Age of Ultron Ultron! We Would Have Words With Thee! Official Thor/Chris Hemworth Thread

[HKpowerup]

Don’t underestimate what Kurse did to Thor in those few mins. Swatting Mjolnir away like it was a minor annoyance already puts him in a league above Hulk.

Anyway, objectively speaking, Thor and Hulk are equals in the MCU. The former has diverse powers & can fly, whereas the latter has far more strength and durability, it kind of evens it out.

But Thor will probably get a HUGE buff in the third movie, where he’ll probably battle Surtur.

 

[HKpowerup]

I think Kurse is definately stronger than Hulk in the comics,Thor showed great durability against him.

Don't know about the comics, but in the little we saw of him in TDW, he's undoubtedly the most powerful character in the MCU, after Odin & Thanos.

 

[warriorking]

Kurse is far more powerful than Hulk as well as Thor...He was somewhat wasted I thought in TDW...
They should have extended the battle between Thor and Kurse but the idea that Hulk would defeat Kurse is wishful thinking...
In the comics Kurse was in a class all by himself...

 

[BoredGuy]

Yeah, Kurse was a definite badass in terms of what he did

But the way it was filmed lacked impact, and on top of the battle being short, it seemed like a pretty tough strong guy was beatin up on thor.. he threw one big rock that gave you a little idea of his strength but they didn't make it apparent enough... even things like the sound mix and adding more of a thud to add more weight to his steps and punches would help considerably

they need to show how these guys move friggin mountains, figuratively and literally, to win a battle

 

[jaqua99]

Agreed. Thor definitely isn't top dog of the Avengers. There's no one on the team right now that comes even close to matching the raw power of the Hulk.

Hulk wouldn't have took the beating Thor did against Kurse, he would've handed him his own ass on a silver platter.

I'm not downing Thor or anything so I don't want anyone to get that impression, he just isn't top dog. Extremely powerful? Yes. The most powerful Avenger? Definitely not.

Thor brawled with Hulk, while holding back, while not swinging his hammer, and didn't use any of his powers.

Thor, leveled what seemed to be a city size landscaped in Jotenheim, and even the produces said that attack of his was suppose to be equivalent to a thermonuclear blast.

Hulk has not displayed that type of power

Thor 1 shot two flying dragons in one burst of lightning.

Hulk was pushed to his threshold by the chituari, after he was bombarded by their lasers. The next time we see Hulk, 5 minutes later, he's JUST getting up from that.

Thor battled through that whole battle.

Thor threw his hammer at Hulk, Hulk grabbed it, and his strength was NOT enough to overcome the trajectory of Mjlonir. Kurse swatted it away.

Hulk has had more "wow" moments, but in terms of overall power, if we are looking at actual feats..Thor has the most powerful feats.

This. It's quite obvious.


Hmmm, not quite. He may start stronger than the Hulk, but once Hulk get angrier, he'll surpass him.

See above.

Yes, Hulk can get angrier and stronger but MCU Kurse would KO hulk before he gets strong enough. Both of your names have "Hulk" in it, and you two are the only ones who think Hulk > Kurse..I'm guessing you must be Hulk fans

But anyway, you'll probably counter, so to spare you the time, let's just agree to disagree. We're getting awesome movies and that's what matters right now.

Yeah, Kurse was a definite badass in terms of what he did

But the way it was filmed lacked impact, and on top of the battle being short, it seemed like a pretty tough strong guy was beatin up on thor.. he threw one big rock that gave you a little idea of his strength but they didn't make it apparent enough... even things like the sound mix and adding more of a thud to add more weight to his steps and punches would help considerably

they need to show how these guys move friggin mountains, figuratively and literally, to win a battle

Seriously. They can't be afraid to hold back, if it's an empty environment, please go crazy with collateral!

 

[jaqua99]

[YT]3iAy-wOkZbk[/YT]

For the Thor fans, all of Thor's MCU combat feats. 0:32. look how far away he smacks that frost giant..when have we seen Thor hit ANYONE like that since?

