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What can Sony do to save themselves??

Sony Save Your Self..............

  • Slash your prices....and take the losses to get sales

  • Stand your position otherwise you'll be in the red

  • Bribe 3rd parties to maintain exclusives.....gotta keep Microsoft at bay

  • Just put up a fight long enough to survive to the next-gen

  • Kill off the PS2 for good....if you give people no incentive move on they wont!


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We all know Sony is taking masive damage right now(i cant help it its contagious:woot: ) but what do you think they can do to save themselves before they do a Sega.........or do you think that Sony is doomed this time around and should hold out long enough to get the PS4 out?:woot:
 
They've already started by reducing the prices on a global basis while at the same time offloading the cell processor to Toshiba for a reasonable sum, they'll have a big christmas now that the price range is better off so they have nothing to worry about just yet

Besides the console has barely been available for a year and an even shorter time span on a worldwide scale
 
We all know Sony is taking masive damage right now(i cant help it its contagious:woot: ) but what do you think they can do to save themselves before they do a Sega.........or do you think that Sony is doomed this time around and should hold out long enough to get the PS4 out?:woot:

Everyone here knows how you feel about Sony. You honestly should just stop making pointless threads that we already have in other forums only to incite people into a flame war.
 
i think they'll be fine come 2008. they're off to a rocky start but i wouldn't consider them down and out until we see how their heavy hitting, system selling games do.
 
Everyone here knows how you feel about Sony. You honestly should just stop making pointless threads that we already have in other forums only to incite people into a flame war.
I agree.
But, for the hell of it. Sony is doing just fine. It has sold the same amount of systems the first year as 360. And 360 had no competition while Sony has dealt with 360 and Wii sales.

I think I have said more than this thread deserves.
 
It's not a flame war I'm just asking "what should sony do to help themselves out more"....I did'nt even insult sony so yeah grow up!......I've said numerous of times that sony does things right and I've equally said nintendo has things they could change themselves. It's a simple question, get over yourself and move on! If you think something is stupid, then put up the effort to answer it. If you go to the misc forum you can see i have polls for every system wii, 360, and ps3! And I've never started the thread with some evil message for one and not the other.

With the Microsoft one I said whether or not they should continue focusing their attention on Japan. I asked everyone their opinion and stated something i heard pertaining to Microsoft and their stance in Japan. Did i insult Microsoft? No. Did i go all blind fangirl for them? No.....I did'nt even say anything about the whole stereotype about the Japanese not liking anything from America b/c I know its not true.

With the wii one I asked people whether or not they thought it was a fad or not....I gave my two cents and said im glad nintendo's getting their house in order...I know nintendo's internet service sucks if you ask me I'll tell you straight. I know nintendo sometimes leans to heavily on rehashes but, who does'nt these days.....I could go on and on if you like....

So Cookiva i'll openly admit I'm not the biggest fan of Sony, but I'm not to blind to give credit when credits due......not when you pretty much botch your own launch up, I cant help you there you did it to yourself....

I've played the snes,n64,ps,ps2,xbox,gc,ps3,360,dreamcast,gameboy,ds,psp and enjoyed each of them so what's your point........I'll tell you it's moot.

So back to the topic at hand i asked a simple question what can sony do to not let the ps3 put them in the red...is that too much to ask??? is it???

I mean my god you Sony fans are a sore bunch, Nintendo fans had to sit nearly a decade through this and more and they survived why can't you?

Just relax and just chill if Sony can pull through they can turn it around this gen and come back better than ever next time around.
 
What can Sony do to save themselves? The might try shooting themselves in the head next time instead of the foot to prevent any further embarrassment. :o
 
supah seems to behave like a 3 year old and you are incitinga flame war.s
 
Dude, we have this same thread in the Misc games forums. I know you know of it, because you have posted in it. By making this thread in the Sony forums, you are already spamming.

Second, you ARE trying to start a flame war. You are coming here and providing horrible options for Sony's fate. If you didn't realize that the options you posted will start a flame war, I feel sorry for you.
 
