Revenge of the Fallen Transformers: ROTF User Review Thread

[DarKJediKnight]

Oh so there are two categories of film now... Every film falls into the first category, then there's just a Micheal bay film .

 

[Theweepeople]

Perhaps you didn't read my entire post, as I'm fairly certain I addressed this. I knew exactly what to expect, I got what I expected, and it sucked. The fact that I knew it was going to suck didn't make it any better.

I don't understand idea that the crapiness should be excused because it's Michael Bay. These films should not have been crap, and if crap is all Michael Bay can produce, he should not have directed these films.

I understand your perspective but, there are many factors that determine how I review a film. Two of the strongest factors are source material and expectations. The way I review a film based off a toy line(Transformers) or ride(Pirates of the Carribean) is going to be completey different than films adapted from classic comics(Batman) and great novels(Lord of the Rings).

I expected Transformers 2007 to have a weak storyline because the majority of the cartoons and comics had poorly developed stories. However, I enjoyed the first film inspite of it's flaws because it was still action packed, had great CGI, and was very entertaining. I gave the film a 8.5 out of 10.

After seeing the first film there were many reasons to believe the sequel would be much better. There was plenty of time to refine the technology and reuse sets. I thought the writers would have more time to put together a more coherent script thereby, reducing the dialogue of people and other pointless characters. Finally, I was praying that Micheal Bay would have less control over what was in the script.

Unfortunately most of my expectations were not met so I gave the sequel a 7 out of 10 rating because it was at least entertaining. The storyline of the sequel made the first film's weak storyline look like a masterpiece. I was happy with the idea of transformers getting more screen time but, not with two moronic and irrelevant characters made up by Micheal Bay nor with the most hated autobot character from the G1 series.

 

[omid17]

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Well said

 

[Sarge 2.0]

I understand your perspective but, their are many factors that determine how I review a film. Two of the strongest factors are source material and expectations. The way I review a film based off a toy line(Transformers) or ride(Pirates of the Carribean) is going to be completey different than films adapted from classic comics(Batman) and great novels(Lord of the Rings).

I expected Transformers 2007 to have a weak storyline because the majority of the cartoons and comics had poorly developed stories. However, I enjoyed the first film inspite of it's flaws because it was still action packed, had great CGI, and was very entertaining. I gave the film a 8.5 out of 10.

After seeing the first film there were many reasons to believe the sequel would be much better. There was plenty of time to refine the technology and reuse sets. I thought the writers would have more time to put together a more coherent script thereby, reducing the dialogue of people and other pointless characters. Finally, I was praying that Micheal Bay would have less control over what was in the script.

Unfortunately most of my expectations were not met so I gave the sequel a 7 out of 10 rating because it was at least entertaining. The storyline of the sequel made the first film's weak storyline look like a masterpiece. I was happy with the idea of transformers getting more screen time but, not with two moronic and irrelevant characters made up by Micheal Bay nor with the most hated autobot character from the G1 series.

You're still making excuses for bad filmmaking just because it's a toy movie

 

[SsM]

I understand your perspective but, their are many factors that determine how I review a film. Two of the strongest factors are source material and expectations. The way I review a film based off a toy line(Transformers) or ride(Pirates of the Carribean) is going to be completey different than films adapted from classic comics(Batman) and great novels(Lord of the Rings).

I expected Transformers 2007 to have a weak storyline because the majority of the cartoons and comics had poorly developed stories. However, I enjoyed the first film inspite of it's flaws because it was still action packed, had great CGI, and was very entertaining. I gave the film a 8.5 out of 10.

After seeing the first film there were many reasons to believe the sequel would be much better. There was plenty of time to refine the technology and reuse sets. I thought the writers would have more time to put together a more coherent script thereby, reducing the dialogue of people and other pointless characters. Finally, I was praying that Micheal Bay would have less control over what was in the script.

