Trump for President?

[DACrowe]

The Republican Party doesn't think that....some think that he is a usurper.

I won't generalize his "thin skin" remarks, if you don't generalize how Republicans believe....

Polls before last Wednesday had it around 45-50% of Republicans believed he was not born in this country. I saw a poll where it increased to 68% who think he MIGHT not have been born here.

I think when I said around half the GOP, I was being fairly accurate.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Kel is not being immature at all, in fact, the very point that you're claiming against her can be applied to our president. "You're the president, act like it, don't sink to Trump's level."

Obama has been walked over so much - it was about time to say something back. And no he didn't sink to Trump's level - Trump was using racist slander against Obama; Obama broke taboo and used tough truth against Trump. He exploited the ridiculousness of Trump's accusations. Any world leader who doesn't take **** from anyone is just a freaking boss in my opinion, including Pierre Trudeau of Canada and Juan Carlos of Spain. Republicans will goad Obama so much, but the odd time that he defends himself everyone goes ape **** saying "WOOOAHHH!!! Easy there! That's just rude especially for the PRESIDENT!!!"

Trump had what was coming to him.

Polls before last Wednesday had it around 45-50% of Republicans believed he was not born in this country. I saw a poll where it increased to 68% who think he MIGHT not have been born here.

I think when I said around half the GOP, I was being fairly accurate.

 

[Raiden]

Obama has been walked over so much - it was about time to say something back. And no he didn't sink to Trump's level - Trump was using racist slander against Obama; Obama broke taboo and used tough truth against Trump. He exploited the ridiculousness of Trump's accusations. Any world leader who doesn't take **** from anyone is just a freaking boss in my opinion, including Pierre Trudeau of Canada and Juan Carlos of Spain. Republicans will goad Obama so much, but the odd time that he defends himself everyone goes ape **** saying "WOOOAHHH!!! Easy there! That's just rude especially for the PRESIDENT!!!"

Trump had what was coming to him.

Yeah, is it more "presidential" if Obama just stand there like a bullseye and let his political enemies take potshots at him without doing something about it? I don't think so.

 

[Anno_Domini]

I'm a Republican, but if I had to choose over re-electing Obama or voting for Trump or Palin...I choose Obama.

 

[DACrowe]

WEEK OF NEWS KNOCKS TRUMP OUT OF SPOTLIGHT...AND POSSIBLY CONTENTION
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54145.html

A very fun read.

 

[SatEL]

 

[Marx]

 

[danoyse]

WEEK OF NEWS KNOCKS TRUMP OUT OF SPOTLIGHT...AND POSSIBLY CONTENTION
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54145.html

A very fun read.

I love this part:

“The events of the last 24 hours slapped America back to adultland,” said GOP consultant Mike Murphy, who has taken a wary view of the Trump boomlet from the beginning. “It’s time for the circus to leave town, and Trump will be on one of the wagons.”

 

[Hobgoblin]

A co-worker of mine and a cousin are both Trump supporters. I cant wait to post this on my facebook page for them to read.

 

[bullets]

Trump didn’t crack a smile. That’s a big error in politics. Not a good choice for a President IMO.

I don't see how he could be considered anything more than a punchline when it comes to running for office.

 

[Kelly]

I'm a Republican, but if I had to choose over re-electing Obama or voting for Trump or Palin...I choose Obama.

Write in....

 

[Midguard777]

Trump is the one Republican that can defeat Obama, Trump forced him to finally Come up with a Birth cert even though he had been hiding it for years. Noone else was able to do that. Trump has a real record of shaking down the Chinese who are right now shaking down the United States and robbing us blind. I think Trump understands more about the economy in his pinky finger than Obama does in his entire being.

TRUMP WILL BE PRESIDENT........you can take it to the bank.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Trump is the one Republican that can defeat Obama, Trump forced him to finally Come up with a Birth cert even though he had been hiding it for years. Noone else was able to do that. Trump has a real record of shaking down the Chinese who are right now shaking down the United States and robbing us blind. I think Trump understands more about the economy in his pinky finger than Obama does in his entire being.

TRUMP WILL BE PRESIDENT........you can take it to the bank.

While President Obama was addressing the nation about the neutralizing of the most notorious terrorist in the world and giving closure to the 9/11 victims, Trump was telling some 'Playmate of the Year' she was fired from his trashy reality-show.

Trump is amateur-hour, a clown with a dead animal on his head who pouts his lips and stares at people with his beady eyes because he thinks it will intimidate them. Well, Obama stared back and completely punked him, from the birth-certificate being released, to the White House correspondents dinner where Trump was roasted, to announcing the killing of Osama Bin Laden while Trump was playing make-believe with a bunch of pampered celebrities and dimwits.

