). And there was also something else, I couldn't put my finger on it, but about 30 minutes before the end, it hit me: This movie is OVER-MILITARIZED to the point of ridicule! OK, I can accept the Autobots working with the US Army, but Bay overdid it: At one point, a military guy (I can't even remember all the ranks), reports of some "PSDs that found some traces of IGAs moving towards the POM. Have the TEVs ready to launch in OH-6-Bravo-Ten" or something. And then the scene changes to the &$"§% PENTAGON!! And after that to some soldiers in the desert, fighting the Decepticons with..machine guns? Like that ever stopped a single alien, let alone GIANT,NEARLY-INDESTRUCTIBLE ROBOTS! And more airplanes, tanks and even an EXPERIMENTAL RAY GUN??? Big minus here... They could edit out the military scenes and save half an hour of screen time, without any lack of plot (?) development.

Another big minus, spotted half-way into the movie, was the constant cursing. A-hole? Mother.....? P&/%? While I am not to be offended by those, I found out that they took me out of the movie. They felt forced and bad-delivered.

The movie peaked for me when the Autobots arrived to save Sam from getting scalped until the forest battle and Optimus' death. There was something awesome about..let me think...oh, yes, robots actually shooting and fighting each other! And all in spectacular blending with the environment, with 50 explosions per second and Steve "I am the next Hans Zimmer when it comes to militaristic soundtracks" Jablonsky's score sending pleasure waves to my ears.

After that, it was dragging a bit. Jetfire was good in concept but I wasn't THAT impressed by him. The fart/old-guy slapstick didn't help either and his sacrifice near the end felt a bit forced, but the result was still cool.

The Fallen was very interesting, a Palpatine to Megatron's Vader (he even says "my apprentice" at one point) but also a bit underused.

I could also live with a little less Agent Simmons. He was over the top but still, the german audience seemed to LOVE him, I mean, like, they were laughing at everything he said or did.

This is it more or less. The plot doesn't take much more analysis, I think :P
Despite my negative tone, I give it 4/5,while I deliberately ignore all its faults, just because, in the end, I had a good time.:oldrazz:
 
Guys, TF2 is not the death of cinema



Macgruber: The Motion Picture, however...
Will be.
 
I'll keep it simple: WORST movie I've EVER seen in a theater. No character or story development, horrendous script, lousy acting and direction, plotholes that the galaxy could pass through, and humor that looked like something you might expect from a soft-core porn film. This movie is just plain bad.
 
I'll keep it simple: WORST movie I've EVER seen in a theater. No character or story development, horrendous script, lousy acting and direction, plotholes that the galaxy could pass through, and humor that looked like something you might expect from a soft-core porn film. This movie is just plain bad.

I love you :yay:
 
I'll keep it simple: WORST movie I've EVER seen in a theater. No character or story development, horrendous script, lousy acting and direction, plotholes that the galaxy could pass through, and humor that looked like something you might expect from a soft-core porn film. This movie is just plain bad.

So you've never seen a Ben Affleck movie in a theatre, is what you're saying.
 
Ben Affleck bashing? Did I just step out of a time machine in the year 2006?
 
I did give ROTF 5/10 you know. I didn't hate every aspect of the film (I loved Ravage, for example).
However, we're at a point now where the outspoken fans of ROTF have had their say about how super-awesome everything was, and it's honestly more fun and interesting for those of us who DIDN'T love the movie to compare notes on all the stuff that was wrong with it.
So yeah, maybe not all the negative criticism is valid, but when a movie has as much "WTF" elements in it as ROTF, that criticism is going to go on a long time, so get used to it.

Friends, Romans, countrymen...



First, Most of the critics of ROTF are indeed posting their initial criticisms explaining what they didn't like and why. It's the resulting pig-pile of "What? You're just a Bay-hater!" and "You don't know how to have fun at the movies!" that usually results in some pointed comments about the more outspoken fans of the movie. Not in every case, but often.



I posted a negative review after seeing an advance screening and was immediately besieged by ROTF supporters calling into question my powers of observation BEFORE they even saw the movie for themselves. So yeah, it goes both ways.



Bring on TF3 -- so we can find out once and for all if the writer's strike was really responsible for most of what was wrong with ROTF.

:applaud yup my scentiments exactly!!!
 
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People, friends;

If a film doesn't appeal to your liking why can't you just proclaim that and by all means tell the rest of us why. What's happening here, and what happens with most bay movies in general I've noticed, is that people begin to lob grandiose statements about the majority of the movie going audience or insults implying that that if you liked it you are a neanderthal or perv or a sheep or a supporter of soul-less cinema.
At the same time, a critic, that is put off by his audience critiquing his own critiques pokes at their intelligence. You'll see all that and more in this very thread.

why wasn't the "bad" film wolverine: origins received this way?

truly something to think about


...bring on TF3

Well put Marvin! All these Elitist who insult others for liking the movie really need to get a life. I LOL at them really because this movie still made a crap load of money dispite critics and haters. I will admit this movie dose have flaws and I could have done without somethings but I was still entertained through the movie and it seem the general public agrees.
I enjoyed this way more than I enjoyed Wolverine and Terminator was dissapointing and forgetable but not horrible like Woverine. Haters say what you will about the humor in this movie but aleast Bay didnt totally BUTCHER the characters like in Wolverine I mean they took a huge dump on Dead Pool and Gambit was useless even though the guy who played him did a decent job. Since the Gospel on Nolan came out every fanboy on this site bashes every other movie. ( Dont get me wrong I love the dark knight too but I am not comparing it to every other movie).

