WB's 'Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them' original script by J.K. Rowling - Part 2

[DarthSkywalker]

There is nothing wrong with Dan and Emma's performance. They are both pretty great in POA like they are pretty great in all the movies. The problem with Ron was Grint, who while fun, also seemed to embody the worst traits of Ron on the big screen. Traits that very much are in the books. A selfish, whiny, ungrateful friend with really annoying insecurity issues.

 

[David H.]

The Young Headmaster.

 

[#root]

Jude Law is great but I don't know if I see him as Dumbledore. Guess we'll have to wait and see if he's a good fit.

There is nothing wrong with Dan and Emma's performance. They are both pretty great in POA like they are pretty great in all the movies. The problem with Ron was Grint, who while fun, also seemed to embody the worst traits of Ron on the big screen. Traits that very much are in the books. A selfish, whiny, ungrateful friend with really annoying insecurity issues.

I don't know how much of it was Grint's fault. He did play him more as comic relief but some of his good lines were cut too. I think it might be a bit of both I guess.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I like Jude Law for the role. The problem is the casting of Grindelwald.

 

[Steelsheen]

Jude Law will play young Dumbledore in the FantasticBeasts sequel (EXCLUSIVE) http://bit.ly/2nEP6oh

i wanna say something about the RL age difference between Johnny and Jude as compared to Grindelwald and Dumbledore in the books.....

........ but i am just so THRILLED to have Jude on this franchise im gonna overlook this for now t:

(for the curious, Dumbledore is a couple of years older than Grindelwald in the books as well as the portrayal in the Deathly Hallows film. Depp is practically a decade older than Jude, so...... )

 

[Loki882]

Cool choice. He was on my own personal shortlist in fact (along with Ewan McGregor, Colin Firth, and Jared Harris).

I wonder if they'll make Dumbledore's sexuality more explicit here (given that Rowling herself is involved in writing the story)?

 

[Loki882]

I didn't know about them switching Ron's and Hermione's lines. Maybe Ron would have come across better with those. But otherwise I love PoA, it's my favourite HP film. I'm not sure what was wrong with Dan and Emma's performances but will keep an eye out next time I watch.

As I recall, in the book it was RON who stood up to Sirius to try and protect Harry (despite having a broken arm at the time). In the movie, it's Hermoine while Ron, despite his arm being less injured than in the book, just kind of cowers in a corner being useless.

Honestly the films REALLY shortchanged Ron character-wise overall. They kept his flaws/mistakes, but then either gave most of his best moments from the books to other characters, or just removed them entirely. The only film to truly do right by him in this regard at all is Deathly Hallows Part 1.

 

[Iceman]

As I recall, in the book it was RON who stood up to Sirius to try and protect Harry (despite having a broken arm at the time). In the movie, it's Hermoine while Ron, despite his arm being less injured than in the book, just kind of cowers in a corner being useless.

Honestly the films REALLY shortchanged Ron character-wise overall. They kept his flaws/mistakes, but then either gave most of his best moments from the books to other characters, or just removed them entirely. The only film to truly do right by him in this regard at all is Deathly Hallows Part 1.

This makes sense as for me as someone who saw the films without reading the books, Ron definitely felt like by far the weakest character out of the big 3. Hermione was up there with Harry while Ron felt pretty useless and uninteresting most of the time.

 

[Loki882]

I mean even the honest trailers people poked fun at it. "A boy wizard, his totally useless best friend, and his better in every way hot lady friend. And by hot lady friend, we of course only mean in the last three movies after she turned 18."

I was also watching The Dom's Lost in Adaptation Harry Potter-athon on YouTube and he had a fun theory about DH part 1. His theory was that the reason why Ron actually gets to be useful in that film was either:

1. They accidentally gave Rupert Emma's version of the script by mistake. And then Rupert was so happy to actually get to do something that they didn't have the heart to take it away from him.

Or:

2. They felt like they had to finally make him useful for once, or else the audience wasn't going to give a crap when he temporarily storms off and leaves the other two.

 

[Iceman]

I mean even the honest trailers people poked fun at it. "A boy wizard, his totally useless best friend, and his better in every way hot lady friend. And by hot lady friend, we of course only mean in the last three movies after she turned 18."

