Comics Upcoming developments in ASM

[moraldeficiency]

Just some stuff that's out there about the future:

Anti-Venom
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20196484,00.html
There comes a time when even a storied supervillain needs a do-over, and that moment has arrived for Spider-Man arch-nemesis Venom. Well, sorta. The extraterrestrial symbiote — which most famously glommed onto embittered Spider-friend Eddie Brock — is classically depicted as a onyx-colored, cuspated shape-shifter. But Marvel decided the dude needed to lighten up, so they created an additional symbiote as a visual foil to their old standby: Here's your first glimpse at the new, angelically hued...Anti-Venom.

What the heck's an Anti-Venom? We'll find out when The Amazing Spider-Man No. 568 — the first of a pivotal six-issue arc called ''New Ways to Die,'' written by Dan Slott (Avengers: The Initiative) and illustrated by John Romita Jr. (Daredevil: The Man Without Fear) — hits stores in August.

There are still more changes afoot in the Spidey-verse. Take a gander at EW.com's other exclusive first look — a collage teasing revealing ''scenes'' (also drawn by the esteemed Romita Jr.) from additional Amazing Spider-Man issues, these hitting stores starting in June. Frenemy Eddie Brock, possibly still cancer-ridden, is back, as is Norman Osborn, better known as mad-genius nemesis the Green Goblin. Meanwhile, on the home front, Mary Jane Watson is in the house, so to speak. You may recall that she split from her Spidey sweetheart in a confused Faustian bid with Mephisto — the couple's memory erased! — to save sweet Aunt May's life in last year's ''One More Day'' storyline. A tangled web? We'll say! — Nisha Gopalan

Wacker's cryptic comments
http://www.marvel.com/blogs/Spider-Office/
Big Spidey news tomorrow on the web.

Set your clocks now and let us know your thoughts.

SW


I wonder if Wacker was talking about the anti-venom thing or if something else is up?

I'll say this, if slott is actually taking the symbiote's character into account and letting them be somewhat independent in thought like venom originally was then I'm all for it.

 

[Blader5489]

Holy crap, that looks amazing.

 

[moraldeficiency]

That art is pretty, I'll say that. I saw kraven's grave in a pic too and it got me thinking it might be a symbiote bonded to kraven's corpse.

I know this is going to get a lot of symbiote hate but if I was reading ASM I would totally give slott a chance with the symbiote angle. If written correctly it could be a pretty good concept. And by written correctly I mean give the symbiote an actual personality and motivation other than obeying it's host (which any symbiote could just eat and absorb like the original ones did).

 

[Galactus]

Anti-Venom? And so the House of Recycled Ideas strikes again....

Without having read any of this so called "Brand New Day" (we are about six months after in Sweden) it just looks to me that Spider-Man is getting more and more pathetic.

 

[Blader5489]

Anti-Venom? And so the House of Recycled Ideas strikes again....

Without having read any of this so called "Brand New Day" (we are about six months after in Sweden) it just looks to me that Spider-Man is getting more and more pathetic.

I can't tell you're not reading the comics, because this "Anti-Venom" is actually a very logical evolution for Eddie Brock. It wouldn't make sense for him to go back to being Venom after all that he has been through.

 

[Finlandman]

I hate symbiotes!

I can't even count all the Venom's/Venom rip-offs with my two hands! Venom's horrible character in first place. Easily the most over-rated character with Wolverine.

 

[WolfCypher]

Oh, great! A Bizarro-Venom! And all we need is a Bizarro-Spider-Man to go along with it! So Marvel gives us negative effects with Mr. Flipping Negative and now they have the brilliant idea to reverse Venom's colors and give us this crap...

...Never before did I want Gargan to STAY Venom just to relieve us of this!

P.S. This isn't ranting coming from a Venom fanatic. Really. I just feel that NOTHING, Venom related or otherwise, good has come from BND yet, and instead of bringing back Doc Ock, Sandman, Chameleon, coughEddieBrockcough...'cuse me, Chameleon, Vulture, we get crap new villains the Freak, Mr. Negative, that other loser villain, and now this Anti-Venom, which is silly when you remember that Venom is the Anti-Spider-Man.

 

[spider greg]

Anti-Venom? And so the House of Recycled Ideas strikes again....

And so does the House of recycled posts.

Now, where was I?
Oh yea...............t:
I've never been a big Venom fan, especially from his overuse in the 90s. But the Sensational storyline that was done before OMD, with a cancer ridden Eddie Brock was some really good stuff. If they keep along those lines, in addition to JR JR's fantastic looking artwork we're gonna get some good stuff. I believe we are now cooking with the proverbial gas.

