Troy "Director's Cut"

[LostSon88]

I don't see how a DC edition would elevate this movie too much, however.

Well they say that adding 30 minutes to the film PLUS using the original musical score in the DC (as opposed to the theatrical score) really makes it feel like an entirely different movie...

I actually like the theatrical cut and will probably get around to the DC sooner or later...

 

[Venomfan]

the DC adds so many disgustingly brutal scenes, like

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raping women and throwing babies against walls during the sacking of Troy

 

[Movies205]

I wish Hollywood would make a movie based on The Iliad someday. Troy, despite taken alot from The Iliad, has little resemblance to Homer's masterpiece. Hollywood has to realize that putting Olympic gods into a movie will not turn away moviegoers, just as superheroes dressed in spandex.

The problem with the Gods is the fact that they are merely like humans just with godlike powers, they all act selfishly and for their own gains, even playing tricks on one each other. It'd be very hard for it to come across well on the screen.

 

[블라스]

I can't believe we actually get Diane Kruger nipplage

 

[Arc-Light]

This movie would have been a success with-out the casting of Pitt and Bloom.

 

[Raiden]

I can't believe we actually get Diane Kruger nipplage

Is that in the DC cut of Troy?

 

[Raiden]

The problem with the Gods is the fact that they are merely like humans just with godlike powers, they all act selfishly and for their own gains, even playing tricks on one each other. It'd be very hard for it to come across well on the screen.

I'm a huge fan of Greek mythology, and what's appealing to me is their very humanlike emotions and their prone to jealousy and errors. I think it actually will make them more relateable to the audience, because they are like soap opera with their backstabbing and petty arguments amongst themselves.

 

[LostSon88]

Yes.

Its actaully in her scene with Paris in the bedroom in the beginning of the movie.

In the Directors cut, her boobies are not cropped out like in the Theatrical cut.

 

[블라스]

Is that in the DC cut of Troy?

Yes!
Go buy it now

 

[Rez]

It is certainly better and more fleshed out, but the biggest dissapointment for this release is that the music- though heavily altered- is NOT the original score.. still. As it stands there are a few parts edited in from other movies that work a lot better(Achilles and Patroclus practicing swordplay comes to mind) but there are still plenty of bad moments and even a few new bad ones.

Overall it's a better film, but still has a few flaws and even introduces a few more. For example, they kept the "I AM AJAX" line and the battle scenes, while extended and far more brutal, are clearly not polished and look like something out of an Oliver Stone film.

I'd say the two greatest things about the new edition can be found on Helen's chest, and the boxed set blue packaging is probably the nicest packaging I've seen for a DVD ever. It's improved, but still far from perfect.

For a far better Director's Cut of a similar theatricle cluster****, check out the Kingdom of Heaven DC :-P

 

[M.O.Steel]

I wish Hollywood would make a movie based on The Iliad someday. Troy, despite taken alot from The Iliad, has little resemblance to Homer's masterpiece. Hollywood has to realize that putting Olympic gods into a movie will not turn away moviegoers, just as superheroes dressed in spandex.

while i don't remember him saying that specifically, and while i think i would have liked a more closer adaption to the book, i really like troy. The reason why i liked it without the gods is because there is evidence that agamemnon existed, and troy, and all exist in history. so it was nice to see the battle of troy as a "historic" event instead of a mystical fantasy version.

if you want a more closer adaption to the book, i recommend watching the mini-series HElen of Troy. I really liked it and it follows pretty well (even if there are still some changes)

 

[Asteroid-Man]

I think I might pick this one up.

 

[TheVileOne]

Does Kingdom of Heaven's DC have more Eva Green nudity?

 

[Rando Aces]

i got the directors cut for 10 dollars and i still havent watched it all. i should get on that... but tomorrow i am watching brokeback mountain!

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Did anyone else in the UK have problems with the DVD when they bought this? I have had 2 copies now and both have been faulty.

 

[redhawk23]

most random bump of all time

 

[Matt]

Its fitting being as this may very well be the most double dipped DVD of all time.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I just wanted to ask a question, its not a bump, its a question I need answering.

 

[Bubonic]

I was really surprised by how I enjoyed this cut of the movie, everything flowed together more nicely and the added grit added to the authenticity of the tale.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^It still had the flaws of the theatrical cut though IMO. I still liked Hector 50 times more than I liked Achilles, and essentially, in this movie, the bad guys won, which is not something you want to see often.

 

[Pittman4Two]

Just watched this last night as I bought the Director's Cut after having seen the theatrical cut in theaters.

So epic, so grandiose. The scenery is breathtaking.

Could've done without the multiple shots of Pitt's perfectly sculpted and bronzed bum, butt hey we did get to see Helen's bosom.

The taking of Troy was a little much with the

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baby tossing and the women wall drilling

Always a good one to watch when you're in the mood for an epic.

 

[Visceral]

still get pissed when hector dies.

 

[B1-66ER]

It's ironic that 300 was actually truer to historical viewpoint than a movie supposedly based on an actual mythic work.

My problem with Troy is my problem with a lot of movies that give all the characters modern Western sensibilities. Achilles is some kind of leading man who is monogamous and views women with respect. Read five pages of the Illiad and you'll see how that just won't fly. Ancient figures and characters didn't think like we do, and that's the point. Hopefully we've evolved a little in the last few thousand years. But that doesn't mean I want to see the true history ripped away from ancient heroes. They still need to reflect their times.

So unless the Director's Cut fixes that, not interested.

 

[slumcat]

It's ironic that 300 was actually truer to historical viewpoint than a movie supposedly based on an actual mythic work.

My problem with Troy is my problem with a lot of movies that give all the characters modern Western sensibilities. Achilles is some kind of leading man who is monogamous and views women with respect. Read five pages of the Illiad and you'll see how that just won't fly. Ancient figures and characters didn't think like we do, and that's the point. Hopefully we've evolved a little in the last few thousand years. But that doesn't mean I want to see the true history ripped away from ancient heroes. They still need to reflect their times.

So unless the Director's Cut fixes that, not interested.

As adaptations of Iliad go, Troy is awful. I absolutely love Iliad, it is a coernerstone of Western literature but it was butchered here.

Pitt was very miscast as Achilles and gave his worst performance here. The movie is just a botched attempt in every way.

 

[B1-66ER]

It's funny, but I think adaptations are at their best when they take more liberties, because then you aren't required to reinterpret elements that are there; which almost always fails. You can eliminate them entirely.

For instance, I like to juxtapose Troy with Kingdom of Heaven, which took so many liberties it can barely be considered historical, but I think it was actually pretty true to how politics worked at the time, and as a result the protagonist was someone I much more readily admired.

Plus it was my first look at Eva Green.

There's a parallel between historical and superhero adaptations: Details aren't nearly as important as understanding and believing in the essence of what the characters are about. That's something JJ Abrams and James Cameron still need to learn.