Jack O Lantern
Mad Jack
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**** I wish I didn't ask now. I haven't read any New Avenger stuuf yet but I'm getting the first two arcs this week off amazon
MJD said:**** I wish I didn't ask now. I haven't read any New Avenger stuuf yet but I'm getting the first two arcs this week off amazon
MJD said:**** I wish I didn't ask now. I haven't read any New Avenger stuuf yet but I'm getting the first two arcs this week off amazon
Galactus said:Is it really the writer who decides in which direction the comic should go? Isn't that the editor's decision? Even if you have some interesting ideas you can't be sure Marvel would let you do exactly all that you want to do.
Doc Ock said:I didn't mean to rain on your parade,and I'm not trying to diss your creativity,it's just the wrong kind of creativity IMO. Dimension can be added to characters without changing them.
Like in Web of Death,DeMatteis showed a new angle to Ock.Despite how much he hated Spider-Man,and had always seen him as a pest,he also saw him as a worthy and decent self sacrificing adversary.Someone he could have been.Hence the parallel between Octavius and Parker.One is the geek turned hero,the other is the geek turned villain.
And the fact Spidey was dying,Ock felt cheated.Cheated out of killing his greatest enemy.Remember when he found Spidey unconscious,and he said to himself it would be so easy to crush him to a bloody pulp there and then.But he refused to,because he wanted him in peak condition for their battle.Hence why he cured him.
A wonderfully twisted logic.He did something decent,but for completely evil reasons.
Well if Ock ever helps anyone,there has to be something in it for him.And practically everyone he's teamed with,he has betrayed.
So what possible incentive could Ock have for helping Spider-Man find his child??
That might be best![]()
SpideyInATree said:I know what you mean about Ock, I do. But I still feel I could pull off evolving the Ock/Spider-Man relationship. I just need to sit down, finish my character studies, and see what I can do without stepping on too many toes.
Wouldn't you think Ock would feel a little left out knowing that the villain who has driven Spider-Man the craziest is Norman Osborn? To me, that's motive enough to drive Octopus to want to screw over Osborn. But to truly screw Osborn over he needs to keep Spidey alive.
Once he screws over Osborn, helping Peter get Baby May back, he tries to finish the job on Spider-Man.
Like I said. Just a quick idea that popped into my head to help kick start the story that will lead Spider-Man to find his lost child. And to also deepen the relationship between Spider-Man and his villains.
And if I can't use Ock, I could always use Chameleon to pull some strings. Maybe Electro but I would be sort of ripping off Millar in that respect.