Two Face's Origin

[Malone]

Is "The Long Halloween" accepted as Two Face's origin, I mean, in terms of continuity? Are there any other origin stories for Two Face and, also, when was his first appearence? Thanks in advance.:bat:

 

[The Joker]

You should just ask all your questions in one thread, dude. Also, if you ever need to know stuff like this, try Wikipedia first: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-Face

And yes, The Long Halloween is accepted as Two Face's origin in continuity.

 

[Agentsands77]

Well, his first appearance was in Detective Comics #66, which tells his origin. In that, the character's name was originally Harvey Kent (later changed to Harvey Dent because of associations with Clark Kent).

One of my favorite origin stories is "The Eye of the Beholder," which was a major influence for THE LONG HALLOWEEN and, in some senses, is a little better. It's more Dent-central, and goes into his relationship with his father more. I especially love the haunting end of this take on his origin - his face is restored, things are looking up, and then, with his bare hands, he scars himself again as insanity reclaims it's hold on him.

Both "The Eye of the Beholder" and Detective Comics #66 are collected in the volume BATMAN: FEATURING TWO-FACE AND THE RIDDLER.

 

[Bat-Hombre]

And yes, The Long Halloween is accepted as Two Face's origin in continuity.

No. Many fans accept this, but TLH is not really in continuity. Batman Annual #14 is the most "canon" one.

 

[Joker]

actually with Hush and Infinite Crisis, TLH was brought into mainstream continuity

 

[Superman: Idols]

The Joker is right. TLH has been mentioned in too many comics to be considered non-canon.

 

[Lorendiac]

The Joker is right. TLH has been mentioned in too many comics to be considered non-canon.

It has been? I remember Harvey Dent, in a scene in the middle of "Hush," telling Joker something like this: "You once came into my home and beat me up in front of my wife," or words to that effect. That was Jeph Loeb dropping in a quick reference to a scene from his own work on TLH, of course. (It stands to reason that Loeb is going to treat his own previous work as being "in continuity" regardless of how anybody else feels about it! If I were in his shoes, I'd probably do the same thing! )

But what are the other bits, in other comics, that have specifically acknowledged events from TLH? Either I haven't seen them or else they've just slipped my mind. (Perfectly possible -- my memory is far from photographic!)

 

[Bat-Hombre]

The Catwoman in "Hush" was basically the Selina Kyle from TLH/DV. But not the one who was around in the DC mainstream universe. Jeph Loeb himself said years ago that TLH was not in continuity. So he could ignore things like Selina Kyle has never met Bruce Wayne until Knigthfall, Two-Face existed before Scarecrow (Harvey Dent murdered even before he was scarred if i remember correctly) and Flass was at the wedding of Sarah Essen & Gordon. These events were published only a few years before.

 

[CConn]

It may have been out of continuity at the time Loeb wrote it and/or made those comments, but like Joker said, with Hush and Infinite Crisis, it's now in.

 

[Orko Is King]

Timothy Dalton?

 

[Cobblepot]

Neal Adams on a bad day.

 

[Agentsands77]

I've honestly always seen a bit of Arnold in that picture. Anyway, it's a great issue.

 

[RobC]

Yeah TLH is pretty much standard for his arrival in the BatUniverse, but TAS changed it so you know... I prefer TLH's take on it though.