I think there should be law passed that JR JR be the sole artist on Spidey.t:
(This is a joke for all the literalists in the audience)

 

[shinlyle]

I've been letting this stew for a bit, but here goes:

This is kind of stupid. I mean, yeah, the image looks cool, simply because JRJR drew it, but it REALLY seems like a lame idea. Anti-Venom? Hopefully, that isn't the name of the character. Also, ANOTHER symbiote?! Venom....cool. Carnage...okay at first, then became stupid. Toxin...lame. All the other symbiotes....super-lame. Another symbiote who is anti-symbiote....?

Come on.

The only plus I'll give it is this: Dan Slott is working this, so there could be some entertaining prospects to it. Also, JRJR is drawing it. It could always be good.

Good or bad, it's unlikely I will read it, as I quit reading BND awhile back (NEVER BOUGHT!!).

I wonder how they'll manage to explain away Norman and Eddie and the Symbiote magically having no knowledge about Peter being Spidey?

Here come the Amazing Plot-Holes!!

 

[shinlyle]

P.S. This isn't ranting coming from a Venom fanatic. Really. I just feel that NOTHING, Venom related or otherwise, good has come from BND yet, and instead of bringing back Doc Ock, Sandman, Chameleon, coughEddieBrockcough...'cuse me, Chameleon, Vulture, we get crap new villains the Freak, Mr. Negative, that other loser villain, and now this Anti-Venom, which is silly when you remember that Venom is the Anti-Spider-Man.

Would that make this guy another Spider-Man? If Venom is the anti-Spidey, and this guy in Anti-Venom who is anti Spidey, then that makes him anti-anti-Spidey.....I've just gone cross-eyed.

 

[WolfCypher]

Would that make this guy another Spider-Man? If Venom is the anti-Spidey, and this guy in Anti-Venom who is anti Spidey, then that makes him anti-anti-Spidey.....I've just gone cross-eyed.

Like you said, "here comes the amazing plot-holes." So me confusing you is nothing compared to ASM. that is, if you read ASM.

 

[WolfCypher]

Huh...anyone notice in the 1st post Eddie is described as an "embittered Spider-friend"?

 

[Blader5489]

Oh, great! A Bizarro-Venom! And all we need is a Bizarro-Spider-Man to go along with it! So Marvel gives us negative effects with Mr. Flipping Negative and now they have the brilliant idea to reverse Venom's colors and give us this crap...

It didn't occur to you that maybe Mr. Negative is responsible for Anti-Venom?

 

[moraldeficiency]

It didn't occur to you that maybe Mr. Negative is responsible for Anti-Venom?

I really hope that's not true, if Mr. N just goes around making people bizarro versions that will get old quick. Personally I just hope that since the symbiote children of venom were the first born out of actual emotion at least one of them will show it.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Holy crap!!! It looks and sounds so cool!

I'm being very optimistic about this though, so it can defenitley go either way.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Not sure what to think yet. Have to wait and read it, i guess....it certainly LOOKS good...

 

[Themanofbat]

I have faith in Dan the Man Slott...

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I have faith in Dan the Man Slott...

Agreed, he's a great writer, so I really have my hopes up.

 

[spider greg]

....it certainly LOOKS good...

Ha Ha, I'm laughing!

 

[Dangerous]

Sounds and looks TOTALLY LAME.
Anti-Venom- wtf? that would be Spider-Man, since Venom was originally supposed to be a morally inverted version of Spidey.

..and yeah, as noted when they start bringing in characters such as Norman and Brock- how exactly are they going to explain what, or how much of the webslinger they remember. What a mess.

So glad I am just reading this book in the store and not wasting any money on it. The initial Slott /McNiven arc was good if nothing spectacular, and there have been some cool looking new villains introduced thus far, but some of the BND arcs have felt incomplete and strangely soulless. See the Menace issues.

Harry being alive, unnecessary and also very lame.

 

[WolfCypher]

Speaking of Norman coming back...WTH happened to this Spider-Man/Thunderbolts story we were told about? Another aborted idea or is it still on?

 

[spider greg]

Speaking of Norman coming back...WTH happened to this Spider-Man/Thunderbolts story we were told about? Another aborted idea or is it still on?

Correct me if I'm wrong. But, isn't this the one?

 

[WolfCypher]

Huh. I thought the SM/TB story was going to be a miniseries and not take place in ASM. I dunno...

 

[izzyspider]

well spiderman is fighting the tb in the upcoming avengers/invaders mini

 

[Rambo, John J]

Anti-venin anyone? No?

Dang....