WB's 'Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them' original script by J.K. Rowling - Part 2

You know who I want to play Dumbledore? Anthony Stewart Head because he can play bookish and bad boy have-sex-with-your-mum-on-the-front-of-a-car sort of bad. Or with your dad, whatever.

Anyway, I really liked this. At first I thought the three mains were a bit too Harry, Ron and hermionie but actually I think they are more like fry, Leela and zoidberg.

I'm very interested in a sequel but I wish they would go to china not Europe again because I think that has been done
 
I love the movie but that Grindelwald reveal was awful. I absolutely hate it. :csad:

Yeah i must admit, I'm not sure if it was an entirely necessary twist.

Oh and I thing the main female lead was a bit boring. I think they were aiming for Barbara Streisand in funny girl but they missed
 
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Queenie made the movie for me. She was so delightful and fun. As for the rest of it, it was pretty good! Super entertaining and had quite a few laughs along with a nice story. Wish Eddie Redmayne didn't mumble his words so much though.
 
The new set of characters are just not that interesting. The fact the nomag (muggle) stole the show from the lead character shows how weak Redmayne's character was. Plus the tired and expected love match-ups between the four leads is just so by the numbers. The villains are so forgettable. The Johnny Depp reveal was not even good. Is that supposed to be the big antagonist of this series? The entire film is just so full of fluff and safe that the creatures (who were more interesting than the talking cast) might win you over but I am not. I don't think I am ready for a series of five movies with this, especially with the cast.

I'd rather see a prequel detailing Hogwarts' early days. Or showcase a more interesting new group of wizards set in another country.
 
7/10... none of the characters really stood out like the other movies...it felt like a spinoff... which it obviously is, but thats not necessarily a good a thing. I'm in for the next movie, no doubt, but it needs to be a big improvement for the series sake.

I might should give it a 6/10 just not to have as high of a grade as any of the other films.
 
Doctor Strange had better OW but look at the Worldwide numbers:

Strange in 24 days: 600 million
Fantastic Beasts in 10 days: 500 million.

I told you that the movie will do great outside the US.
 
HP movies always do well outside US. The skewing of OS to Domestic gross is near 65:35 for the franchise. HP has a fervent fan base which will turn up for these movies eventually. The OW was disappointing even for a spinoff/prequel but the WOM and the subsequent legs will make the movie big worldwide.
 
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FANTASTIC BEASTS dug its claws into domestic audiences, dropping just -39% w/ $45.1M this weekend, $156M total.
 
We saw it for a third time last night, loved it even more, the theater was full. So happy this is doing so well, and it looks like the legs are going to be strong for this.
 
damn only 39% drop thats amazing and i think thats the best 2nd weekend drop this entire year
 
Good film making is never regressive. But then again, you don't actually seem to have things to complain about with the new Star Wars films in terms of quality, so time to complain about them being nostalgic.

Because it's a legitimate complaint and not enough people are talking about it. These things are linked to movie making now. Nostalgia is very in right now in pop culture. And there's a danger to this. Look at the election. "Make America Great Again." It can grow to a very harmful extent. That thread of thinking continues in movies now. Audiences are continuing to be fed this stuff with no other choice and are going to normalize it, making the studios pump out more of it. Because it's harmless entertainment means we're okay with it, unlike the election which has an opposite reaction from half the country.

Which is pretty much another way of complaining that they are giving people what they want. Good Star Wars, that emphasizes the genre that made people fall in love with the franchise in the first place. But that is somehow a bad thing...

That's not a bad thing, but the problem is, that seems to be the only thing that's making up these movies. And it's very superficial and they're only doing the bare minimum to do that. James Cameron said it best when talking about TFA. It was a reaffirmation. Its central function seemed to make us remember why something was so good. Not making just a great, new, inspired story first. If we're just going to get movies with stormtroopers, X-Wings, TIE fighters and things we've already seen, then I don't care how good it is. Apparently SW just makes up those things to people. When people complained about the prequels, I always thought it was because the storytelling wasn't as good. But from what I can see now, it seems people just missed OT imagery and characters more than anything. When it was actually the storytelling that made those things iconic in the first place. That makes me sad. TFA gets away with everything because it's a well directed movie with great, new characters. The fact this was all better than the prequels puts it in a box that makes everything seem better when the story was just passable.

