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I'm personally crossing my fingers for Namor, Nova, She-Hulk or Spider-Woman. But I figure at least one of them will be another group title, so maybe Runaways.
I'm personally crossing my fingers for Namor, Nova, She-Hulk or Spider-Woman. But I figure at least one of them will be another group title, so maybe Runaways.
A full-on terrigen mist being released throughout the earth creating "mutants" (in place of inhumans if Marvel gets the rights back) may also occur in the wake of Infinity War.
I'm personally crossing my fingers for Namor, Nova, She-Hulk or Spider-Woman. But I figure at least one of them will be another group title, so maybe Runaways.
I'll give it a shot:
- GOTG 3
- Spider-Man 2 (Co-production between Marvel & Sony)
- Fantastic Four (Timing of the announcement is too great & Fox will never make another FF)
Full Phase 4 line up:
- GOTG 3
- Spider-Man 2
- Doctor Strange 2
- Black Panther 2
- Fantastic Four
- Captain Marvel 2
- Ant-Man 3
- Runaways
- New Avengers
Probably unlikely but how about, The sentry then the next Avengers movie could Avengers: The Void. Not going to happen but we can live in hope.
Why are so many people here not expecting Iron Man and Hulk sequels? Iron Man 3 grossed over a billion on its own and we haven't had a Hulk film since 2008. The third film is either Black Widow or Fantastic Four.
I thought about it again, and i think, they have something special in mind (to release these three dates already now).
That means, i think we will see "Doctor Stange 2" in 2019 (Feb. 2020) we see the "Inhumans" go to 2020.
That is the question - are the 2020 movies phase 4 or still phase 3?
As i know, they said "it is an update to phase 3".
Are they still doing phases in the future?
to your list:
I do not like to see "Runaways" on the big screen, and i am not sure, if we see "Ant-Man 3".
"Fantasic Four" would be great... if Fox does not make any more movies, we will see them definitly in the MCU.
And i think, we will probably see some "team up" movies or "vs." movies...
As well as - maybe - some "Spiderman Spin-offs"... (but maybe not in the MCU, but with Sony - yes)
What i am interested to see would be a "Hydra"-movie, from WW 2. Of course also with Captain America in a minor role.
It is difficult to predict phase 4. I would go with a few movies 100%:
- Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 (if its not in phase 3)
- Doctor Stange 2 (if its not in phase 3)
- Spiderman 2 (if its not in phase 3)
- Fantastic Four (if they get the rights back)
- Black Panther 2
- Inhumans 2
- Captain America 4
- Thor 4
- Iron Man 4
- Spiderman 3
- Avengers 4+5
+ a movie about a group of villians (Sinister Six or something - hope Hydra)
+ maybe a "Hulk" movie, within a team or "vs." or really a "stand-alone"
+ maybe "Guardians of the Galaxy 4"
Phase 4 could be around:
- Kree/Skulls war
- Hulk (as bad guy)
- Spiderman
No way is Dr Strange being made in Feb 2019(within a month of Captain Marvel.). If anything, Dr Strange will take The Inhumans spot, or wait until 2020.
Don't forget a Captain Marvel sequel. That is certainly way more likely than a boring WW2 Hydra movie.![]()
On top of that, the movies will end at trilogies. Feige stated that Infinity War would mark the end of The Avengers lineup as we know it. Don't expect a Cap 4 or IM4 unless one or more of the phase 3 movies flop.
There will be no Hulk movie. TIH was Marvel's only flop and Marvel doesn't own those rights.
1. Moon Knight
2. Moon Knight and Friends
3. The Amazing Adventures of Moon Knight
Yes, i thought about "Captain Marvel 2", but i am - same with "Ant-man 3" - not sure, if we really will see a sequal. It can happen - yes, but i am not sure, if the character - both (Ant-man) - can be used for a trilogie.
Captain Marvel is very strong, i do not see her "earth-bound". If they go somewhere else with her - sure.
Therefore i did not mention "Captain Marvel 2" (and "Ant-Man 3")
Why do you think a "Hydra" movie would be boring?
The history of Hydra, with all the big villians, WW 2, Captain America with a minor role. I would love it...
(I know, that it is pretty unlikely - but therefore it is " a wish")
What does it mean "End of the Avenger line-up as we know it"?
That means for sure not, that every Avenger in "Infinity War 1+2" will leave the team. There would be no superhero anymore around to build the Avengers.
Therefore, there have to be some "old ones" around. Do not think, that we will see (in phase 4) a completely new build-up for a new Avenger group (as you still have people like Black Panther, Spiderman, Captain Marvel, Doctor Strange).
And at the end - it will not work, if you kick out Hulk, Iron Man, Thor AND Captain America.
Do not think, that they will do it!
AND - Chris Evans said already, that he like to stay.
Chris Hemsworth is also still cheap, and is not desinterested.
Just RDJ could be a problem, but there should be no problem to give him 70-80 Mio if the movie makes 1 billion.
And, just look at the outtakes of "Ant-Man" - they are "showing" the 10 rings. Would say, that is a small hint(for "Iron Man 4")
Hulk - Marvel has the rights![]()
They just do not have the distribution rights, and therefore they would have to share the money.
Therefore it does not make any sence to make a "Hulk" movie, as they would earn the same money with - i think - any other property.
But, as seen with Spiderman, and maybe Fantastic Four, that could change quickly. If they buy the distribution rights back, or get it back "somehow", they could do a Hulk movie within 2 years. They have a idea for such a movie for sure already in mind.
