What is the point of the 50 state initiative?

[Fantasyartist]

I'm confused- what is the POINT of the 50 state initiative? Is it to have a super hero team in each of America's 50 states(In that case who's Pennsylvania's super team?). Given that state and even federal law enforcement agencies(FBI/DEA) routinely engage in "turf wars", how do we know that the same thing won't happen between heroes from say, Louisiana and Massachusetts. What about Brother Voodoo who lives in New Orleans (like Photon) but is not a US citizen?
"Too many cooks can really spoil the broth" and what if a foreign super team (Excalibur, Omega Flight or the Winter Guard) decides to horn in?

Terry

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yes, the point of the 50-State Initiative is to have a superhero or a superhero team in every state. I don't think we've seen Pennsylvania's team yet. For all those technicalities, I imagine SHIELD would have the final word.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Actually the Commission on Superhuman Activities has the final word. S.H.I.E.L.D. is trying to build up the C.S.A.'s capabilities to enforce the S.H.R.A. S.H.I.E.L.D. is an international agency, not an American one and they are also helping Canada, Israel, and the United Kingdom develop their registration acts.

As for the teams, not all of them have been developed yet:

Colorado
Thunderbolts (Thunderbolts Mountain, Denver)
Active: Green Goblin, Moonstone, Songbird, Venom/Scorpion, Bullseye, Penance, Radioactive Man, Swordsman

Inactive: Ajaxis, Aqueduct, Atlas, Bloodstrike, Bushmaster, Death Adder, King Cobra, Rattler, Scarecrow, Silk Fever, Smiling Tiger, Vector, Whiplash, Zaran

Conneticut
The Initiative (Camp Hammond, Samford)
Staff: Gauntlet, Justice, Yellowjacket, War Machine, She-Hulk, Black Widow, Ares, Beast, Hellcat, Ms. Marvel, Danielle Moonstar, Nighthawk, Tigra, Wonder Man, Baron von Blitzschlag

Trainees: Cloud 9, Trauma, Komodo, Hardball, Thor Girl, Ultra Girl, Batroc, Arana, Patriot, Stature, Hawkeye, Vision, Wiccan, Speed, Hulkling, Slapstick, Rage, Bengal, Debrii, Scorpion, Stingray, Constrictor, Network, Two-Gun Kid, Gargoyle, Alex Power, Triathalon, Rocket Racer, Puma

New York
Avengers (Stark Tower, Manhattan, New York City)
Iron Man, Ms. Marvel, Wasp, Black Widow, Wonder Man, Sentry, Ares

Falcon (Harlem, New York City)

Fantastic Four (Baxter Building, Manhattan, New York City)
Mr. Fantastic, Invisible Woman, Human Torch, the Thing, Black Panther, Storm

Heroes for Hire (Golden Dragon Restaurant, Chinatown, New York City)
Misty Knight, Colleen Wing, Black Cat, Tarantula, Shang-Chi, Humbug

Phone Ranger (New York City)

X-Factor Investigations (District X, New York City)
Multiple Man, Wolfsbane, Strong Guy, M, Syrin, Rictor, Layla Miller

X-Men (Xavier Institute for Higher Learning, North Salem, Westchester County)
Active: Cyclops, Emma Frost, Beast, Shadowcat, Colossus, Wolverine, Iceman, Nightcrawler, Darwin, Havok, Polaris, Marvel Girl, Warpath, Rogue, Cannonball, Mystique, Lady Mastermind, Karima Shapandar

Inactive: Angel, Karma, Magma

Students: Elixir, Surge, Hellion, Armor, Dust, Mercury, Rockslide, Wither, Celeste Cuckoo, Mindee Cuckoo, Phoebe Cuckoo, Anole, Indira, Loa, Match, Wolf Cub, Pixie, Trance, Bling!, Onyxx, Nezhno, Blindfold, X-23, Ernst, No-Girl

Texas
Rangers - Firebird, Phantom Rider, Red Wolf, Shooting Star, Texas Twister, Armadillo, Living Lightning

Washington
Skyhawk

Wisconsin
Great Lakes Initiative (Milwaukee) - Mr. Immortal, Big Bertha, Flatman, Doorman, Squirrel Girl

Other
Aegis
Arachne (Omega Flight - Canada)
Asylum
Bishop (O*N*E)
Black Crow
Blade (S.H.I.E.L.D.)
Blazing Skull
Boomerang
Brother Voodoo (S.H.I.E.L.D.)
the Captain (Nextwave)
Captain Marvel (Negative Zone Prison Alpha)
Deadpool (Agency X)
Doc Samson (S.H.I.E.L.D.)
Elisa Bloodstone (Nextwave)
the Fixer (C.S.A.)
Hindsight Lad
Mach-IV (C.S.A.)
Machine Man (Nextwave)
Magdaline
Masked Marvel
Monica Rambeau (Nextwave)
Moon Knight
Morbius (S.H.I.E.L.D.)
Paladin (S.H.I.E.L.D.)
Quasar
Silhouette
Silverclaw
Sleepwalker
Solo
Tabitha Smith (Nextwave)
Timeslip
Tiger Shark
Toxin
Unicorn
U.S. Agent (Omega Flight - Canada)
White Tiger

As you can see, most heroes right now are either in training or in New York which obviously has to come first. The Great Lakes Champions were already in Wisconsin. Since the President frequently goes to his ranch in Texas, I assume that the government formed the Rangers quickly to defend that state. Do you think that right away there will be instantly 50 superhero teams?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Canada doesn't need help developing a registration act. They've had one for years, long before the US.

