Fantasy Warner Bros to reboot Willy Wonka

[Silvermoth]

They’re going to be shocked when they find out people can stream movies these days so you don’t have to make yet another chocolate factory movie every time someone wants to watch it

 

[Drizzle]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but young Willy Wonka has a British accent. And then they kind of show he’s trying to distance himself from his father (daddy issues) in every aspect of his life (dentist vs candy maker) which would explain the change of accent.

The kid sounds more American to me but he still doesn't have the accent that Depp does. Side note, that scene was probably the best part of the whole movie between Christopher Lee's delivery of "Llllollipops" and the flags of the world gag.

 

[DarkKnight]

WHYYYY??????

I'm sure some will enjoy it. But I can help but feel this way.....

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

There were some things I liked better in the remake than the original:

1. The set design. The chocolate river actually looks like chocolate this time instead of just brown sewer water.

2. The songs. I know the original songs have a more timeless quality, but I like what they did with setting each song to a popular style of music from different decades in the remake.

3. The kids aside from Charlie. Aside from Veruca, in the original they just kind of blend into the background. Collectively they are given more personality and more to do in the remake. In particular, I thought the new Violet and Mike were much better. New Charlie sucked though (not the fault of the actor, the character was just written to be flat as hell).

That's about all I got.

 

[Monte Cristo]

Adapting the chocolate palace from the book was a great idea. Having squirrels instead of geese and the elevator actually being glass were logical and faithful points of difference. The nostalgic sense of wonder from the original is untouchable, though. Gene Wilder nailed it.

 

[DarkKnight88]

New Charlie sucked though (not the fault of the actor, the character was just written to be flat as hell).

That's true to book Charlie though. He's not supposed to be tempted to steal the secret to Wonka's factory or anything like that. He's just a nice, simple, pure boy which separates him from the rest of the group. He never needed to "prove" his goodness.

 

[TheFuture]

The kid sounds more American to me but he still doesn't have the accent that Depp does. Side note, that scene was probably the best part of the whole movie between Christopher Lee's delivery of "Llllollipops" and the flags of the world gag.

Watching that clip made me so sad.

I haven't watched the Depp film come to think of it, or maybe I've just burned it from my mind.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

That's true to book Charlie though. He's not supposed to be tempted to steal the secret to Wonka's factory or anything like that. He's just a nice, simple, pure boy which separates him from the rest of the group. He never needed to "prove" his goodness.

I don't really care if it is true to the book. It makes him less compelling as a character. All it means is that original movie Charlie was better than book Charlie.

If you want to look at why the original film is far more popular than the Burton version, you can start with two things. Charlie is better in the original and Wonka is MUCH better. There are a few other things (such as the humor is a lot funnier), but the core reason is that the two main characters are stronger.

 

[DarkKnight88]

I don't really care if it is true to the book. It makes him less compelling as a character. All it means is that original movie Charlie was better than book Charlie.

If you want to look at why the original film is far more popular than the Burton version, you can start with two things. Charlie is better in the original and Wonka is MUCH better. There are a few other things (such as the humor is a lot funnier), but the core reason is that the two main characters are stronger.

I agree with Wonka, but I completely disagree about Charlie (or his entire family for that matter). I much prefer 2005 Charlie. Maybe because I read the book first. The 1971 Charlie is even more dull, hell they even renamed the movie to Willy Wonka instead of Charlie.

To be honest, the core reason the 1971 film is still remembered is simply Gene Wilder, and to a lesser extent the Oompa Loompas. Nostalgia is also a hell of drug because the film hasn’t aged well IMO. Swap the Wonka, and the 2005 is superior in every way.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

I also prefer the Charlie from the remake. He was more selfless. When he won the golden ticket, he wanted to sell it and use the money to help his family. That stood out to me.

 

[Drizzle]

I agree with Wonka, but I completely disagree about Charlie (or his entire family for that matter). I much prefer 2005 Charlie. Maybe because I read the book first. The 1971 Charlie is even more dull, hell they even renamed the movie to Willy Wonka instead of Charlie.

To be honest, the core reason the 1971 film is still remembered is simply Gene Wilder, and to a lesser extent the Oompa Loompas. Nostalgia is also a hell of drug because the film hasn’t aged well IMO. Swap the Wonka, and the 2005 is superior in every way.

It also helped that Freddie Highmore was a professional actor compared to the original Charlie. Strictly speaking characters, the ones in the Burton film are superior to the 1971 film save for Wonka, Veruca Salt, a couple of the parents and maybe the Oompa Loompas too. Grandpa Joe was more memorable in the 1971 film but he was also kind of a bastard in that one. Take Augustus Gloop for example. In the 1971 version, he doesn't appear to be a rotten kid, he's just gluttonous and a slave to his appetite. He doesn't really say much and he comes off more as husky than fat. Augustus in the Burton version was an obese little a**hole by comparison in the part when he asks Charlie if he wants some of his chocolate and says "Well then you should have brought some" when Charlie says yes.

 

[Monte Cristo]

I also prefer the Charlie from the remake. He was more selfless. When he won the golden ticket, he wanted to sell it and use the money to help his family. That stood out to me.

Writing isn't everything. I felt more heart and soul from the original Charlie's acting.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

Writing isn't everything. I felt more heart and soul from the original Charlie's acting.

