What If "Superman Starts" Hulks Out?

[Showtime]

Now, I don't think this is going to happen. I think "Superman Starts" is going to be a huge hit, but...what if it ends up grossing around the same that "Superman Returns" did? Similar to what happened with Ang's Hulk and Incredible Hulk.

Say around 400 Million Worldwide:

210 Million Domestic
220 Million Overseas

Again. I think the new Superman movie is going to be a juggernaut, but just throwing it out there.

What would WB do next?

 

[Changeling]

I say they just throw him in a Justice League movie after that with Batman, GL, and Flash as bigger characters than Supes.

 

[--Zero-Ethic--]

Simple.

George Clooney for Superman.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Simple.

George Clooney for Superman.

You mean Mark Ruffalo.

When things don't work out with the guy who should be playing the part... get the guy who should be mopping the floor.

 

[Superman2007]

If it is received better than SR by the fans and critics though, I think wb will be understanding, especially if it does well on bluray other home video formats.

They'll still greenlight a sequel or put him in a JL movie.

Marvel was understanding about The Incredible Hulk, Kevin Feige certainly was.

 

[KRIM]

Marvel was understanding about The Incredible Hulk, Kevin Feige certainly was.

So understanding that there are no current plans for a sequel, and he ultimately booted the star?

I think this Supes films needs to do better than mirroring SR or slightly besting it. It obviously won't be as big of a film had SR never existed, so I think WB is definitely taking that into account. However if it does around 250 million or so and the prospects are great for a sequel, this franchise would have successfully been revived.

But I'm easily expecting a gross in the 300s, on a good scenario.

 

[SatEL]

If it’s critically acclaimed and held in high regards by both fans and critics e.g. BB then I think a sequel will be giving the go ahead anyway.

 

[Superman2007]

So understanding that there are no current plans for a sequel, and he ultimately booted the star?

I think this Supes films needs to do better than mirroring SR or slightly besting it. It obviously won't be as big of a film had SR never existed, so I think WB is definitely taking that into account. However if it does around 250 million or so and the prospects are great for a sequel, this franchise would have successfully been revived.

But I'm easily expecting a gross in the 300s, on a good scenario.

He booted Norton not because of the box-office but because of the Norton and Feige were constantly, publicly battling over the final cut of the film.

It was always planned, regardless of how the Hulk did, that an Avengers film would follow. Feige has talked multiple times about the possibility of doing another Hulk film.

 

[Kryptonian Warrior]

Well it seems like there is a trend to go ahead and, I guess, greenlight the second film before the first one even hits theaters. For example, the writers of Captain America and The Amazing Spider-Man have already been tapped for a screenplay for their sequels. So I could very easily see something like that happening for Superman. However, the two properties that I mentioned are MARVEL, so that may make a difference. Just a though though.

 

[El Payaso]

He booted Norton not because of the box-office but because of the Norton and Feige were constantly, publicly battling over the final cut of the film.

It was always planned, regardless of how the Hulk did, that an Avengers film would follow. Feige has talked multiple times about the possibility of doing another Hulk film.

They said that so far there are no plans for a TIH sequel or any future Hulk movie whatsoever.

 

[Frodo]

Now, I don't think this is going to happen. I think "Superman Starts" is going to be a huge hit, but...what if it ends up grossing around the same that "Superman Returns" did? Similar to what happened with Ang's Hulk and Incredible Hulk.

Say around 400 Million Worldwide:

210 Million Domestic
220 Million Overseas

Again. I think the new Superman movie is going to be a juggernaut, but just throwing it out there.

What would WB do next?

It might signal to the studio that the Superman films have a bit of a ceiling in terms of Box office numbers. They may determine that any Superman film will always make around 200 million and that they shouldn't expect to make Harry Potter type numbers. I Then again , it depends on how much money they're putting into the films.

My fear would be that they throw up their hands and basically give up , but there's too much potential money to walk away from to do that.

So I guess in a sense , whether the film make's 200 million or 300 million , there's too much at stake to put Superman on ice because it doesn't perform up to expectations.

