The Amazing Spider-Man 2 What Did You Not Like?(Spoilers!!!)

I was fine with the planes moment. It gave the blackout serious ramifications other than New Yorkers not being able to read a book without a lamp, etc. :oldrazz: I didn't mind the crane scene that much in TASM, but I'd take this any day of the week over it. Plus, I think there's some loose connection to be made with the opening Richard/Mary plane crash. An opposite result bookending the film.

I didnt dislike it, I just thought the screen-time it took up could have been used on far more important things. It could even have been cut down and still shown us what it needed too.
 
I think you are all over thinking the whole power level of spider-man thing. I think it shows that spider-man can't break the glass to show that the truck is tough not to show that he is weak. It's trying to stop movie goers making an argument about 'oh yea that truck wouldn't smash through all those police cars and be fine' but has created another fan boy argument in itself. Use movie logic the glass is strong and has been shown for such a reason just like the scene in winter soldier. It's a reinforced car what's not to get
 
I think you are all over thinking the whole power level of spider-man thing. I think it shows that spider-man can't break the glass to show that the truck is tough not to show that he is weak. It's trying to stop movie goers making an argument about 'oh yea that truck wouldn't smash through all those police cars and be fine' but has created another fan boy argument in itself. Use movie logic the glass is strong and has been shown for such a reason just like the scene in winter soldier. It's a reinforced car what's not to get

Re-inforced or not a guy who can catch a flying car in mid-air then toss it away after landing like its nothing SHOULD not have a problem punching through ANY kind of glass.

There is no over-thinking, its just a bad moment in the scene/movie.
 
The way they handled the different narratives. You had the Peter/Gwen thread, the Electro thread, the Harry thread and the parents thread. And for most of the movie, they cut straight between each one, it didn't flow at all. It's kind of ambitious I guess you could say, it's a lot like a comic book, but it just didn't work.

They retread too much of ASM1 - Peter finding something in his dad's bag, searching on the internet, improving his web shooters, quaint/obscure(ish) song to represent Peter's mood, finding a secret underground lab…!

Electro got defeated too easily I think, the explanation seemed a little convenient.

The CGI was ridiculous. Spidey looked good for the most part, but there were a few bits where they just embraced how over the top it was and let Spidey look too rubbery a la Raimi!
 
Pacing
Narrative structure
Rhino
Certain subplots could have been left out like Aunt May being a nurse and the plane scene in the beginning.
The length of the Goblin fight
 
Pacing
Narrative structure
Rhino
Certain subplots could have been left out like Aunt May being a nurse and the plane scene in the beginning.
The length of the Goblin fight
I'm with you on pacing and length of the Goblin in general. But after a second viewing, I think I may appreciate the narrative structure. We'll see.
 
The adaption of Dr. Kafka
Dr. Ashley Kafka is a great person in the comics, her male counterpart is someone I want to slap
 
Okay... I will say this. My problems have gone up after my 4th viewing.

- Felicia Hard(l)y (does anything).
- Kafka
- "World without Spider-Man" (Not the speech, just those specific words)
- RHINO being Oscorp
 
Okay... I will say this. My problems have gone up after my 4th viewing.

- Felicia Hard(l)y (does anything).
- Kafka
- "World without Spider-Man" (Not the speech, just those specific words)
- RHINO being Oscorp
Felicia is probably here to establish her existence. We may see her in the future.

Kafka is established because of Ravencroft. I don't think it's the last we'll see of that place.

And I like Rhino being from OsCorp. It's closer to his origin than him making the suit. His origin is basically some thugs offer him the suit, and he volunteers.
 
Make Kafka female and played by the woman from The Mentalist and it would've been okay. :funny:
 
Maybe. That could work.

Oh, and to add to my list...

I hated the lack of TASM suit :oldrazz:
Oh no way. I loved it at the time too, but get that thing outta here! With the new suit in the way, the lack of that suit is perfectly fine.
 
Errr, why does Spidey's unbroken web launcher fire before he presses it in this clip?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE7P4YT_OuU

Is it to show that it's about to break too or what? This scene was decent, but it demonstrates my main problem with the film, how much of a departure it is from the first one. Completely over the top by comparison.
 
