WB & DC Meet For A Summit

[GreenKToo]

I absolutely DON'T think a reboot is 'too risky' or any more expensive than what Singer (sometimes in bad judgement - i.e. the total CGI Routh head bullet sequence) spent on SR.

First, the sets can be redressed and reused. If not that direction, then use an actual newsroom. If Collora can make a convincing newsroom on his tiny budget, why would we need something akin to the cavernous DP newsroom of SR?

And a NEW FRIGGIN SUIT can't cost much more than the poorly thought out thing Routh wore. In fact, it can probably be accomplished more cheaply if they stick to the comics and don't have to put some team together to rethink the damn thing.

Everything else is just casting, maybe some Kryptonian costumes, and maybe a CGI Krypton. If a revisit to Krypton, some practicle sets could be built and some minitures. (Remember when Hollywood used to use minitures instead of CGI?)

I loved how they explained Batman getting a new suit in TdK.
The same could be done in M.O.S., only have his suit get destroyed in his first encounter with the villain.
When the rematch happens, Superman arrives in the NEW, IMPROVED suit.

 

[I Am The Knight]

WB/DC want Superman to fly again...but will he fly.

Is that the latest results of the Summit?

LOL. I hope they actually decided what to do.

 

[GreenKToo]

Hmmm. TdK just took the B.O. crown. 155.4 mill OW.
I bet the suits at W.B. are dancing a jig right now.

 

[X-Maniac]

A lot of the general public seemed to like SR though, it won readers awards in both Empire and Total Film, 2 of the biggest and most popular movie magazine's out there, SR even won the 'Best 2006 Movie' award in TF and was voted ahead of the likes of Pan's Labyrinth, Casino Royale, Children Of Men, etc.

If they put a bit more action in there, and maybe another big name star for a villain, i dont see why it cant make more than SR.

Empire and Total Film have a specific readership of film fanatics. Mr and Mrs Joe Public do not run down to the newsagent shop to get these magazines and find out what films they must see. These magazines are for diehard film enthusiasts. They have established a certain kind of readership. I work in the media and I know one person in my office of 200 people has Empire, and she is a film writer and features manager - and she is always laughing at it for the way it attacks/praises certain movies and then has to backtrack when the films it attacks do well or those it praises do not.

I think the public are bored with Superman and also with Hulk. Man turns green and smashes things. Man from Krypton fights Lex Luthor who uses kryptonite against him. They are both like a one-trick pony. I really liked The Incredible Hulk but i know many people who just didn't care about it to want to go and see it.

A total revamp of Superman is needed to make the next movie work. Something much more visionary and exciting. Not Jason's superpowers emerging at kindergarten.

 

[merced]

Hmmm. TdK just took the B.O. crown. 155.4 mill OW.
I bet the suits at W.B. are dancing a jig right now.

This is interesting on its potential impact on JL. If WB wants Nolan to do a third in say 2011 he now may have to clout to say yes, but only if JL does not come out first/before Bats3.

I think TDK's owning the film crown now is bad news for both JL and MOS/reboot seeing thy light of day anytime soon.

 

[bgshw44]

This is interesting on its potential impact on JL. If WB wants Nolan to do a third in say 2011 he now may have to clout to say yes, but only if JL does not come out first/before Bats3.

I think TDK's owning the film crown now is bad news for both JL and MOS/reboot seeing thy light of day anytime soon.

I see it as good news for MOS, showing a film done right can make a bundle, and bad news for JLA

 

[GreenKToo]

I think its a win for all fans of DC.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

This is interesting on its potential impact on JL. If WB wants Nolan to do a third in say 2011 he now may have to clout to say yes, but only if JL does not come out first/before Bats3.

I think TDK's owning the film crown now is bad news for both JL and MOS/reboot seeing thy light of day anytime soon.

My belief is that the success of TDK has put the final nail in the coffin of that god awful Miller version of JLA. This is not to say JLA will not happen years from now, just that the current incarnation is dead. I don't think MOS/reboot is effected either way.

 

[GreenKToo]

My belief is that the success of TDK has put the final nail in the coffin of that god awful Miller version of JLA. This is not to say JLA will not happen years from now, just that the current incarnation is dead. I don't think MOS/reboot is effected either way.

I agree. I think it J.L. is as dead as dead can be, at least this version anyway.
I can see one happening down the road though, say maybe 6 or 7 years.

As for M.O.S., I think they'll stick to whatever they've already decided.