But do any of you insult or complain about those movies like you do here? Noo for some reason you think this movie is the worst ever even though it is not. I think people just hate bay and will hate any movie that he does. Sure he is arrogant at times but if he made a Transformers movie that was dark and serious and toned down the humor. Bay haters would still find something to complain and cry about and claim that the movie is horrible etc. So screw the haters bring on Transformers 3 lol.
 
People, friends;

If a film doesn't appeal to your liking why can't you just proclaim that and by all means tell the rest of us why. What's happening here, and what happens with most bay movies in general I've noticed, is that people begin to lob grandiose statements about the majority of the movie going audience or insults implying that that if you liked it you are a neanderthal or perv or a sheep or a supporter of soul-less cinema.
At the same time, a critic, that is put off by his audience critiquing his own critiques pokes at their intelligence. You'll see all that and more in this very thread.

why wasn't the "bad" film wolverine: origins received this way?

truly something to think about


...bring on TF3

Well put Marvin! All these Elitist who insult others for liking the movie really need to get a life. I LOL at them really because this movie still made a crap load of money dispite critics and haters. I will admit this movie dose have flaws and I could have done without somethings but I was still entertained through the movie and it seem the general public agrees.
I enjoyed this way more than I enjoyed Wolverine and Terminator was dissapointing and forgetable but not horrible like Woverine. Haters say what you will about the humor in this movie but aleast Bay didnt totally BUTCHER the characters like in Wolverine I mean they took a huge dump on Dead Pool and Gambit was useless even though the guy who played him did a decent job. Since the Gospel on Nolan came out every fanboy on this site bashes every other movie. ( Dont get me wrong I love the dark knight too but I am not comparing it to every other movie).

But do any of you insult or complain about those movies like you do here? Noo for some reason you think this movie is the worst ever even though it is not. I think people just hate bay and will hate any movie that he does. Sure he is arrogant at times but if he made a Transformers movie that was dark and serious and toned down the humor. Bay haters would still find something to complain and cry about and claim that the movie is horrible etc. So screw the haters bring on Transformers 3 lol.

Well said, Marvin and Mr. Para. :hehe:
 
Well put Marvin! All these Elitist who insult others for liking the movie really need to get a life. I LOL at them really because this movie still made a crap load of money dispite critics and haters. I will admit this movie dose have flaws and I could have done without somethings but I was still entertained through the movie and it seem the general public agrees.
I enjoyed this way more than I enjoyed Wolverine and Terminator was dissapointing and forgetable but not horrible like Woverine. Haters say what you will about the humor in this movie but aleast Bay didnt totally BUTCHER the characters like in Wolverine I mean they took a huge dump on Dead Pool and Gambit was useless even though the guy who played him did a decent job. Since the Gospel on Nolan came out every fanboy on this site bashes every other movie. ( Dont get me wrong I love the dark knight too but I am not comparing it to every other movie).

But do any of you insult or complain about those movies like you do here? Noo for some reason you think this movie is the worst ever even though it is not. I think people just hate bay and will hate any movie that he does. Sure he is arrogant at times but if he made a Transformers movie that was dark and serious and toned down the humor. Bay haters would still find something to complain and cry about and claim that the movie is horrible etc. So screw the haters bring on Transformers 3 lol.

1. There are people on both sides insulting the other, not just the people who don't like it.

2. God, I hear you man. Whenever I read a review and I see "TDK" I immediately stop reading it. I'm tired of everything getting compared to it.

3. Trust me, they complain about it everywhere, not just here.

4. You are probably right. :(
 
(Waits for someone to assume they personally have been been called "elitist" to take offense).
 
(Waits for someone to assume they personally have been been called "elitist" to take offense).
I wouldn't get offended if I was personally called as such, since the usage of the word more often than not has a connotation of anti-intellectual pride.

In regards to the fact that he has been labeled "elitist" for his views on TF2:

"I am beginning to think there may be something to this notion of "the elites." Yes, correct usage is "the elite," but try explaining that to the people who use it. However you spell it, I hope I'm an "elitist." Who wouldn't want to be? Consider the alternative." - Roger Ebert
 
SIR! I have been offended!!! Deeply! Gravely! Offended!



:hehe:


It really baffles me that you continue to come to these boards and you hated the movie so freakin much. And you called everyone who liked it a ******. Your the kind of person that I was refering to in my previous post. why dont you go back to the dark knight boards or something.
 
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