Not just the writing. Highmore's acting felt far more sincere. He gave a much better performance.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[The Lazarus Pit]

I’m actually pretty hyped. Love this world

 

[The Joker]

I agree with Wonka, but I completely disagree about Charlie (or his entire family for that matter). I much prefer 2005 Charlie. Maybe because I read the book first. The 1971 Charlie is even more dull, hell they even renamed the movie to Willy Wonka instead of Charlie.

To be honest, the core reason the 1971 film is still remembered is simply Gene Wilder, and to a lesser extent the Oompa Loompas. Nostalgia is also a hell of drug because the film hasn’t aged well IMO. Swap the Wonka, and the 2005 is superior in every way.

I disagree. I was more enamored with the 1971 characters and general story more than the remake, even though the remake takes a lot more ques from the Dahl book, the 1971 movie just takes what it has and makes it so much more engrossing and entertaining, IMO.

Aside from Wilder's Wonka and the Oompa Loompas being superior, so were most of the kids. For example the 1971 Veruca is a MUCH more entertaining spoiled brat. The 2005 Veruca never got a scene to really cut loose and show what a nasty little spoiled brat she is. But the original Veruca got to show it in nearly all of her scenes. Take the scenes where we first meet her and she's hounding her father to get her a golden ticket.





The original Veruca verbally berates and shouts at her father. She exudes the energy and body language of an obnoxious spoiled brat. The 2005 version just made a pouting little face and said "Where's my golden ticket? I want my golden ticket". The 1971 Veruca would have chewed her up and spit her out.

The sub plot of Slugworth bribing the kids to get Wonka's secret everlasting gobstopper formula was very intriguing, and I love the twist to it. The hunt for the golden tickets was much more entertaining to watch showing various scenes of how people were going to crazy lengths to get them. My favorite was when we are shown a woman with some Police detectives, her husband has been kidnapped, and she is frantic and says they can have anything they want as long as she gets her beloved hubby back. The kidnappers call with the ransom. The Detective tells her they want her case of Wonka bars. She pauses and then says "How long will they give me to think it over?" lol.

I do think there are some things the 2005 movie did better like Charlie's family (Grandpa George and Grandma Georgina had actual funny personalities). But I liked the original Charlie and Grandpa Joe better. They came across more as real multi dimensional people. We saw Charlie's personal despair over the grim prospect of never finding a golden ticket. That scene between him and his mom at her laundry work place was a little gem. The 2005 Charlie was ok but very dry and one note to me.

I think the 1971 movie still holds up, nostalgia or no nostalgia. Its a great movie.

 

[Babillygunn]

I absolutely love the Burton version. I grew up on the book, and then the Wilder version. But the Wilder version, while entertaining, was a cheap off brand version of a classic book. Charlie and Grandpa Joe were awful a-holes. They didn’t deserve any award. Grandpa Joe was even threatening to sell the secrets to Wonka’s rival at the end.

The Burton version however was true to the book (with the exception being an updated Mike Teevee) and the characters maintained their charms. I didn’t find Charlie boring at all. I found him innocent and kind. That’s who he is. He is kindness and selflessness in a world of big personalities vying for their own interests.

I agree that Wilder was good in the role, but he played him as a bit of a tactical chess master while Depp played him as an eccentric man child hermit. Depp probably went a little over the top whereas Wilder was spot on. But I liked both of their portrayals for what they were.

But the Burton version as a whole is certainly my favorite.

 

[The Lazarus Pit]

The remake is fantastic. I love the restrained/caged escapism and the bittersweet dichotomy between the sterile outside world vs the factory.

I strongly prefer the remake.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[DarkKnight88]

The f? Wonka might be an immortal now?

 

[Pennywise]

Willy Wonka Prequel Eyeing Olivia Colman To Play A Villain And Exciting New Story Details: Exclusive - The Illuminerdi

WONKA INTERESTED IN OLIVIA COLMAN TO PLAY VILLAIN AND NEW DETAILS ABOUT THE PLOT
So far details have been scarce with the only thing known about Wonka is it will be a prequel film about the titular character’s early adventures. The mysterious character has captured the imagination of families for decades especially after Gene Wilder brought him to life on screen, including his unforgettable entrance. This prequel has endless possibilities especially with the film taking place before he is the famous Candy Man. We here at The Illuminerdi can shed a bit more light on the highly anticipated film.

According to our sources the origin story will take place during the Industrial Revolution in England in the mid-19th century. The prequel will also include the discovery of the Oompa Loompas during Wonka’s early adventures. In addition, the production has shown serious interest in Olivia Colman to play one of the villains for the film, however it’s unclear at this point if she has accepted the role.

 

[Jonwo]

Dahl created fantastic larger than life characters like Willy Wonka and Miss Trunchbull but the title characters with perhaps the exception of Matilda tend to be a bit dull and that's very true with Charlie Bucket. In the original novel, the 2005 film and the stage musical and one thing that stands out is that once Wonka enters the scene, Charlie gets relegated until near the end and I think the 1971 film recognised that by adding the Lifting Drink scene.

I am surprised that the Dahl Estate is allowing Warner Bros to make this prequel but I guess money talks and a successful film will drive sales of the original novel.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[Pennywise]

 

[Pennywise]

Keegan-Michael Key Joins Warner Bros’ ‘Wonka’ – Deadline