 

[TeeKay]

[YT]3iAy-wOkZbk[/YT]

For the Thor fans, all of Thor's MCU combat feats. 0:32. look how far away he smacks that frost giant..when have we seen Thor hit ANYONE like that since?

Yep from that video alone. Thor is a badass. I'd love to see him fight Ultrons drones the way he fought the frost giants. But yeah, I think my only real gripe with how they've portrayed Thor is his flight. I think we need to see him fly a but more.

 

[First Avenger]

Thor rocks.

 

[LowlifeZar]

The feats shown in the video prove, IMO, that the only one who knew what to do with Thor was Kenneth Branagh. Joss Whedon is close second with TA feats but I feel that Ken really captured Thors godliness. I hope Joss stepped it up a notch and show what a living "god" is capable of among mortals. Im kind of getting bored with Thors "I've matured" attitude lol And I hope he flies a lot in this film. Fighting Vision or Ultron should require him to.

 

[TeeKay]

Yeah I feel like Thor stays on the ground too much. Granted, he needs Mljonir for flight and can't really hover unless he's spinning the hammer. But I wanna see a cool flight scene and mid-air battle. Him and Malekith free falling whilst fight was pretty cool and a step in the right direction IMO.

 

[Quasimod0]

Man I had forgotten how cool the first giant fight was! The first Thor movie had some good action!
And seeing those bits of the Avengers action scenes reminded me that this next movie is gonna be great. Even if the action is on the same level as the first.

 

[giveyourself12%]

Thor threw his hammer at Hulk, Hulk grabbed it, and his strength was NOT enough to overcome the trajectory of Mjlonir. Kurse swatted it away.

Well, Hulk continued along the hammer's trajectory because no one except those who are worthy may move the hammer in any way. Kurse, therefore, is obviously worthy yet decided to reject the power of Asgard for philosophical reasons.

Had he grabbed the hammer and claimed the mantle of power, the day would have turned out much differently, my friends. Oh yes.

Which is exactly what I feel were his last thoughts before being crushed in the miniature portal/black hole.

"Why didn't I just grab the hammer and work out the political and philosophical implications of one day ruling Asgard laterrrrAAAARGHHHHHH?!!!!?!!!"

 

[The Caped Knight]

 

[Vartha]

Thor AoU stuff so far. Seeing as THIS area got JACK in TDW stuff I was happy to get these

 

[LowlifeZar]

Mjolnir looks quite Tesseract-y in that pic

 

[Vartha]

Yeah kind of difficult to relay a glow from lightning like that

 

[mc7791]

one issue I have with TDW is I think Selvig teleporting away Malekiths ship before it falls on Thor. Thors durability should be strong enough to withstand that.

 

[jaqua99]

Well, Hulk continued along the hammer's trajectory because no one except those who are worthy may move the hammer in any way. Kurse, therefore, is obviously worthy yet decided to reject the power of Asgard for philosophical reasons.

Had he grabbed the hammer and claimed the mantle of power, the day would have turned out much differently, my friends. Oh yes.

Which is exactly what I feel were his last thoughts before being crushed in the miniature portal/black hole.

"Why didn't I just grab the hammer and work out the political and philosophical implications of one day ruling Asgard laterrrrAAAARGHHHHHH?!!!!?!!!"

Wait, you ARE joking right? haha I can't tell

 

[First Avenger]

one issue I have with TDW is I think Selvig teleporting away Malekiths ship before it falls on Thor. Thors durability should be strong enough to withstand that.

Selvig was mostly saving Jane who was above Thor.

 

[giveyourself12%]

Wait, you ARE joking right? haha I can't tell

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But what if he WAS?!

Edited to add: Didn't the hammer just kind of bounce off him...he didn't really bat it away, did he?


I guess he's not so much worthy as durable.


Oh well, there goes my "Kurse - Reluctant Protector of Asgard and the Nine Realms" alternate universe.

 

[CoherentChaos]

I interpret Mjolnir's trajectory to be alterable while in flight by a strong enough force. That's not the same as wielding it however.

