V for Vendetta or Batman Begins.

Fenrir said:
Norse Mythology and a videogame called Xenogears.

I knew I heard that name somewhere before!

Fenrir was my favorite gear. His sword movements were gangster
 
I watched V for vendetta last night and the scene where finch obtained the doctors red notebook. there is a flashback of when the doctor is talking emplying that finch was reading it and there she said that the man in room five did'nt remember anything about his life before his time there.

It makes me think that maybe the injections they were giving the prisoners made them lose some of their memory from the early days of their lives.

"I was born in Nottingham in 1985 I dont remember much about those days but I do remember the rain." -- Valerie (Who cant remeber things from back to age of 7?)

So it is possible he was gay. Or muslim. or a terrorist. or all three
 
That's because you're awesome, Flexo. That's because you're awesome.

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CConn said:
That's because you're awesome, Flexo. That's because you're awesome.

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Truly, that's all you need. Although a little Bruce Willis never hurts.
 
I know I'm gonna get herrassed for this but here goes. I'm a long time hardcore Batman fan. Even before Michael Keaton I was a hardcore fan. Batman Begins was the closest on screen interpretation to how I view Batman. Yes characters were f-ed with [ Wilkenson shaould have been Loeb . . . Christopher Walken should have been Falconi] Murphy was a very good Crane but I miss the suit and the hat. As much as I liked the swarm of bats scene in the cave I would have rather seen Miller's version of his choice of symbol. . . or at least heard him say " Father, I shall become a Bat". Bale's portrayal of both Wayne and Bats is everything I could have hoped for. And FINALLY we had the Gordan / Batman relationship and the vanishing Batman trick w00t.
But I must say I enjoyed V as a movie so much more.
 
I hated how they virtually changed the entire message and undertones of V for Vendetta. The comic itself is so much more layered than the movie which was turned into a political rally against George Bush.
 
I thought most of the changes were pretty good, in light of what's happening now politically. But I was about to yell, "BLASPHEMY!!" when they made Evey and V attracted to each other romantically. Despite being a chick, I hate chick flicks with every bone in my body, and there wasn't a use for the forced romance at all. V is like Evey's father, and...I dunno, it was just creepy. I love Phantom of the Opera, but V isn't lonely just because he's ugly, he's lonely because he's on a serious mission, and he will use anything and anyone to make sure it succeeds (yes, even manipulating Evey to a point).

Oh, and not to mention I was seriously miffed that they changed Finch's revelation at Larkhill.
In the book, he realizes that the power to throw off oppression lies within every individual, and in the movie he goes on this "We are all connected" schpiel that I was scratching my head over.
It had no POINT, and that moment in the book was one of the most powerful messages that I took from the novel itself.

ETA: Oh, and of course that means I prefer Batman Begins. V had its really good moments, but those two things prevent me from loving it completely.
 
hippie_hunter said:
No, V wasn't a homosexual in the movie, because in the movie he fell in love with Evey.

I liked V for Vendetta, I got it on DVD. It was awesome. But I have to agree with Alan Moore. The movie should have been a movie about anarchism and facsism, not right vs. left. The movie should have kept the books original intentions: a commentary about Thatcher's Britain not a commentary about Bush's America. In my opinion, Warner Bros. and the Wachoski Bros should have treated it like Sin City, a near perfect adaptation that would have made Alan Moore happy.

Batman Begins was just plain bad ass. Unlike V for Vendetta, you can't really make a near word for word adaptation like Sin City because there are just so many Batman stories. Batman Begins shows you how to make a Batman movie, unlike its predecessors.

I completely agree. Not once did V even say the word "anarchy" which is his whole theme in the book. They changed a whole lot of stuff around.

Btw, maybe it was just me but I don't remember V slashing everyone's throats in slow motion in the book...

And WTF is a Sutler??????????????? I don't recall him in the book.
 
ShadowBoxing said:
I hated how they virtually changed the entire message and undertones of V for Vendetta. The comic itself is so much more layered than the movie which was turned into a political rally against George Bush.

Exactly. And is there a reason why the aragont Wachowskis had to put "An uncompromising vision of the future from the Wachowski Bros". They did not create V for Vendetta ergo it ain't their vision.
 
It may not be their creation, but it is their vision of Moore's creation.
Besides, what makes you so sure THEY slapped that tagline on there? Sounds more to me like something that WB's advertising gurus would've done. I don't think filmmakers have any control over marketing.
 
Unless their last name ends with Spielberg, Wachowski, Jackson, or Lucas, you're probably right.
 
Chris Wallace said:
It may not be their creation, but it is their vision of Moore's creation.
Besides, what makes you so sure THEY slapped that tagline on there? Sounds more to me like something that WB's advertising gurus would've done. I don't think filmmakers have any control over marketing.
V though is not a character, it's a story. It's important to keep a story intact if you are indeed going to adapt it. If you want a new movie, create one, but don't take a self contained piece of work. Slap five or six of it's characters in it and call it V for Vendetta. Adapt it. I get really sick of these homage or INO comic films.
 
By that rationale, I guess the only good comic book movie is Sin City. Every movie can't take the Sin City route & most of them shouldn't. V, IMO, was one of them.
And I never called V a character, although I disagree w/that statement as well.
 

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