I mean my god you Sony fans are a sore bunch, Nintendo fans had to sit nearly a decade through this and more and they survived why can't you?

It's not that. The problem is that you come off as annoying with this thread. Considering that you've already made a thread very much like this.

And we all know that people like Fenrir and WHF are going to say the usual "Sony sucks" stuff and then we'll get people Timstuff to pop in and make the Playstation 3 come off as the greatest thing since sliced bread. Yeah, this thread has flame war written all over it.
 
Playstation 3 is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Zenien = Timstuff: Megaton of the century.

To be serious they absolutely should not kill off the PS2. It's making them a tremendous amount of money and dulling the losses from the PS3, along with the success of the PSP. They need to get the price down, obviously, but I think that the $399 $499 will be a good buying point for, well last quarter 08 even (maybe). But the real problem for them right now is that their first parties aren't delivering the goods, period. Now the first parties have had their arms tied by the high price of the PS3, but at the same time they haven't provided Sony with a mainstream commercial "MUST HAVE" title to really drive enthusiasm. They have a lot of decent to good games out and 1 or 2 great games, but they haven't been able to capture mainstream appeal with them to generate momentum for the platform, high price or not. Where's the Halo 3, the Mass Effect? Sony essentially has Ratchet and Uncharted this Christmas, and while both are quality titles (and Uncharted might be AAA), the marketing, and even the way Sony PR has handled the reveals of these titles dating back to last year, has been awful. This whole "Show the players some little stuff when the game is supper early, thus can be torn apart in the internet and the gaming journalism side, then keep everyone in the dark then suddenly release some videos online to counteract all the more negative impressions from long instilled beliefs about the project from early incomplete work" doesn't work.

Finally there's a problem with Sony's head of Software, Phil Harrison. He's made some great decisions through his tenure, and the only reason I lay blame at his feat now is that ultimate responsibility lays with him when it comes to the software side of Sony. There's no telling how much his hands have been tied by Kuturagi (who called all the shots prior to his departure), but needless to say, having something like Lair (which Kuturagi allegedly pushed at the expense of exclusivity for AC and other third party projects) is unforgivable from a first party published effort. In transitioning from the era of Ken K, I think Phil Harrison has shown an admirable direction for software (which is a very social one with things like Singstar, Home, Eyetoy), but he has to realize that Sony, developmentally, has a ton of development efforts that aren't being fruitful, and he has a lot of work to do within SCEEWWS if he wants to get the software side operating across the board at a level that the PS3 needs it to be at. They have the biggest internal development force in the world, don't let some random studio output crappy PSP JRPGs when you could have them be making GOOD PSP JRPGS. Don't sign a spotty developer like Factor 5 to an expensive million million million dollar deal for 3 games that you have to fund and lose money on.

I think I had a point.... but I'm tired... night.
 
We all know Sony is taking masive damage right now(i cant help it its contagious:woot: ) but what do you think they can do to save themselves before they do a Sega.........or do you think that Sony is doomed this time around and should hold out long enough to get the PS4 out?:woot:

I don't even know you and I can see past this loaded question. The smilies give away your obvious position and muddle the argument unjustly, for starters.
 
They are starting to make up for the steap PS3 price, now with it reduced to £299 in the UK which is only like £20 off the cheapest version of the 360 which is like £275. Plus put more effort into the PSP since it is their best selling console at the moment.
 
They are starting to make up for the steap PS3 price, now with it reduced to £299 in the UK which is only like £20 off the cheapest version of the 360 which is like £275. Plus put more effort into the PSP since it is their best selling console at the moment.

