venom vs DR. octopus

[Venomfan]

iv never read anything that seems like Ock knows about Venoms weakness, and i cant think of a reason why he would know. i mean its not like sound or fire is a logical thing to use when you meet the guy unless you know its his weakness. iv decided Venom would outright destroy him though because like he has to spider-man so many times he can sneak his symbiot up on people through floor boards or sand or w/e, that would be the end.

 

[Son_of_W]

Venom has overcome his weaknesses on multiple occasions, so even if Ock was completely decked out in anti-venom gear, Ock is history. Not too mention that Venom can turn his own tendrils into whips and from what I know of Ock he's not one for pain tolerance. I also agree with Venom.Symbiote, Venom was famous as the Lethal Protector for using the symbiote as a way of entering the throat and killing people in any number of ways from stopping the blood stream, choking, or entering the brain. Venom's alot more powerful then spidey and he also tends to be as, or nearly as agile. I've got a pic of him catching spidey's fist. I think getting by ock's arms would be little trouble. Ock is toast, no matter how you spin it.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

In Diane Duane's novel, The Octopus Agenda, Ock beats the living crap out of Venom in an impromptu, straight-up fight.

 

[Venomfan]

In Diane Duane's novel, The Octopus Agenda, Ock beats the living crap out of Venom in an imprompu, straight-up fight.

how did he manage to explain that?

 

[Shockdingo]

Hmm interesting, could you post an exerpt? Im curious as to how he did that.

 

[symbioticspaz]

Wasn't Venom already weakened when that fight happened? I just re-read Venom's Wrath.......I should go back and check out The Octopus Agenda again.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

iv never read anything that seems like Ock knows about Venoms weakness, and i cant think of a reason why he would know. i mean its not like sound or fire is a logical thing to use when you meet the guy unless you know its his weakness. iv decided Venom would outright destroy him though because like he has to spider-man so many times he can sneak his symbiot up on people through floor boards or sand or w/e, that would be the end.

I'm curious as to why you don't think Octavius wouldn't know about Venom's weaknesses?

 

[Venomfan]

i thought only Spider-man knew about it and maybe a couple of other heroes. why on earth would Ock know about it? its not like you fight the guy and all of a sudden know hey this guy is weak to sound and fire. hes not to weak to fire though, i mean he trashed the human torch

 

[Foggy Nelson]

I'd see venom coming out ontop after a hard fight, just because hes seen taking hits from several top-tiers and Ock still has human durability. As soon as he gets close he'll get killed.

I also think Venom may have enough agility to dodge his arms long enough to get a good solid hit in, but Ock may take several victories.

Probably about Venom 7/10

 

[juggster-rules]

im much more of a venom fan than otto of course. but i have to be honest on here and i say otto cause his arms are strong as hell. theres a chance of otto knocking venoms head off in a snap.

 

[Foggy Nelson]

im much more of a venom fan than otto of course. but i have to be honest on here and i say otto cause his arms are strong as hell. theres a chance of otto knocking venoms head off in a snap.

But hits from the juggernaut barely phase him? he's gotten alot stronger since then iirc, I reckon Venom would be able to just about beat him but Ock would put up a good fight and take him some times.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

i thought only Spider-man knew about it and maybe a couple of other heroes. why on earth would Ock know about it? its not like you fight the guy and all of a sudden know hey this guy is weak to sound and fire. hes not to weak to fire though, i mean he trashed the human torch

Ock is the person who's definitely into hearing about other people. That, and he served on the Sinister Six alongside him.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Hmm interesting, could you post an exerpt? Im curious as to how he did that.

Ock basically got hold of him with all four tentacles, and began alternately slamming Venom up and down against the ceiling and floor, until Venom passed out.

Spider-Man had to step in and rescue him.

Brock was so humiliated he slunk away into the night.

 

[juggster-rules]

when did juggernaut fight venom ?