In fact, I'm not sure Kurse's feat of batting it away alone (as in, by itself is indisputable proof) places him leagues above Hulk. Thor's toss at Hulk seems like it should have hit Hulk and sent him flying as Mjolnir keeps forward momentum. But instead Hulk caught it, which forced it to fall to the ground as to avoid being "wielded".

So like, big whoop. Kurse batted it away. Hulk caught it. I'd say that makes them about equal. At least until you consider Kurse's other feats, such as showing no ill effects to being impaled by an Asgardian(?) sword, resisting the singularity grenade as long as he did (sure, he lost, but damn, he made it work for it), throwing that huge rock (though I feel as though we'll inevitably get a similar feat from Hulk, or that we should), and smashing that generator thing which blew up the entire room as it seems, while he just stood and took it point blank.

So yes, I'm saying Kurse>Hulk, despite being a huge Hulk fan, but I'm tired of the 'swatting Mjolnir' argument being the catch all while it's actually quite moot. Argue Kurse's real feats dammit. :/

Also, Thor got his ass beat by both, which is justifiable for Hulk, since he was holding back, but I have no idea why he tried to slug it out with Kurse. He should have been going all out against Kurse. What gives Thor? Step up your game man.

 

[jaqua99]

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But what if he WAS?!

Edited to add: Didn't the hammer just kind of bounce off him...he didn't really bat it away, did he?


I guess he's not so much worthy as durable.


Oh well, there goes my "Kurse - Reluctant Protector of Asgard and the Nine Realms" alternate universe.

haha we can imagine. And yeah he pretty much swatted it away. Insanely durable. Hulk felt Thor's punches and Hulk's pretty tough, Kurse literally didn't flinch. Hell Iron man's punches affected Thor more than Thor's affected Kurse.

 

[jaqua99]

I interpret Mjolnir's trajectory to be alterable while in flight by a strong enough force. That's not the same as wielding it however.

In fact, I'm not sure Kurse's feat of batting it away alone (as in, by itself is indisputable proof) places him leagues above Hulk. Thor's toss at Hulk seems like it should have hit Hulk and sent him flying as Mjolnir keeps forward momentum. But instead Hulk caught it, which forced it to fall to the ground as to avoid being "wielded".

So like, big whoop. Kurse batted it away. Hulk caught it. I'd say that makes them about equal. At least until you consider Kurse's other feats, such as showing no ill effects to being impaled by an Asgardian(?) sword, resisting the singularity grenade as long as he did (sure, he lost, but damn, he made it work for it), throwing that huge rock (though I feel as though we'll inevitably get a similar feat from Hulk, or that we should), and smashing that generator thing which blew up the entire room as it seems, while he just stood and took it point blank.

So yes, I'm saying Kurse>Hulk, despite being a huge Hulk fan, but I'm tired of the 'swatting Mjolnir' argument being the catch all while it's actually quite moot. Argue Kurse's real feats dammit. :/

Also, Thor got his ass beat by both, which is justifiable for Hulk, since he was holding back, but I have no idea why he tried to slug it out with Kurse. He should have been going all out against Kurse. What gives Thor? Step up your game man.

Thor did not get his ass beat by Hulk. [YT]advsN-DfY2k[/YT]

In fact, before they landed in that room, it kinda was the other way around.

Hulk landed ONE blow before they leaped into that tiny room, to which Hulk then thew Thor twice. A punch and two tosses.

Thor had complete control of that fight until they got to that room that basically was as tall as Hulk was.

Thor showed more skill, landed more blows, and neither was in worse condition than the other when the fight got interrupted. Given the environment and situation, at the end it was Hulk's fight to loose, but when they were fighting in the hanger, Thor was making a fool of Hulk

 

[Mjölnir]

Yeah, Thor was winning handily until he grappled with Hulk, which is something we haven't seen Thor do at any other time so could be a other sign that he's trying to contain the raging Hulk rather than fight him for real.

 

[Herolee10]

My only regret is that the fight between Hulk and Thor couldn't be given the same level of treatment as the one between Hulk and the Hulkbuster (better settings, better staging, better cinematography, and more room for stronger attacks).