Iron Man Was Mandarin in the film? (don't read if you didn't see)

[Hiddensymbols]

Hey guys, I was just going through all of your posts, and I was gonna say bordering on all your ideas, what do you think of this? Raza wasn't the mandarin, just someone to allude to the fact that he exists. And the mystical rings are in fact alien tech that are so highly advanced that they are regarded as magic. Which in fact is common practice in our history look at the killing of people who showed further knowledge of science that was not of yet commonly accepted being labeled as witches. And to touch upon the aspect of the thor angle and how they will have to deal with that I simply say this: thor is a god, the son of odin, god's for the most part arent magical they are born with a divine power more akin to spirituality and something along the lines of the mutant gene, more so then to magical powers in the sense of : Dr Strange, Dr Fate, etc..... just a thought and only this guys opinion, tell me what you think.

 

[TheVileOne]

Stane wasn't referencing the Mandarin. He was making a pointed comment about the Middle East and it's people.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

I saw all the references in the movie but I never thought at one point that raza was meant to become the Mandarin. I think like others here he was too far in the background to be seen in this movie. He will show up maybe as the leader of the 10 rings which is a global organisation.

 

[Katsuro]

My guess is that Raza was one of ten leaders in the Ten Rings, and each leader wears a literal ring. Now, either Mandarin is the lead of the organization as a whole, or he's another one of the 10 who is seeking to take control.

As for Stane, I dont think he was part of it. His ring may have just been a coincidence. I think if he had been part of it, he would've taken Raza's ring when he killed him. It is still possible he was, but i'm gonna guess he wasn't.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Raza was just a henchman for the Mandarin - nothing more, nothing less imo.

Don't worry - we'll get to see him in all his glory in due time.

Also, lolz for the different spellings of 'mandarin' on this thread; 'manderine'?, 'manderian'?

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[Brian Braddock]

More like Raza is just working for the Mandarin. In the comics he use to give his rings to henchmen all the time. Anyone else catch it Stane said in the tent that technology has always been Asias weakpoint cus of there magic?

"Technology has always been your weakness in this part of the world." - I believe.

Squirrel calls it right - Deathshead, Stane didnt make any reference to magic

 

[William_C]

Well, I've read a few times that the Mandarin was supposed to have influence on the film, I think that the fact that the terroist organization was named "The Ten Rings" is just that, no doubt he is the head of it in my opinion. The novel mentions that their is a higher power over a Raza (well, like, he says it himself rather)

 

[ShadowBoxing]

"Technology has always been your weakness in this part of the world." - I believe.

In a way that line sets up the "magic" component though. It suggests that Raza and the ten rings can't rule by technology because they don't have it, and now likely never will, so that seems to imply they may have to turn to another source.

 

[IronLantern]

The novelization for the film insinuates that both Raza and Stane are under the Mandarin's employ. How much of that will be considered canon or not remains to be seen.

Did anyone get a good look at the symbols within each ring that they flash during the credits?

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

The novelization for the film insinuates that both Raza and Stane are under the Mandarin's employ. How much of that will be considered canon or not remains to be seen.

Did anyone get a good look at the symbols within each ring that they flash during the credits?

I'd have to say as far as stuff in the novelizations go, if it's not in the movies proper don't consider it movie canon.

 

[Savage]

Well I'm sure they can still work it into a sequel. Say that Stane is the U.S. branch of the Ten Rings and that maybe he was responsible for the deaths of the Starks so the Ten Rings could get their hands on Stark Industries. They did have control of it for a few years too. It'd be pretty cool if The Mandarin made this revelation.

 

[Heretic]

Well I'm sure they can still work it into a sequel. Say that Stane is the U.S. branch of the Ten Rings and that maybe he was responsible for the deaths of the Starks so the Ten Rings could get their hands on Stark Industries. They did have control of it for a few years too. It'd be pretty cool if The Mandarin made this revelation.

So was one of the Ten Rings incincerated in the blast? That pretty much rules out the possibility of the mandarin ever being full power.

 

[Savage]

I doubt that blast was enough to incinerate a gold ring and even if it was the ring is a pretty powerful thing so I doubt it's destroyed so easily.

The blast didn't melt the armor so I don't see why it'd melt the ring.

 

[Heretic]

They showed Stanes armor after that blast?

 

[Savage]

No but Stark was blasted out of the way and his suit seemed to be fine (well as fine as it was before the blast) afterwards. If something that hot was able to melt gold it would certainly melt the armor.

 

[Heretic]

Actually, Stark was concussed out of the way of the blast, while Stane was dropped into the blast. Big difference. Either way, I dont care if the ring survived, its a movie...and its alien gold!