 

[Not Jake]

Yeah, Venom is like Spidey Xtreme, but Venom has weaknesses that Spidey doesn't. Ock wins, because he's, you know, way smarter than Venom.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

venom would win.

 

[Sloth7d]

Each of Ock's arms in a normal circumstance (no customization) exert about 8 tons of force. Venom himself is capable of exerting 11 tons of force, with his strength increasing over the years through training. So on a pure physical level he edges him out. As for whether Ock knows- Octavius is an intelligent man. I have no doubt that he probably knows by now what Venom's Achilles heel is.

Last I checked Venom was in the 40 ton range.
Ock loses easily, unless he gets prep time.

 

[Sloth7d]

otto can lift 10 tons with his arms and there fast as hell also. he can grab venom by the neck easily and snap his neck off

Given the fact that I'm not sure Venoms neck can be permanateley snapped, or if Otto could grab him that easily, and the fact that people alot tougher than Ottos arms have had Venom in head locks plenty of times(Carnage, Spiderman, GhostRider) and Venom has broken free of their hold, I think your scenario is unlikely.

 

[Sloth7d]

Ock basically got hold of him with all four tentacles, and began alternately slamming Venom up and down against the ceiling and floor, until Venom passed out.

Spider-Man had to step in and rescue him.

Brock was so humiliated he slunk away into the night.

Wow, that sounds like close to the worst writing I've ever heard. Venom can go toe to toe with giant robots in license to kill, and take several hits from Carnage, fall 40 feet from the sky into the ground below and survive, is invulnerable to bullets, and take 15 ton hits from Spiderman; and yet a few alabama slams can ko him.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Wow, that sounds like close to the worst writing I've ever heard. Venom can go toe to toe with giant robots in license to kill, and take several hits from Carnage, fall 40 feet from the sky into the ground below and survive, is invulnerable to bullets, and take 15 ton hits from Spiderman; and yet a few alabama slams can ko him.

And yet he got completely owned by The Punisher. Go figure.

Incidentally; Venom's weaknesess are public knopwledge. They've been exploited by several police/government agencies in the past. Heck, even The Punisher knew about it and exploited it when THEY fought, utilizing a sonic cannon.

 

[Sloth7d]

Getting owned by the punisher makes more sense, since he actually used Venoms weakness against him. Thats how the Punisher works. He studies his targets for awhile then he strikes. Sure Otto may win if he used Venoms weaknesses against him, but otherwise....
Oh, and if I recall when the Goverment used Venoms weaknesses against him he still kicked their and Spidermans asses at the same time in Venom Finale. They only beat him because Spiderman threw him off a 20 story building that stunned him long enough to use some serum that seperates the symbiote from Brock.

 

[Eros]

Getting owned by the punisher makes more sense, since he actually used Venoms weakness against him. Thats how the Punisher works. He studies his targets for awhile then he strikes. Sure Otto may win if he used Venoms weaknesses against him, but otherwise....
Oh, and if I recall when the Goverment used Venoms weaknesses against him he still kicked their and Spidermans asses at the same time in Venom Finale. They only beat him because Spiderman threw him off a 20 story building that stunned him long enough to use some serum that seperates the symbiote from Brock.

But if otto fought venom, he would use his weaknesses against him. Ock is an evil genuis afterall, thats what he does best.

 

[juggster-rules]

 

[Sloth7d]

But if otto fought venom, he would use his weaknesses against him. Ock is an evil genuis afterall, thats what he does best.

So, Otto gets prep time for this or something? And even so, even with his weakness theirs no guarantee that he will defeat Venom. Just like others have used kryptonite against Superman and still lost, Venom has beatin others who exploit his weaknesses against him.

 

[Secret_Riddle]

doc ock probly cause 1 of his arms could keep venom at a distance, 1 could block venoms blows, and 2 could kick the crap out of venom...but w/e they should just combine to make symbiote ock...*geekasm*