Superman Returns Will Superman follow X-Men's pattern?

[Orko Is King]

What I mean by that is, X-Men was a decent movie, but not a great one. It got decent reviews, but not outstanding ones and performed moderately at the box office. Most fanboys enjoyed it, but some didn't. But when X2 came out, things got a lot better. It received more critical accalaim and it ranked very high on many comic fans top comic films lists. Not to mention grossing over 400 million worldwide, which was over 100 million more than its predacessor. So, do you think SR's sequal will be a big improvement over SR?

 

[Pickle-El]

Depends on how you view patterns.....the 2nd half of SR was very much a 'Bryan Singer' movie. The first half felt like his lovestory to Richard Donner to me.

Though one thing is for sure, he needs up the ante if he returns....Much like he did X2.

Plus, I'm sure WB are up to their ears in the feedback dept at the moment...they just saw what a much 'lighter and fun' movie (POTC2) did at the Box Office. Superman is supposed to be by default 'light and fun'. Though, Singer went a little too serious for the summer crowd.

Quite frankly, you HAVE to have something for Superman to duke it out with. Give the audience that summer thrill....that sticky situation with Richard/Lois/The Kid is already there. They simply need to raise the action.

ps Please no General Zod. Put me in the 'leave the Donner universe alone from now on' camp.

 

[gimmen64]

Yep, Bryan Singer needs to make the next Superman his own. It was great that he stuck with the Donner films now its time for Superman to move on. It needs a lot more action, more romance and a supervillan....no more lex or a lex wanna be.

 

[Galactical]

i'd say it's more comparable to hulk than x-1.

 

[Jolly Rolly]

The sequel needs someone wacky like a Gus Gorman type of villian, and there you will have 'lighter and funner'.

 

[Zakk Sabbath]

The sequel needs someone wacky like a Gus Gorman type of villian, and there you will have 'lighter and funner'.

Yeah, and a gay robot

 

[BareKnucklez]

NO SEQUEL PLEASE!
Let this turkey sit alone... Let's wait a few years, and get a re-boot!

New Cast, New Director, New Producer, NEW SUIT!

 

[casketmouth]

What I mean by that is, X-Men was a decent movie, but not a great one. It got decent reviews, but not outstanding ones and performed moderately at the box office. Most fanboys enjoyed it, but some didn't. But when X2 came out, things got a lot better. It received more critical accalaim and it ranked very high on many comic fans top comic films lists. Not to mention grossing over 400 million worldwide, which was over 100 million more than its predacessor. So, do you think SR's sequal will be a big improvement over SR?

Yeah but Xmen had an addition of characters and had had a good word of mouth following that exelled for the sequal. Superman has very many bad things about it. Nobody cares about what Singer has set us up for. We didn't fall in love with anyone from this movie so it will not do as good as the xmen series what so ever!! Xmen hadn't been done yet so it tells you that many came back for more after friends and fam told friends and fam to watch it, they got hooked and came back for more. Superman has been done over and oer again... no one needed to be told about superman from grandparents to grand children already know full about superman. For it to not do as well as expected is due to the fact that the story was not intruiging at all and we needed a new superman not an already done 4 times before superman.

Superman will not build as much than it already did. It may actually have more fall offs than anything. Sad what Singer has done here...SAD!!!!

 

[casketmouth]

NO SEQUEL PLEASE!
Let this turkey sit alone... Let's wait a few years, and get a re-boot!

New Cast, New Director, New Producer, NEW SUIT!

I'm cool with the suit, it was good. Routh and spacey were fine and dandy.

Singer wasn't bad as a director, he was bad as a co writer of the story. VERY BAD!!!!! Producer gave good money. I blame the writer for this stinker.

 

[casketmouth]

i'd say it's more comparable to hulk than x-1.

yeah but hulk did better for the fans of the REAL hulk.

Xmen dissapointed fans and so did Superman(a kid???!!!! YUK!!!!!!!)

 

[casketmouth]

Yep, Bryan Singer needs to make the next Superman his own. It was great that he stuck with the Donner films now its time for Superman to move on. It needs a lot more action, more romance and a supervillan....no more lex or a lex wanna be.

Lex should stay but drop the lame plans.

 

[Junfan]

NO SEQUEL PLEASE!
Let this turkey sit alone... Let's wait a few years, and get a re-boot!

New Cast, New Director, New Producer, NEW SUIT!

You believe in the tooth fairy?

SR rocked.

I believe SR2 will be much like X2 in terms of stepping everything up a level.

 

[blind_fury]

X-men had a small budget. SR had a HUGE budget..

 

[Desk]

As has been noted, X-Men 2 did so well because the tentative, modestly budgeted first film created great word of mouth, and built a large following on home video.

In contrast, Superman Returns was a bold, expensive movie which the studio believed would do great business. It didn't, and the word of mouth surrounding the film is growing increasingly sour as its box-office performance quickly falls away.

X-Men 2 boasted a bigger budget than the original, with the studio confident it would at least do as well as the original. I can't see Warners having anything like that sort of faith in any direct sequel to Superman Returns.