Unfortunately most of my expectations were not met so I gave the sequel a 7 out of 10 rating because it was at least entertaining. The storyline of the sequel made the first film's weak storyline look like a masterpiece. I was happy with the idea of transformers getting more screen time but, not with two moronic and irrelevant characters made up by Micheal Bay nor with the most hated autobot character from the G1 series.

If you take a good look at it, the CGI was all over the place in terms of quality.

 

[Theweepeople]

You're still making excuses for bad filmmaking just because it's a toy movie

I don't see how having a realist perspective about the potential of a franchise's quality gets translated into me making an excuse. Furthermore, I've already admitted mutiple times that this film had plenty of bad filmmaking and yet I found the movie to be very entertaining because of good action and groundbreaking special effects that were so detailed they caused some of ILM's computers to crash.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

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[Ipodman]

Apparently Frank Welker (Voice of G1 Megatron) voiced Soundwave in ROTF, and he havent watched the movie yet...

I applaud Mr Bay for not putting Frank Welker as the voice of Megs in TF1 because the G1 voice just doesnt fit the live action Megs...

 

[J.Howlett]

The CG was only all over the place because of the time ILM had compared to the workload. The first film's visual effects are damn near perfect at every turn. In this sequel, it does vary but not because ILM can't do the work. They had too much work and not enough time.

Seriously, I still dig the hell out of the film even though the script problems are huge, but the more I think about the film, the more upset I get at Paramount for rushing this thing. Knowing that a writer's strike was about to happen, they greenlit a 200 million dollar plus film based on an outline Bay and the writers came up with on the fly, just so they could make the release date.

They should've waited until next summer to release this sequel just based on the amount of work ILM would have to do. These robots are too complicated to do in just 18 months...especially since the robot numbers almost tripled.

 

[Avangarde]

I normally don't bother going to shootfortheedit.com to see what Bay dribbles out to the public, but has anyone heard from him in regards to the film and it's problems recently?

 

[rashad]

I normally don't bother going to shootfortheedit.com to see what Bay dribbles out to the public, but has anyone heard from him in regards to the film and it's problems recently?

I read the DVD commentary with Orci and Kurtzman is pretty interesting.

 

[Avangarde]

I'm planning on buying it on Bluray, but only after a price drop. I'm in no particular rush to see it again.

 

[terry78]

I'll probably pick it up because it's just one of those movies that belongs in a collection. Every man should have at least one Michael Bay movie in his movie collection. I still remember seeing it in IMAX, the forest fight.....Bay said it was going to be "to scale" and he nailed the size of the characters down pat.

 

[CelticPredator]

I loved this movie, so i'll be getting for sure.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

I'll probably pick it up because it's just one of those movies that belongs in a collection. Every man should have at least one Michael Bay movie in his movie collection.

I have all of his movies. Even Pearl Harbor, but only because of my obsession with Kate Beckinsale. t:

 

[Bunker]

The forest fight was the lone redeemable quality in this.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

That was awesome. As was the start in Shanghai. Sideswipe is a ****in' badass.

 

[Nathan]

I need a fan cut. Just all of the action scenes put together, it's the only way I can watch the movie.

 

[Nathan]

*double*

 

[Jake Cassidy]

I need a fan cut. Just all of the action scenes put together, it's the only way I can watch the movie.

That's what I need for TDK. Just the Joker scenes and nothing else. t:

 

[Sarge 2.0]

I need a fan cut. Just all of the action scenes put together, it's the only way I can watch the movie.

They were incomprehensible so I dunno what you want that for.

 

[CelticPredator]

The Two Face scene at the end was the best part.....:confused

 

[Jake Cassidy]

The Two Face scene at the end was the best part.....:confused

Apart from the Joker, the movie has become boring for me. I'm not saying it's not good because it is. I'm just not that into it anymore. In a few months I probably will be again. I go through phases with Batman.

 

[Nathan]

They were incomprehensible so I dunno what you want that for.

Because it's the only thing worth watching. The rest is nothing but utter nonsense.

 

[Brother Jack]

This movie was utter garbage. Possibly the worst big budget blockbuster ever made.