Then, the CGI cost would be the only problem.
A Hydra history movie is likely out as we're actually getting the secret history of Hydra over on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. now. It was a big part of the last episode, and it will continue to be fleshed out over there.
Ok, I really have no clue what you're talking about here. Captain Marvel is strong but you don't see her "earth-bound?" I don't get it.
You mentioned a sequel for Doctor Strange, Spider-Man, Black Panther, and heck, even the Inhumans. What makes you so sure that those movies would get sequels and not Captain Marvel? I mean, at least Captain Marvel is an Avenger, unlike The Inhumans. The simple truth is, that if the movies are good and people watch them, they will get sequels, it's as simple as that.
Hydra: An evil version of Shield. That would be boring. I wouldn't want to see a Shield movie, so why would I want to see a movie about Shield? Save all that Hydra stuff or Agents of Shield.
Have you even seen a Marvel movie since Avengers? Since that movie, the following Avengers have been introduced:
Scarlet Witch
Vision
Ant-Man.
With Phase 3, Marvel will introduce Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Spider-Man, Wasp, and Captain Marvel. That is more than enough heroes to make a new Avengers team. Come to think of it, that's 5-6 heroes with their own movie, compare that to only three heroes with their own movie with Cap, Thor, and IM. Basically, if the new heroes' movies make money, there won't be a need for Cap, Thor, or Iron Man anymore. The only ones I see sticking around are maybe The Hulk, and possibly Black Widow.
Here's my New Avengers Team:
Captain Marvel(Leader)
Black Panther
Ant-Man
Wasp
Scarlet Witch
Spider-Man
Here's my alternate version:
Captain Marvel(Leader)
Black Panther
Vision
Scarlet Witch
Spider-Man
Ant-Man.
See? We don't need the old heroes. They aren't the only Avengers. I want to see the focus shifted to a new generation of heroes. Besides, The actors are getting old, and they can't recast unless Marvel wants to reboot the Marvel Universe, which won't happen.
Same difference. I didn't make the distinction, because like you said, what's the point of even having rights if you can't distribute the movie?
It's possible, but Hulk is a tough character to make a movie off of. Besides, it's Marvel's only flop. Why would Marvel make a film off an already established character in the MCU. Marvel doesn't want to lose money. If Marvel were to buy F4 back, I wouldn't see them making the movie anytime soon. They would at least have to wait for the franchise to cool off. The Fantastic 4 has been seen nothing more than a failure in the eyes of the public. Every movie has sucked. If anything, I see Marvel using the tie-in characters before they even using the F4. People who think that Marvel will introduce the F4 during IW or even as one of those standalone films in 2020 are deluding themselves.
Look, it is the same problem as with Superman. She is - maybe - way to strong to have three movies "earth-bound".
It is just an idea...
Who should she fight against?
If they go in space with her - sure!!
That`s right. If the movie is good, we will see a sequel - but that was not my point. I think it will be difficult to have many stand alone Captain Marvel movies "earth-bound".
But they would find a way - yes!
Okay!
I know many people who are interested in WW2. And i know, that they therefore would be interested in a Hydra movie - playing during WW2.
But that is just my position... no problem!
Yes, but you wrote something like "it will all change" - but it changed already NOW! It will always change - but that does not mean, that all original Avengers will go! That was my point.
And, leaving the Avengers does not mean, there is no solo movie!
My comments were based off of what Marvel said about The Avengers. Here are some more quotes:As i wrote - Evans wants to return, Hemsworth will cost around 5-6 mio per movie. (or less)
Only Johansson and RDJ would be a problem, as they get around 20 mio/70 mio ...In the end it is "just the money"!!!
And one of the things we love in the comics is that the roster is always changing. That new people are coming on to the team, and that you could pick up an Avengers book ten years later and you don't recognize people on the cover.
Yes, no argument against it...
Just, that Evans and Hemsworth could and want return very easy!
And, it is the question, if keeping the "big 4" out works.
I do not think that it is naiv to say, that those 4 are - besides Spiderman - the Superheroes with the biggest fan base, or?
So the question would be "Why should DC make a whole phase without Superman, Batman, (Wonder Woman,) Green Lantern and Flash"? Also an Justice League movie without any of them??
And - if, would it work out the same way as with them?
Yeah, so the roster is going to change. The only way this will not happen is if most of the phase 3 films bomb. Even that is extremely unlikely. Things will start to get stale having the same old heroes. It's time for a breath of fresh air. Sure, Batman and Superman should be in the Justice League, but come Infinity War, we would have already had 10 years of movies featuring the original six avengers. It's time to move on.
Oh, and if those older characters aren't part of The Avengers movies, then, there's really no point in giving them their own solo movie. Part of the reason these Marvel sequels make so much more than the originals is because of extra exposure in other movies. Iron Man in The Avengers movie lead to Iron Man 3's HUGE box office.
Evans is the most likely to return. Downey is getting too old, and Thor has been one of the most boring characters to get his own movie. He's the only one that doesn't seem to have much of a story arc.
Yes. I think there will be a point, where the fans will demand a Hulk movie!
And i think a Hulk movie is in almost every Top5 for future movies. Or?
So, maybe there is a great amount of interest around...
I think people demand a Black Widow movie more than they do a Hulk movie, tbh. The top 5 for future movies(in no particular order) are as follows:
1. Doctor Strange 2
2. Spider-Man 2
3. Guardians of The Galaxy 3
4. Black Panther 2
5. Captain Marvel 2
Every now and then, you get people wanting a Planet Hulk movie for some strange reason.