The Dark Knight Rises "We'll use many of the same characters"....

[Brother Jack]

As far as villains go I'd imagine Scarecrow would be more likely to make another appearance than Two-Face, though both are certainly possible. The latter would just have to be done through flashbacks or something to that effect.

 

[El Payaso]

Let Scarecrow back! So we can have some boy-scout beat him this time.

 

[Karelia]

I really hope Scarecrow is back. I love Cillian Murphy as Jonathan Crane/Scarecrow.

 

[8Diagrams(WU)]

Yeah id like to see scarecrow around too.

Id say its all fair game, I could even see Dent returning in a way that would allow batman to clear his name. Not sure but the possibilities are endless.

Imagine seeing a surprise return of ras as an after credits bonus leaving a hint for another story arc. People would go nuts.

 

[Symbiotic]

Sad part is, we all know Joker would have returned had Ledger not died(what else is the point of keeping alive your main villain and having him talk about battling Batman forever).

Sometime ago, I might've agreed with you, but nowadays, I'm not so sure that it was such an absolute done deal in Nolan's mind before Heath's death.

 

[The Joker]

No, I think Joker would have popped up somewhere in TDKR if Ledger had not passed away. Don't know how big his role would have been, but I think he would have been in it.

 

[ScarecrowMan666]

I would love to see Scarecrow come back and redeem himself. I love Christopher Nolan but for him to have liked Scarecrow like he said he did, he sure let him get punked out big time. I mean come on...freakin Rachel Dawes took him down in the first movie, then in TDK he was in it for all of 5 minutes before Batman apprehended him. Scarecrow is supposed to be one of Batman's biggest threats...it's been stated in the comics many times before. So he deserves some redemption if you ask me.

 

[Smit84]

Regardless whether it was the original plan or not, I'm certain the Joker would return in the next one if Ledger were alive. His performance was too popular not to return.

In addition to the regulars (Batman, Alfred, Gordon and Fox), does anyone think any of the other supporting characters might return? Such as the mayor, Reese, Det. Stephens, maybe Ramirez? Since it is the end of a trilogy Nolan could bring these characters back.

 

[Revenant]

I could have swore Bats left Ducard to die on that train and Al Ghul died in the monastery.

 

[The Joker]

I could have swore Bats left Ducard to die on that train and Al Ghul died in the monastery.

Ducard was Ra's Al Ghul.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Regardless whether it was the original plan or not, I'm certain the Joker would return in the next one if Ledger were alive. His performance was too popular not to return.

In addition to the regulars (Batman, Alfred, Gordon and Fox), does anyone think any of the other supporting characters might return? Such as the mayor, Reese, Det. Stephens, maybe Ramirez? Since it is the end of a trilogy Nolan could bring these characters back.

I would like to see Stephens back. The others, I don't care about.

 

[ALP]

No, I think Joker would have popped up somewhere in TDKR if Ledger had not passed away. Don't know how big his role would have been, but I think he would have been in it.

If Scarecrow gets a cameo in TDK, no doubt Joker would have at least gotten one as well in the sequel.

 

[J. Custer]

I would love to see Scarecrow come back and redeem himself. I love Christopher Nolan but for him to have liked Scarecrow like he said he did, he sure let him get punked out big time. I mean come on...freakin Rachel Dawes took him down in the first movie, then in TDK he was in it for all of 5 minutes before Batman apprehended him. Scarecrow is supposed to be one of Batman's biggest threats...it's been stated in the comics many times before. So he deserves some redemption if you ask me.

This interpretation of Batman is not from the comics. However, you can still find the Scarecrow you are looking for in the many comics and animated cartoons in which the character appears.


These characters have many interpretations. See? I can appreciate Adam Wests Batman and Neal Adams Batman. I can appreciate Frank Millers Batman in The Dark Knight Returns and I can dig Batman: the animated series. Nolans Batman is a more real world interpretation, with liberties taken as these Batman movies are action adventure flicks....like indiana jones or such. This is not the Scarecrow in the video game, the guy with 25 henchmen, and a vast criminal empire. Please.


Stop comparing and enjoy the greatness of Nolans interpretation. Murphy brought an Oil Can Harry vibe to the character, the evil doctor, a norferatu freakish quality. he was fun and creepy and dasterdly and cool....And straight from the comics.

 

[Dark Knight]

Meh.

I think this quote can be taken in many different ways. However, I think what he means by "same characters" are the ones that are the mainstays.

Batman
Alfred
Gordon
Lucius

For some reason I keep thinking we may see Ramirez back as well, looking to make amends for what she did in TDK and help Gordon as much as possible.

I also think either Falcone or Maroni may return as well and then being killed off by the new head mob boss perhaps (Hardys' character) or my Catwoman.

Then of course we may also see the return Cillian Murphys' Scarecrow.

I don't believe Ra's is coming back or Two Face.

 

[thejestergod6]

What about Thomas and Martha Wayne?

 

[Keyser Sushi]

For what it's worth my mind's been working the same way, Infinity. I've always felt that Ra's and Harvey could easily be explained away as "not dead" without any difficulty. They never actually said that Harvey was dead. It was absolutely implied, but not explicitly stated. And Batman survived the same fall.