The plot really needed to be trimmed in the second act. Electro either should not have been in the film or more well-connected to Peter's investigation of his parents' disappearance, because as it stands, there are four plots that battle for screen time, and the parent one and the Electro one were really underdeveloped.

What's frustrating is that the fix for the plot lines feeling too separate was sooooo easy:

Instead of Gwen doing the digging about Max, Peter should've immediately recognized that this is the second time someone dangerous has come out of Oscorp and decides it's more important than ever to figure out what his dad was doing for the company. He and Gwen split the work - he tries to uncover the truth about his parents while she attempts to learn what happened to Max.

His actions would bring things to a head with Harry, who finds Peter visiting Gwen and then informs him about his disease and his need for Spider-Man's blood.

This gives all the plot lines a common thread: Peter trying to figure out what Oscorp is doing. It gives him a central goal, making things much less muddled.

In the movie, he wants to find his parents, he wants to stay with Gwen, and he wants to help Harry. Implementing a prolonged Oscorp investigation would've remedied this by establishing a primary objective and allowing the goals of finding his parents, staying with Gwen, and helping Harry to grow out of it naturally.
 
The plot really needed to be trimmed in the second act. Electro either should not have been in the film or more well-connected to Peter's investigation of his parents' disappearance, because as it stands, there are four plots that battle for screen time, and the parent one and the Electro one were really underdeveloped.

What's frustrating is that the fix for the plot lines feeling too separate was sooooo easy:

Instead of Gwen doing the digging about Max, Peter should've immediately recognized that this is the second time someone dangerous has come out of Oscorp and decides it's more important than ever to figure out what his dad was doing for the company. He and Gwen split the work - he tries to uncover the truth about his parents while she attempts to learn what happened to Max.

His actions would bring things to a head with Harry, who finds Peter visiting Gwen and then informs him about his disease and his need for Spider-Man's blood.

This gives all the plot lines a common thread: Peter trying to figure out what Oscorp is doing. It gives him a central goal, making things much less muddled.

In the movie, he wants to find his parents, he wants to stay with Gwen, and he wants to help Harry. Implementing a prolonged Oscorp investigation would've remedied this by establishing a primary objective and allowing the goals of finding his parents, staying with Gwen, and helping Harry to grow out of it naturally.

Actually a fantastic idea!
 
My biggest problem with the film is that Peter totally did nothing, he was just waiting for stuffs to happen.

Peter recognize Electro as someone he saw before, and something happened to him. But once he beat Electro, Peter just forgot about him, even after Gwen told him what she had found out. No further investigation needed.

The search for Richard Parker's secret....or more like waiting for some random eureka moment? Suddenly Peter got upset with his father not being there, but his investigation went nowhere (and I don't think he really did any investigation). And what purpose did Richard Parker's secret serve? Osborn is building some biological weapon? So? I fail to see the impact at all.

And Peter practically left Harry, his so called best friend to death. Peter was right that the blood will cause trouble, but at least he should have tried something to help Harry, not reject him twice. The way the movie is filmed, it's like Peter didn't even bother...

I guess I will watch it again soon, hopefully the movie would be better in second viewing
 
I think he wanted to help harry but just had no idea what to do.
 
I think he wanted to help harry but just had no idea what to do.

Yeah..Peter did sound sad when he rejected Harry. But then next scenes we have Peter going all Gwen Gwen Gwen and at the top of his world, while Harry hit rock bottom and going through that aweful Goblin transformation

I get the idea, but the movie seems to show otherwise
 
"I break up with you." Whaaaaaaaaat? This chick is the Valedictorian?
Spidey's use of Spidey-sense in Times Square was too long and video game-ish.
Max Dillion was pretty damn hammy, but I'm sure people like him exist.
Kafta
 
The ONLY thing I didn't like is that the Green Goblin looked EXACTLY like Evil Ed from the original Fright Night. That did make me scratch my head a bit. Why make a iconic character look so similar to something like that? But an awesome film in it's entirety. I was totally surprised based on the bad reviews. The critics were just plain wrong. IMO.
 

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