Sorry, noob.

 

[Midguard777]

I congrat Obama for actually following Bushes policies in finally nailing that terriost dog. Had Obama allowed the CIA to do their jobs we might have got him before now, we knew he was hiding in that compound for years, make no mistake about that. Obama and his minons censor the CIA, they investigate our greatest warriors and attempt to prevent them form doing their job. Obama knew if he did not give the kill order this time, then he was never have a chance in 2012, the GOP would have torn him apart.

As for Trump, he will make Obama look stupid on the national stage, he already has and I cant wait for the first debate.

 

[Kelly]

Just watch him try.

Honestly Kel, you're a mod... act like it and stop being so immature. Trump shamed himself - this is undeniable. Obviously if you goad and irritate someone for over a year they will react accordingly. Trump has been saying some racist stuff against him and if you want your petty "video, print, audio" (much like trump demanding a certificate) firstly I have to say:

1. Who are you for me to waste my time catering to?
2. If you really need it, (and ask for it) I'll amuse you.

I have no idea what the hell you are talking about....

I like for people to back up what they are saying when they make generalizations like that....that's all.

Nothing immature about it, its called good debate. Back yourself up, some quotes were given, that is a good thing....I looked it up as well, if you had actually read ALL of my posts instead of being silly.....and I found a lot from the Bush campaign as well....you might want to read up on that as well, interesting stuff.

I love it when people come in here read a couple of posts and think they know ALL that is going on in the discussion....

 

[Kelly]

Here's a few quotes from a Bush quote website I found fast.



He called the (think it was Dem at the time) majority, "teenagers with credit cards". He insulted reporters, a blind one and radio one famously. Went off on Matt Laurer. Most of it tho was just side, sly comments. Like, "If you agree with the opposition you don't support America", or "tell our troops that, our allies that, you don't support America." stuff. Not necessarily all name calling, but hints towards a person. I don't think he was the king of insults, but not everything went thru Rove, and he was definitely not an angel either.

Anyway that's the last of it, this is the Trump thread, not the comedy stylings of Bush one, heh. I'm not saying that it makes Obama better by comparison. However I don't see what light hearted comments during whats become a generally light hearted dinner event are hurting considering so many more serious, and mean comments have been slung around by recent presidents at conferences.

Interesting stuff, but I think what I posted as sources to what we were talking about, show his campaign as much more "devious" I guess....

I am not saying at all that there was not dirty campaigning....there was...VERY DIRTY, but Bush was able to stand above it, I think, and again....simply my opinion......but I don't think that Obama is doing himself any favors, I think he needs to go back to his first campaign strategy, and let OTHERS take the pot shots....so to speak, that way he stays much cleaner....that was pretty much my point.

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

I congrat Obama for actually following Bushes policies in finally nailing that terriost dog.

That's weird. I thought this was Bush's Bin Laden policy -

"Who knows if he’s hiding in some cave or not. We haven’t heard from him in a long time. The idea of focusing on one person really indicates to me people don’t understand the scope of the mission. Terror is bigger than one person. He’s just a person who’s been marginalized. … I don’t know where he is. I really just don’t spend that much time on him, to be honest with you."

Hmm.
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[Kelly]

I don't know that that was the actual policy, but that was certainly a stupid comment to make....

And I do think that taking the intel from the Bush administration, and focusing more on bin laden DEFINITELY led to Sunday, which is why Obama should be given a good majority of credit as far as the Presidential decision-making, along with Bush setting the ball rolling.....but neither of them deserve any where near as much of the credit as our military...

 

[DACrowe]

I congrat Obama for actually following Bushes policies in finally nailing that terriost dog. Had Obama allowed the CIA to do their jobs we might have got him before now, we knew he was hiding in that compound for years, make no mistake about that. Obama and his minons censor the CIA, they investigate our greatest warriors and attempt to prevent them form doing their job. Obama knew if he did not give the kill order this time, then he was never have a chance in 2012, the GOP would have torn him apart.

As for Trump, he will make Obama look stupid on the national stage, he already has and I cant wait for the first debate.

What policies are you talking about? Bush minimized the importance of bin Laden after Rumsfeld didn't send in US troops to Tora Bora because he was focused on invading Iraq and killing Saddam Hussein over WMDs. Obama had Panetta refocus efforts on bin Laden in 2009.