 

[I Am The Knight]

When is this "summitt" over?

 

[Superark]

My belief is that the success of TDK has put the final nail in the coffin of that god awful Miller version of JLA. This is not to say JLA will not happen years from now, just that the current incarnation is dead. I don't think MOS/reboot is effected either way.

Yeah I pretty much agree with that. WB would be insane if they tried to make a movie with a different Batman now.

I'm not sure TDK will effect MOS either. The only way I possibly see TDK effecting the execs at WB is showing them that when a sequel is done right, it will draw money.

I just hope they don't expect the same numbers or anticipaction for MOS/Reboot. Nothing will ever be like TDK again. The movie had so many different factors that played into its phenomenon

 

[GreenKToo]

No, they shouldnt expect those kinda numbers with other S.H. films. They should however expect good numbers.
Maybe this will inspire them to hire really good directors AND actors for their future C.B. films.

 

[Showtime]

I think part of what they talked/are talking about, is how to approach putting their other characters on screen. I would imagine the huge success of Dark Knight, is going to launch WB into using this version of Batman in a JL film later.

 

[Ita-KalEl]

No, they shouldnt expect those kinda numbers with other S.H. films. They should however expect good numbers.
Maybe this will inspire them to hire really good directors AND actors for their future C.B. films.

Yes this is proves again that a good sequel can do far more than the first movie.
After the real disasters of Fantastic Four and Silver Surfer and the reboot of Hulk, it is a good news for MOS.
Don't forget that Singer is still the same guy who did X2, one of the best sequels ever.

If I were the WB I would be careful in kicking Singer's ass, expecially because there is still the risk that Valkyrie will to be one of the best movies of 2009.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

If I were the WB I would be careful in kicking Singer's ass, expecially because there is still the risk that Valkyrie will to be one of the best movies of 2009.

I'm sorry but for me, even if Valkyrie were to win Best Picture honors, it would not convince me that Singer could make an excellent Superman film. One has nothing to do with the other, IMO.

 

[Showtime]

I think X2 is a better example then Valkyrie.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

I think X2 is a better example then Valkyrie.

True, but IMO, Singer didn't paint himself into any corners going from X1 to X2 but he did going from SR to MOS.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Anyone knows when this summit is over?

 

[Showtime]

True, but IMO, Singer didn't paint himself into any corners going from X1 to X2 but he did going from SR to MOS.

I personally think it is impossible for somebody to be painted into a corner creatively when you are dealing with movies. Of course, there was much less obstacles with X-Men.

 

[Superark]

Yes this is proves again that a good sequel can do far more than the first movie.
After the real disasters of Fantastic Four and Silver Surfer and the reboot of Hulk, it is a good news for MOS.
Don't forget that Singer is still the same guy who did X2, one of the best sequels ever.

If I were the WB I would be careful in kicking Singer's ass, expecially because there is still the risk that Valkyrie will to be one of the best movies of 2009.

Yes, I also think WB needs to be careful with how they treat Singer. But I agree with Showtime in that I think X2 is a better example than Valkyrie. Although I'm sure it won't hurt if Valkryie gets great reviews.

I think Singer can make a great sequel if given the opportunity, though he is going to need to make some changes.

I just hope WB doesn't "Richard Lester" Singer like they did Donner.

 

[merced]

As for M.O.S., I think they'll stick to whatever they've already decided.

Which is not to decide. LOL! Sorry, I couldn't resist.

 

[GreenKToo]

I personally think it is impossible for somebody to be painted into a corner creatively when you are dealing with movies. Of course, there was much less obstacles with X-Men.

It would require the hiring of not just good, but great writers. Someone who *gets* what Superman is about and what he can do.

 

[Superark]

It would require the hiring of not just good, but great writers. Someone who *gets* what Superman is about and what he can do.

That's why I'm disappointed WB wouldn't let Hayter, especially McQuarrie in as writers. Those guys are very gifted and I'm interested in what they could do.

I just hope whoever they hire aren't duds

 

[GreenKToo]

Which is not to decide. LOL! Sorry, I couldn't resist.

touche' mon capitan.

 

[Spade]

It's not a matter of Singer upping the ante. It's a matter of Singer understanding more about Superman than their mutual feelings of alienation. That worked well for X-Men because it's one long allegory on physical differences and society's potential cruelty. Here, it's only one facet to the icon. So simply "adding more action" isn't what's going to help the character's tarnished image.