Ra's is a ninja master and overall tricky bastard... and we never saw his body. So like you said, anything's possible there.

The casting call for a female lead has me thinking about Talia, of course. It would be the perfect way to re-introduce Ra's al Ghul.

Man, I can almost imagine a scenario where there's a price on Batman's head and a bunch of assassins and thugs are after him. Including Deadshot. Then Talia shows up as this mysterious femme fatale who bails Batman out of a tight spot and he's distrustful of her but she's interesting, dangerous and beautiful and she leads him on some wild-goose chase that ends with Ra's, alive again, with some crazy-ass choice for Bruce to make.

More food for thought - and some of you will call me crazy, and that's okay, none of this claims to be anything other than me having fun - but you know, in the original article where the title was announced, Geoff Boucher mentions Nolan having told him that the title of "The Dark Knight" referred as much to Harvey as to Bruce.

So would "The Dark Knight Rises" refer not only to Bruce's redemption, but to someone else's rise? Like an apparent rise from the dead?

It might almost be too much to have Harvey AND Ra's come back... would Ra's waste a Lazarus pit on Harv just to screw with the Detective, or would there be a larger plan?

Oh, I know... Nolan would never do THAT... I'm thinking like a comic geek.

Sure is hella fun, though.

 

[Conebone69]

For some reason I dont think Nolan will introduce a new major villain, I think hes gonna work with what he has

Ra's would be cool to have back!

 

[J. Custer]

For some reason I dont think Nolan will introduce a new major villain, I think hes gonna work with what he has

Ra's would be cool to have back!

yes! I think a man of his ability would not be so easily disposed of. He has the skills to escape. I have a felling he'll be back.

 

[horrorwriter]

For what it's worth my mind's been working the same way, Infinity. I've always felt that Ra's and Harvey could easily be explained away as "not dead" without any difficulty. They never actually said that Harvey was dead. It was absolutely implied, but not explicitly stated. And Batman survived the same fall.

Ra's is a ninja master and overall tricky bastard... and we never saw his body. So like you said, anything's possible there.

The casting call for a female lead has me thinking about Talia, of course. It would be the perfect way to re-introduce Ra's al Ghul.

Man, I can almost imagine a scenario where there's a price on Batman's head and a bunch of assassins and thugs are after him. Including Deadshot. Then Talia shows up as this mysterious femme fatale who bails Batman out of a tight spot and he's distrustful of her but she's interesting, dangerous and beautiful and she leads him on some wild-goose chase that ends with Ra's, alive again, with some crazy-ass choice for Bruce to make.

More food for thought - and some of you will call me crazy, and that's okay, none of this claims to be anything other than me having fun - but you know, in the original article where the title was announced, Geoff Boucher mentions Nolan having told him that the title of "The Dark Knight" referred as much to Harvey as to Bruce.

So would "The Dark Knight Rises" refer not only to Bruce's redemption, but to someone else's rise? Like an apparent rise from the dead?

It might almost be too much to have Harvey AND Ra's come back... would Ra's waste a Lazarus pit on Harv just to screw with the Detective, or would there be a larger plan?

Oh, I know... Nolan would never do THAT... I'm thinking like a comic geek.

Sure is hella fun, though.

Now THAT would be an amazing third film.

 

[Mister H.]

Will the Ra's who trained Bruce return, or will there be a new Ra's? Will Ra's Al Ghul be immortal not because of the Lazarus Pit, but because Ra's is simply a title for the overlord of the League of Shadows?

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Bringing back Ra's would be like having a second Death Star. Sure, it was cool the first time and still kinda cool for the second time, but don't you wish they had come up with something totally different?

 

[Mister H.]

^ I don't really see any similarities between Ra's Al Ghul and The Death Star.

 

[ALP]

Bringing back Ra's would be like having a second Death Star. Sure, it was cool the first time and still kinda cool for the second time, but don't you wish they had come up with something totally different?

Gotta agree. If Ra's was reused then this film would have a massive connection to BB and TDK would feel left out. The first and the third center on Ra's as the villain but the second would stick out with just Joker.

 

[Dark Knight]

Ra's MAY come back....MAY.....but not Two Face.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Meh.

I think this quote can be taken in many different ways. However, I think what he means by "same characters" are the ones that are the mainstays.


I don't believe Ra's is coming back or Two Face.

As I said in the beginning, honestly, I don't think he means that Ra's or Harvey will return either, but this is purely speculation because we really have only scraps to go on, so we might as well talk about something. Just for fun.

And I agree with you Keyser. Also, while I'd rather have Catwoman then Talia, the way you would have her appear would be very interesting. As the dangerous femme fatale that looks like she wants to help Bruce but ends up leading him right back to Ra's. That could be great. And it could be an interesting choice for Talia at the end as well, she may actually end up falling for Bruce, and having to choose between her father's revenge or Bruce.

I really wouldn't be opposed to seeing Ra's back again, just because I think he's a great villain that could easily be utilized more. And obviously the same with Two-Face. While I enjoyed what they did with him in TDK, his character could have done much more. Though, as I've said before, the odds of Two-Face returning are slim to none.

p.s. I just saw the Usual Suspects a few weeks ago. AWESOME.