Oh you mean torture, don't you? Considering we got that info at Gitmo in 2007 and Bush himself ended the torture program in 2005, I think you're still confused.

P.S. Trump embarrassed Obama on the national stage? The viral sensation right now is Trump getting roasted by a smiling president as the whole of Washington laughed in his face. The next day Obama announced we got Enemy No. 1 when he interrupted Trump's trashy celebrity reality show.

Trump humiliate Obama? He left the spotlight last week with his tail between his legs as his unpopular ratings shot up to 64% of the American public.

 

[redfirebird2008]

I don't know that that was the actual policy, but that was certainly a stupid comment to make....

And I do think that taking the intel from the Bush administration, and focusing more on bin laden DEFINITELY led to Sunday, which is why Obama should be given a good majority of credit as far as the Presidential decision-making, along with Bush setting the ball rolling.....but neither of them deserve any where near as much of the credit as our military...

I fully agree with this, but it reminds me of sports. When the players succeed, they get most of the credit. But if they fail, the coach gets ALL of the blame and ends up getting fired for a losing record. A good example is the military's failure with the Iran hostage thing. Carter got ALL of the blame for it, but technically it was a military failure. No one wants to blame the military for such a failure, so the POTUS gets all of the blame.

 

[Belvedere]

I congrat Obama for actually following Bushes policies in finally nailing that terriost dog. Had Obama allowed the CIA to do their jobs we might have got him before now, we knew he was hiding in that compound for years, make no mistake about that. Obama and his minons censor the CIA, they investigate our greatest warriors and attempt to prevent them form doing their job. Obama knew if he did not give the kill order this time, then he was never have a chance in 2012, the GOP would have torn him apart.

As for Trump, he will make Obama look stupid on the national stage, he already has and I cant wait for the first debate.

All Trump has done so far is make himself look stupid on the international stage.

 

[Kelly]

I fully agree with this, but it reminds me of sports. When the players succeed, they get most of the credit. But if they fail, the coach gets ALL of the blame and ends up getting fired for a losing record. A good example is the military's failure with the Iran hostage thing. Carter got ALL of the blame for it, but technically it was a military failure. No one wants to blame the military for such a failure, so the POTUS gets all of the blame.

Well, I believe the buck does stop withthe President, but that is a very good example of how that blame is sometimes in the wrong place. Kind of like Bush with Katrina...the majority of the blame should go to the governor of Louisiana at the time, she totally dropped the ball....as well as the massive amount of corruption in the government of New Orleans, but as the buck stops with the President, I totally understand why Bush got the lionshare of the blame.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Well, I believe the buck does stop withthe President, but that is a very good example of how that blame is sometimes in the wrong place. Kind of like Bush with Katrina...the majority of the blame should go to the governor of Louisiana at the time, she totally dropped the ball....as well as the massive amount of corruption in the government of New Orleans, but as the buck stops with the President, I totally understand why Bush got the lionshare of the blame.

That's another very good example of it.

 

[Kelly]

The difference is, even this close to the event, many are beginning to understand what actually happened with Katrina......Carter still gets no love....

 

[DACrowe]

I will agree that Bush isn't deserving of all the blame of the response to Katrina. It spreads pretty equally across the local, state and federal level with the governor being the worst as she had to call the national guard. Carter though....eh. It was a military operation he signed off on as a last resort of desperation. It was the military's fault they didn't factor in sand storms, but Carter should never have allowed it to get to that point (his government granting asylum to Iran's ousted leader was like lighting a match).

Another murky example is Bay of Pigs. The entire plan was overseen by the Eisenhower Administration and the Pentagon just pressured the newly-sworn in president to sign off on it without thinking. It was entirely the CIA and Pentagon's plan where they got just about every single angle wrong (Castro wouldn't know they were coming, the Cuban people would side with the rebels before there would be a firefight and they chose a full moon night to sneak into Cuba), but Kennedy's Administration should have vetted that and that colossal failure was one that he okayed without really understanding what he was doing. Fortunately, Kennedy learned from that in a major way. The night of the disaster he prevented the US from getting entangled in a war with Cuba (which would include nation building) and possibly the Soviets by not sending in US planes, and he was able to stand up to the Joint Chiefs during the Cuban Missile Crisis and prevent WWIII a little over a year later.

I think Bay of Pigs and Desert One are the preeminent "what not to do's" of this sort of thing. Albeit, the CMC allowed Kennedy to have one of the finest moments of diplomacy over war moments in world history. Bush's presidency s more based on the two wars he led for seven years that singular special ops missions. Of course I would argue Iraq is a case study in "what not to do," as well.