I was also watching The Dom's Lost in Adaptation Harry Potter-athon on YouTube and he had a fun theory about DH part 1. His theory was that the reason why Ron actually gets to be useful in that film was either:

1. They accidentally gave Rupert Emma's version of the script by mistake. And then Rupert was so happy to actually get to do something that they didn't have the heart to take it away from him.

Or:

2. They felt like they had to finally make him useful for once, or else the audience wasn't going to give a crap when he temporarily storms off and leaves the other two.

Haha, love everything in this post. It's so true lol.

 

[Drizzle]

What did Ron do in DH Part 1 that was so useful that he didn't do in the book? The only thing I can think of was saving Harry towards the end but that happened in the book.


And I like the idea of Jude Law as Dumbledore. I honestly didn't even think of him for the role since I was expecting someone a little older, but I think he'll do fine.

 

[Marvolo]

I like Jude Law for the role. The problem is the casting of Grindelwald.

Yeah I really wish Colin Farrell was Grindewald instead of Depp. God, wtf was Yates thinking. And that ****ing albino look...that he somehow loses before he is imprisoned.

 

[Ivan Drago]

The Grindelwald reveal in the movie with the super dramatic music was hilarious. Felt like something out of a cartoon show for toddlers.

There were people in my audience laughing and snickering in their seats.

 

[Marvolo]

Yeah my showing had more than a few "Who is that?" "Wtf is that?" and chuckling.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yeah I really wish Colin Farrell was Grindewald instead of Depp. God, wtf was Yates thinking. And that ****ing albino look...that he somehow loses before he is imprisoned.

Yep. Farrell was great in FB and then they ditched him for the warmed over corpse of Depp who looked ridiculous.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The Grindelwald reveal in the movie with the super dramatic music was hilarious. Felt like something out of a cartoon show for toddlers.

There were people in my audience laughing and snickering in their seats.

Oh look, Depp looking weird. Shocking.

 

[Loki882]

What did Ron do in DH Part 1 that was so useful that he didn't do in the book? The only thing I can think of was saving Harry towards the end but that happened in the book.


And I like the idea of Jude Law as Dumbledore. I honestly didn't even think of him for the role since I was expecting someone a little older, but I think he'll do fine.

That's the whole point, they at least gave him his big moments from the book there. The other films couldn't even do that much.

Also I'd have to go back and check to be sure, but I don't believe that he was the one who figured out the Regulus Black connection in the book either (whereas he is in the film).

 

[Ivan Drago]

Oh look, Depp looking weird. Shocking.

His head looked like a watermelon

 

[Vartha]

Anyone having problems finding the DVD in stores? I only want the dvd not the combo not the bluray

 

[Tg11]

With Jude Law playing Dumbledore and Johnny Depp playing Grindelwald I wonder how Tom Riddle/Voldemort will factor into things considering in the 40s Voldemort first rises to power well after he leaves Hogwarts when he leaves school and disappears

 

[Tg11]

Plus it would be nice to see the franchise finally be taken to Hogwarts or even to London in general

 

[Marvolo]

With Jude Law playing Dumbledore and Johnny Depp playing Grindelwald I wonder how Tom Riddle/Voldemort will factor into things considering in the 40s Voldemort first rises to power well after he leaves Hogwarts when he leaves school and disappears

These films are supposed to end in 1945 with Grindewald being defeated. Tom Riddle graduated hogwarts in 1944 or 1945. So its unlikely that Tom will be involved in the events of these new films. I suppose in the last film after he graduates Tom could seek out Grindewald and he could have some small role or scene to set up what he does in the Potter films.

 

[Tg11]

These films are supposed to end in 1945 with Grindewald being defeated. Tom Riddle graduated hogwarts in 1944 or 1945. So its unlikely that Tom will be involved in the events of these new films. I suppose in the last film after he graduates Tom could seek out Grindewald and he could have some small role or scene to set up what he does in the Potter films.

Even so Riddle by 1945 he would be 18-19 years old at least which means he would be freshly out of school since at Hogwarts they graduate at the age of 17...so I think it is likely we will see Riddle I mean we would have to

 

[Swordmaster]

We don't have to, no.

 

[YoungBlood]

How about letting this franchise do its own thing without connecting to the Harry Potter films.