Sorry mate, but you're full of ****

The premium when it first came out was £280

It's now £250

http://www.game.co.uk/Xbox360/Hardware/Console/~r332626/Xbox-360-Premium-Console/

The core is now the arcade and that costs £200

http://www.game.co.uk/Xbox360/Hardware/Console/~r332927/Xbox-360-Arcade-Console/

or to put it another way, £100 cheaper than the ps3's cheapest gimped model

Stop spreading bull**** and get a clue what you're talking about in future
 
I'd hardly call the 40GB a gimped model, far less gimp than the 360 core thats for sure
 
I'd hardly call the 40GB a gimped model, far less gimp than the 360 core thats for sure

Considering sony's sermons about BC and how important it is (not to mention various pro-sony posters bringing it up at every interval) I find it amusing that the 360 premium, at £50 less has better BC :o
 
Sorry mate, but you're full of ****

The premium when it first came out was £280

It's now £250

http://www.game.co.uk/Xbox360/Hardware/Console/~r332626/Xbox-360-Premium-Console/

The core is now the arcade and that costs £200

http://www.game.co.uk/Xbox360/Hardware/Console/~r332927/Xbox-360-Arcade-Console/

or to put it another way, £100 cheaper than the ps3's cheapest gimped model

Stop spreading bull**** and get a clue what you're talking about in future

I'm sorry I don't check up on the websites to regularly compare prices of consoles but last week when I went to a game shop they were selling the PS3 for £299 and the 360 around £270.

And do I hint a bit of 360 fanboy-ism in a Sony Topic
 
I'm sorry I don't check up on the websites to regularly compare prices of consoles but last week when I went to a game shop they were selling the PS3 for £299 and the 360 around £270.

And do I hint a bit of 360 fanboy-ism in a Sony Topic

nope, just correcting people who don't know what they're talking about :whatever:
 
Considering sony's sermons about BC and how important it is (not to mention various pro-sony posters bringing it up at every interval) I find it amusing that the 360 premium, at £50 less has better BC :o

true, but I still wouldn't consider it "gimp." It still has the Blu-Ray drive, upconverts DVDs to near HD, has two USB ports (do you really need much more?), Wi-Fi (in my opinion very important) and all the hardware needed to play PS3 games which are getting stronger now. It's not a perfect model by any means, but it should help generate sales consistently.
 
true, but I still wouldn't consider it "gimp." It still has the Blu-Ray drive, upconverts DVDs to near HD, has two USB ports (do you really need much more?), Wi-Fi (in my opinion very important) and all the hardware needed to play PS3 games which are getting stronger now. It's not a perfect model by any means, but it should help generate sales consistently.
The xbox can also upconvert without the HD-DVD drive

The two USB ports will become an issue around christmas when rock band gets released. Even with the wireless guitar you still need a dongle plugged in to play it.

Wifi is over-rated, I've had my 360 hooked up with an ethernet cable for around 20 months now and never had a problem.

I'm not denying it's going to generate sales, but after hearing ps3 fans bleat about BC for so long I just find it odd that this unit is being treated like the second coming.

Bit of a 180, no?
 
The xbox can also upconvert without the HD-DVD drive

The two USB ports will become an issue around christmas when rock band gets released. Even with the wireless guitar you still need a dongle plugged in to play it.

Wifi is over-rated, I've had my 360 hooked up with an ethernet cable for around 20 months now and never had a problem.

I'm not denying it's going to generate sales, but after hearing ps3 fans bleat about BC for so long I just find it odd that this unit is being treated like the second coming.

Bit of a 180, no?
I know the XBOX upconverts, but it is still a nifty feature on the PS3. You can always buy a USB dock if you need more, they're rather inexpensive. I know you don't care for Wi-Fi, but I love it. One less wire the better I say because god knows I have enough of them already.
 
I know the XBOX upconverts, but it is still a nifty feature on the PS3. You can always buy a USB dock if you need more, they're rather inexpensive. I know you don't care for Wi-Fi, but I love it. One less wire the better I say because god knows I have enough of them already.
ditto and some people like myself need Wifi as it having as getting a cable to where the PS3 is located isnt an option. Im so glad Sony decided to include this feature in the system
 
As someone who doesn't have any of the next gen systems I do like that the PS3 has Wifi. I know whenever I get around to buying a new system I would need that because as Havok83 said, getting a cable to where the PS3 would be located would be a no go.
 
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