Singer blew it... rather than pour good money after bad Warners' best option is to rethink its approach, wipe the board clean, and at some point try again with a team that can truly do justice to one of the world's most iconic fantasy characters.

 

[The Batman]

Batman Begins proved that your first movie can be awesome.

i expected the same with SR....but it didnt happen

 

[Eteric]

As has been noted, X-Men 2 did so well because the tentative, modestly budgeted first film created great word of mouth, and built a large following on home video.

In contrast, Superman Returns was a bold, expensive movie which the studio believed would do great business. It didn't, and the word of mouth surrounding the film is growing increasingly sour as its box-office performance quickly falls away.

X-Men 2 boasted a bigger budget than the original, with the studio confident it would at least do as well as the original. I can't see Warners having anything like that sort of faith in any direct sequel to Superman Returns.

Singer blew it... rather than pour good money after bad Warners' best option is to rethink its approach, wipe the board clean, and at some point try again with a team that can truly do justice to one of the world's most iconic fantasy characters.

Oh come on, the word of mouth isn't bad that I can tell. It just isn't being called a huge action film like PoTC.

 

[Superfreak]

A big YES.

I've been saying this for like 3 years now. Don't expect any huge fireworks in this movie. Singer is not stupid. He's already built one franchise, pretty much from the ground up, which spawned 2 sequels, and has the potential for characters to now move on and do solo films (a wolverine movie will probably be the next Xmenesque movie that we'll see).

The first movie will be good, not great, not mindblowing. But a decent film, with everything that goes along with that.

Expect SRII to be hugemoungous. 1) There will be a super-powered villain of some sort. 2) Lex Luthor will return as he knows superman's new most important secret, a tangent which must be resolved (him knowing about Jason Kent). And 3) I have no idea what's gonna be in store in the sequel. But points 1 and 2 will really sell the movie to me in a year or so, when the Superman wheels start turning again.

 

[Steelsheen]

What I mean by that is, X-Men was a decent movie, but not a great one. It got decent reviews, but not outstanding ones and performed moderately at the box office. Most fanboys enjoyed it, but some didn't. But when X2 came out, things got a lot better. It received more critical accalaim and it ranked very high on many comic fans top comic films lists. Not to mention grossing over 400 million worldwide, which was over 100 million more than its predacessor. So, do you think SR's sequal will be a big improvement over SR?

i thought the comparisson was closer to BB, except that BB had a smaller budget and didnt have the baggage of expenses from failed attempts at a reluanch. just think if SR kept the expenses under $200M it would be on its way to recouping its costs by now with profits to spare possibly by the end of July.

months back i had asked what kind of Superman movie are we gonna get from self-professed Superman fan Singer: a Spiderman-type movie (from Spidey fan Raimi) or an X-Men type movie (from Marvel stranger Singer).

seems like we got the latter

but if X-Men and X2 is anything to go by, Singer seems to learn from his mistakes rather quickly and improves on these while continues the strengths of the first film, so we'll see. one thing's for sure, if WB will continue the sequel and allows Singer to helm it again he will definitely be under the microscope.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

The movie is ALOT like X-MEN.

X-men didn't have all that much action either, it was really a character driven film like SR.

 

[casketmouth]

The movie is ALOT like X-MEN.

X-men didn't have all that much action either, it was really a character driven film like SR.

what character was driven in SR...please ellaborate.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I thought Superman really drove the film, although Lex had quite some screentime.

Superman returning, having to deal with the Lois situation and coming to terms with it, and even feeling alone....and at the end learning that he is never alone, like his mother and his biological father had said to him.

 

[Steelsheen]

The movie is ALOT like X-MEN.

X-men didn't have all that much action either, it was really a character driven film like SR.

exactly.

to bad SR has as much character flaws as X-Men did

 

[WTFwuzThT]

SR is a movie so filled with plot holes bad concepts and an overblown budget that it will sink under it's own weight. It needs to die a quiet bloated death. A second would not return would have a lower box office than this turkey did and doesn't warrant a second helping. It's dead, and thank GOd for it.

 

[WTFwuzThT]

I thought Superman really drove the film, although Lex had quite some screentime.

Superman returning, having to deal with the Lois situation and coming to terms with it, and even feeling alone....and at the end learning that he is never alone, like his mother and his biological father had said to him.

Nobody wants to see Singer splatter his angst oppressed life up on screen for all to watch in the guise of a dude dressed in tights. He could hide it in Xmen but it is blatant and silly in this movie. Leave that **** for Christmas movies or at least write it well. Either way it's a poor decision for superman.

 

[ReptileOrion]

Nobody wants to see Singer splatter his angst oppressed life up on screen for all to watch in the guise of a dude dressed in tights. He could hide it in Xmen but it is blatant and silly in this movie. Leave that **** for Christmas movies or at least write it well. Either way it's a poor decision for superman.

I agree with you...WB needs to put the Superman movie franchise to rest. WB's money would be better invested in bringing some of DC's other characters to the big screen. I'm sure some Superman fans aren't going to like to hear that. I just don't see the studio giving Singer $150 million dollars to make another Superman film. So I don't believe Supes will follow X-Men's pattern. SR's is going to have a sell a hell of a lot of DVDs if it wants a shot at a sequel....