What happens when Marvel Run out of A-Listers?

[TheVileOne]

Yeah, Marvel will have plenty of films to fill its stable for a while, plus a remarkable ability to turn lesser known characters into major franchises. That's even if Captain America and Iron Man go on the back burner for a while.

I'm more worried about the future of the comics and comics industry as a whole more than the state of the movies.

 

[Batmannerism]

Anyone who has read their books?

True, but that's not really the wider cinema audience is it ? How many people really read their books - and that doesn't mean that they would necessarily translate into great movie characters. I mean, Fantastic Four have had some of the most epic stories of all time and fought the most iconic comic book villains of all time - but their movies aren't great.


I loved Dr Strange as a kid, but was never surprised that no one else had ever heard of him, except my friends who also read comics. I never thought he could be so amazing on the big screen.

I mean, he has some great moments, like when he makes Galactus scream like a little girl....

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/59328/1895915-


But I was really surprised that they could bring his psychadelic weirdness to life in such spectacular fashion.

 

[Luke234]

I'm a DC and I haven't seen a marvel movie in awhile but I think they'd be fine just recasting guys one by one. I know Downey Jr is the main guy but if they get a younger respected actor they'll be fine.

 

[Luke234]

If I was Marvel I'd try to throw all the dough I had at DiCaprio. Age aside the dude is a great actor.

 

[Kev4000]

If I was Marvel I'd try to throw all the dough I had at DiCaprio. Age aside the dude is a great actor.

The recast of RDJr. would be the biggest mistake. They are smart, they dont make that one.

 

[Mandon Knight]

It's going to be very tough for Marvel if they do decide to re-cast Evans, Hemsworth & Downey Jr at some stage, they have, to their credit, imprinted themselves on those roles as defining.

 

[NotNickFury]

It's going to be very tough for Marvel if they do decide to re-cast Evans, Hemsworth & Downey Jr at some stage, they have, to their credit, imprinted themselves on those roles as defining.

So did Christopher Reeve as Superman. Down the line, could be decades or so down the line, we're eventually gonna get new versions of Iron Man and the rest of the MCU for a new generation or a new take on the Marvel films. Defining as actors are in particular roles, they can be replaced. Same with remakes or reboots. Regardless of how much someone defines a certain character or series, there's always someone lined up to do another take.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

It's going to be very tough for Marvel if they do decide to re-cast Evans, Hemsworth & Downey Jr at some stage, they have, to their credit, imprinted themselves on those roles as defining.

As is Harrison Ford as Han Solo, nevertheless we will see another actor in the role soon.
Or, if you think about it, Sean Connery was exactly that as James Bond and it turned out, even though Bond fans were furious at the time, he was replaced twice. And now we have the 6th actor playing Bond


I mean, I don't want to be the actor who is the Lazenby to RDJ's Connery, but I'm sure there are actors out there who fits the role

 

[ehh]

I believe that when RDJ is done with the role, Iron Man will probably retire or get killed off. They initially said they would recast like with James Bond, but I don't see that happening now. Anything is possible though.

 

[Slade W]

RDJ will be the toughest to replace.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Yes, he does. But not anywhere near the levels they would giving up. Look at Dr. Strange, for example. That movie is doing very well for a relatively unknown hero. It also going to do less than half of what the last Iron Man movie did. They would be leaving hundreds of millions of dollars on the table by not using characters like Tony Stark and Steve Rogers.

LoL wrong

 

[metaphysician]

LoL wrong

Do you have evidence for this carefully-constructed position? Perhaps a logical argument you haven't elaborated yet?

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

LoL wrong

I was wrong about less than half. Barely. Being near the end of its run Doctor Strange is currently at 53% of Iron Man 3. So a little more than half. That's a difference of $565 million.

So the point stands.

 

[Zarex]

It doesn't make much sense to compare the BO for Mister Doctor's initial appearance to that of Iron Man's fourth film, the return to the MCU after The Avengers.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

I was wrong about less than half. Barely. Being near the end of its run Doctor Strange is currently at 53% of Iron Man 3. So a little more than half. That's a difference of $565 million.

So the point stands.

Are you seriously comparing Strange to Iron Man 3?


Keep pushing that goal post back lol 53% lol

 

[Infinity9999x]

Runs our of A-listers? Marvel hasn't used an A list character since they started the MCU, not until Spider-Man in CW. Iron Man, Hulk, and Cap were all B listers at best, and everyone else has been lower. They made Guardians a household name. They'll be fine.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Are you seriously comparing Strange to Iron Man 3?


Keep pushing that goal post back lol 53% lol

Of the last four movies featuring Iron Man, the lowest one grossed $1.15 billion. The highest grossing MCU film without Iron Man? Ever? $773 million. The difference is crystal clear.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Of the last four movies featuring Iron Man, the lowest one grossed $1.15 billion. The highest grossing MCU film without Iron Man? Ever? $773 million. The difference is crystal clear.

Iron Man is hugely popular, no denying that, and he's undoubtedly a big BO draw, but labeling him as the only reason is overlooking many factors.

Avengers was the first time all the heroes were together. That had more to do with its success than the fact RDJ was in it. IM3 was the first marvel film post avengers and got a huge Avengers bost. A2 was again, an Avengers film, and CW was basically avengers 2.5.

What would be a good marker would to see how a solo IM film would do now. Still, I agree with you that Downey is a powerhouse and undeniably the most popular MCU character.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Of the last four movies featuring Iron Man, the lowest one grossed $1.15 billion. The highest grossing MCU film without Iron Man? Ever? $773 million. The difference is crystal clear.

GotG Vol. II, Thor 3, Black Panther will all do close to 1 bill in the next 12-14 months.


The MCU doesn't need RDJ after 2019. Especially after the main audience sees Strange & Ant-Man in Avenger's.

 

[DrCosmic]

Of the last four movies featuring Iron Man, the lowest one grossed $1.15 billion. The highest grossing MCU film without Iron Man? Ever? $773 million. The difference is crystal clear.

Downey's age and hilariously epic back end deals probably taint those billion dollar takes as a viable strategy going forward. It's true that Dr. Strange can't compare to Iron Man now, but that was also true of Iron Man compared with Spider-Man ten years ago. The smart game is the long game, and the long game is replace Iron Man with Dr. Strange. Diversify your assets, and that may mean, and has consistently meant, giving Downey smaller and smaller parts going forward. For all intents and purposes, he's an Avengers character, like Hulk and Black Widow. He can guest in other people's title-films, and he will continue to boost up other properties to reach Iron Man heights, but I doubt MCU will make another Iron Man solo with RDJ unless its a swan song or a comeback type film.

They *could* go for the quick cash in and make Iron Man 4 and it would make a billion and a half dollars, absolutely, but that undermines any efforts they're making to make Iron Man not the center of their universe, which I agree is the best call.