Which comic established the Commission on Superhuman Activities? I haven't heard of that before.

 

[RockSP]

The Commission has been around since at least the 80's. When US Agent first replaced Cap they were the ones behind it.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Huh.

Actually, I think I do remember seeing something about them in Avengers: The Initiative. Are they running Camp Hammond?

P.S. - That song in your sig is pretty good.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Better take She-Hulk off your list now Hippy Hunter

 

[hippie_hunter]

I know she got booted off of S.H.I.E.L.D. but wouldn't she still be a part of the Initiative?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It doesn't seem likely that the Initiative wouldn't fire her for turning against the guy who's basically in charge of everything relating to the SHRA. I doubt She-Hulk would really want to work for the Initiative now that she knows what its leadership did, either.

 

[PhotoJones]

I want to see Jen represent herself in court as a conscientious objector.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

But she didn't object, she agreed with the SHRA. It's only Tony's actions toward Bruce that have made her remove herself from SHIELD. I don't think she's really against registration now. She's just pissed off.

 

[PhotoJones]

But she didn't object, she agreed with the SHRA. It's only Tony's actions toward Bruce that have made her remove herself from SHIELD. I don't think she's really against registration now. She's just pissed off.

And I'm sure SHIELD is going to want her do some things against her cousin in the near future. I just thought it'd be fun to see that play out in the courtroom.

 

[kguillou]

Don't you guy's get it? Tony's been planning this all from the beginning. The 50 State Initiative is Tony's defense against Banner when he returns to earth. Trust me. Tony's been anticipating Hulk's return and he knows hulk's gonna be pissed. Having a super hero team in each state seems like the perfect defense against a power-house like the hulk.

 

[PhotoJones]

Don't you guy's get it? Tony's been planning this all from the beginning. The 50 State Initiative is Tony's defense against Banner when he returns to earth. Trust me. Tony's been anticipating Hulk's return and he knows hulk's gonna be pissed. Having a super hero team in each state seems like the perfect defense against a power-house like the hulk.

So Tony sent Hulk away just so he could come back and be more of a threat than ever before?

No.

 

[Anubis]

[shakes head at kguillou ]

Chicken or the egg grasshopper. Chicken or the egg.

 

[kguillou]

Yes that's exactly it. Come one guys, u mean to tell me Tony had no idea that Hulk would be back? Sending him away was a way of stalling for time, in order to think of something. Tony knows he'c comin back and he's preparing for it. It makes perfect sense. So i choose neither the chicken nor the egg.

 

[3dman27]

i still think a frachise of heroes for hire would do to comply with the iniatative in some states besides marvel is legally barred from naming a superteam "the champions" isn't it?

 

[hippie_hunter]

Don't you guy's get it? Tony's been planning this all from the beginning. The 50 State Initiative is Tony's defense against Banner when he returns to earth. Trust me. Tony's been anticipating Hulk's return and he knows hulk's gonna be pissed. Having a super hero team in each state seems like the perfect defense against a power-house like the hulk.

No he hasn't been anticipating his return. He expected Hulk to be on a planet with no life and there's a good chance that he wanted to kill him.

 

[3dman27]

any word on who/what florida's superhero or team/

 

[kguillou]

No way, I don't believe for a second that Tony wanted to kill Banner. I seriously think that Tony sent him away as a temporary solution in order to buy some time and plan things out. Sure he probably expected hulk to stay on that planet for a while but it was only a matter of time before either Banner or hulk would find a way back to earth. I think Tony knew this and therefore he's preparing for it with the Initiative. Remember back in Illuminati? Tony himself predicted basically the whole civil war, so you mean to tell me he didnt forsee this as well?

 

[Anubis]

Why would he send him away as a temporary solution in order to buy time to figure out his next step, for dealing with him coming back, for sending him away. That makes no sense. He sent him away, expecting him not to come back. Hulk coming back will be a total shock to him.

 

[Horrorfan]

When and why the hell did Blade become an agent of shield?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Probably when he registered. Everyone who does is available to loan to SHIELD now.

 

[hippy fascist]

Probably when he registered. Everyone who does is available to loan to SHIELD now.

he was hired to take out wolverine after he was caught during a fight with morbius. He fills a similar role to what deadpool was doing. He refused to kill logan though as logan had saved his life once before

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Why would he send him away as a temporary solution in order to buy time to figure out his next step, for dealing with him coming back, for sending him away. That makes no sense. He sent him away, expecting him not to come back. Hulk coming back will be a total shock to him.

I believe he thinks that he MIGHT come back, and is planning for a Hulk level threat, but doesn't actually assume he's coming back for sure for sure.

So it would probably suprise Tony, but I don't see Tony not planning for something Hulk level seeing how he's got a bunch of Hulk villans running around, and no She Hulk to depend on anymore.

That, and if Tony wanted Hulk dead, he'd have flown him into the sun, Sentry style.