Episode 8 I'm hopeful about and will be the decider of how this will go, which is why I'm not out yet. And most likely I'll enjoy Rogue One. Maybe one day it'll get to something new. Maybe these are a rough few years where they're finding their barrings. But it still could/should be happening now. There's no reason why they can't. Right now SW looks to be expensive fan fiction.

Well there's the whole bad writing thing but that's not the topic at hand.

If anything, a lot of the Fantastic Beasts praise I've heard comes from how it doesn't pander for cheap nostalgia and tells it's own story.

It panders more to known stuff a few times. Unnecessary mention of Dumbledore, even Grindelwald being in this is eh and this whole, "There's a war coming" ********. The problem is it was just a fine movie that didn't do much. It had everything there, but it came up short. It just felt like another Harry Potter universe film. Which is most likely how the next ones will go. The more event driven these movies will become the more numb we will be to them. Even the filmmakers. And Rowling will stretch this **** out.

Again, the whole "As long as they're good" doesn't cut it for me anymore. Good is relative now in the movie studio system now now that they're starting to get getting these things down to a science. There's no restraint anymore. They're taking things, whether big or small, that we knew from the past and making full movies out of them. Studios are just jumping on the bandwagon. They've always been like this. They see trends and they make that. But this is worse because they want to make quadruple those bandwagon films. They're not leaving any room to find the next new thing.

To quote Mr. Plinkett, "Am I losing my mind?"
 
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Is it safe to say this movie has performed lower than expected?

i think it is doing just fine its made 473 million in 10 days its no box office juggernaut but its not under performing and have only a 39% 2nd weekend drop is very good considering it was thanksgiving and the release of a huge Disney animated movie:yay:
 
i think it is doing just fine its made 473 million in 10 days its no box office juggernaut but its not under performing and have only a 39% 2nd weekend drop is very good considering it was thanksgiving and the release of a huge Disney animated movie:yay:

So it's going as expected.
 
Yeah, we are in the holiday time period, where legs are a bigger factor than in the summer.
 
Yeah i must admit, I'm not sure if it was an entirely necessary twist.

Oh and I thing the main female lead was a bit boring. I think they were aiming for Barbara Streisand in funny girl but they missed
I really like Katherine Waterston, but her character was just too passive. She needed more of a screwball Katharine Hepburn in Bringing Up Baby / Jennifer Jason Leigh in Hudsucker Proxy oomph.
 
Doctor Strange had better OW but look at the Worldwide numbers:

Strange in 24 days: 600 million
Fantastic Beasts in 10 days: 500 million.

I told you that the movie will do great outside the US.

Yay, I've been tired of Harry Potter since GOF movie but I'm happy to see a movie people were saying would get slaughtered by Marvel doing better.

i think it is doing just fine its made 473 million in 10 days its no box office juggernaut but its not under performing and have only a 39% 2nd weekend drop is very good considering it was thanksgiving and the release of a huge Disney animated movie:yay:

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Overall, I think getting J.K. Rowling to write a story set in 20s New York was the wrong choice. She doesn't seem that interested or knowledgeable in that setting. There's a lot of fun Great Gatsby / screwball stuff you could do with it, but without much change this movie could be set in modern day.
 
The world building, the thing I was most interested in this movie let me down. I couldn't even get that out of Rowling.
 
i think it is doing just fine its made 473 million in 10 days its no box office juggernaut but its not under performing and have only a 39% 2nd weekend drop is very good considering it was thanksgiving and the release of a huge Disney animated movie:yay:

Awesome. I hope Fantastic Beasts perform well in the overall BO.
 
The world building, the thing I was most interested in this movie let me down. I couldn't even get that out of Rowling.
I guess the answer to "what is magic like in America 60 years before Harry Potter takes place?" is "I don't know, basically the same, I guess?".
 
It was more racist and segregationist towards muggles than what we'd seen in the Harry Potter films.
 
Maybe so but it is hard to compare modern day England with 1920's America and say anything definitive.
 
It's even mentioned in the film that 1920s England's views on muggles are a lot more forward thinking than in America. Newt even describes American views as "backwards".
 

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