 

[Wheels]

They who El Payaso?

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

What would WB do next?

This.

 

[GreenKToo]

I think anything less than 500 mill WW will be considered a failure by WB, especially so after SR. I know about the whole BB arguement, but I really think it will sink supes for awhile on the big screen if it doesn't do well.

Thats one of the reasons i'm hoping for a bunch of very well know actors/actresses in this film. You might just get a few to see it that otherwise wouldn't have. Costner and Lane is an excellent start.

Bottom line is, its got to have a good story and kickass action..If it does, a sequel will take care of its self.

 

[Superman2007]

I hope they keep the December release date. If they push it to Summer the expectation are going to be miles higher.

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

It might signal to the studio that the Superman films have a bit of a ceiling in terms of Box office numbers. They may determine that any Superman film will always make around 200 million and that they shouldn't expect to make Harry Potter type numbers.

A studio adjusting to reasonable expectation? NEVAH!

 

[The Batman]

Now, I don't think this is going to happen. I think "Superman Starts" is going to be a huge hit, but...what if it ends up grossing around the same that "Superman Returns" did? Similar to what happened with Ang's Hulk and Incredible Hulk.

Say around 400 Million Worldwide:

210 Million Domestic
220 Million Overseas

Again. I think the new Superman movie is going to be a juggernaut, but just throwing it out there.

What would WB do next?

I've thought about this many times...and honestly, a small, tiny part of me would want to see it happen just to show people that it really dosent matter if you do reboots or follow another continuity.

 

[BestGirl]

If it’s critically acclaimed and held in high regards by both fans and critics e.g. BB then I think a sequel will be giving the go ahead anyway.

That's how I see it. WB was planning on an SR sequel anyway. They only changed their minds when Singer took so long to make Valkyrie, so they couldn't be too upset with SR numbers.

 

[Lencho01]

I truly can't make clear guess. I do assume it might not matter until they finally settle the court case. Just a matter of when. They fact we would probably not be getting this film if it weren't for the case is pretty interesting.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

This.

I say they just throw him in a Justice League movie after that with Batman, GL, and Flash as bigger characters than Supes.

I think if GL bombs as well then they would be more likely to try a Batman/Superman story first. But they would certainly be looking to do a team up, especially if Avengers is a success.

 

[Astrodust]

They need to keep Snyder on a tight leash. Get him to make the movie that they need, not the one that he wants.

 

[SuperAl]

My guess is the budget isn't going to be 270 million like singers failure so I don't see it doing as bad as superman returns

 

[SuperDaniel]

This won't happen.

 

[GreenKToo]

Folks that are interested in a superman film want a fight between superman and a supervillain. That was one of many mistakes in SR we have all heard repeatedly over the years.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I wanna see a fight that tops the neo/agent smith encounter, and the spidey and doc ock fight, with damage like we saw in cloverfield, only more of it.

If it can deliver that, it'll do fine.

So far it all sounds good, but if I start hearing words or phrases like, ''reimagined'' or ''we are sitting up the sequel for bigger action'' or ''realistic villains with no superpowers'' then i'll be fearful of its B.O.

 

[KalMart]

That's how I see it. WB was planning on an SR sequel anyway. They only changed their minds when Singer took so long to make Valkyrie, so they couldn't be too upset with SR numbers.

I really don't think that was how it was...because honestly, the sequel should have been officially greenlit shortly after the first movie, before he started Valkyrie, just like most other sequels to movies that actually are a hit. Put it this way, it seemed that WB needed further convincing to actually make a sequel, rather than convincing not to keep going. If it was only Singer's conflict with Valkyrie, they would have found a way to still keep going if a sequel really was in the cards. Even the WGA strike was well after more than enough time to get the ball rolling.

But with SR...they had the movie'e theater run, DVD, and even story submissions for a sequel followed by the original writers 'leaving'...and still no greenlight. Comparatively, movies like Iron Man, Transformers, and POTC pretty much inked a deal for a sequel while still playing in the theaters.