What is the point of the 50 state initiative?

[King_Mungi]

Armadillo had a short lived span on the Rangers team, he joined up with M.O.D.O.K's villian team.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

I think the initiative is just so Iron Man can keep an eye on the states,and stop a revolt if it arises.

 

[3dman27]

makes sense a super-team in more than NYor LA is a good idea even without the SHRA think about it people with super-powers could live anywhere not just the big apple

 

[supermarvelman]

I believe he thinks that he MIGHT come back, and is planning for a Hulk level threat, but doesn't actually assume he's coming back for sure for sure.

So it would probably suprise Tony, but I don't see Tony not planning for something Hulk level seeing how he's got a bunch of Hulk villans running around, and no She Hulk to depend on anymore.

That, and if Tony wanted Hulk dead, he'd have flown him into the sun, Sentry style.

I think that Stark hoped that Hulk would stay gone forever on a peaceful planet like the Illuminati had intended, but I think Stark also knew that there was a good chance that the Hulk would someday come back, optamistically hoping the 50 state initiative would be fully up and running by the time he returned, if ever. Also rounding up Hulk villians, and the creation of the Gamma Corps, it seems as if Stark had some concerns about Hulks return and has done his best to prepare for it.

 

[roach]

If Tony was worried about the Hulk he has his Hulkbuster armor....while I do like the idea of superheroes getting out of Marvel New York i think having a team in each state is a bit over kill

 

[hippy fascist]

first comes the cops with guns, then suddenly criminals with guns start popping up, It's a funny old word

 

[supermarvelman]

If Tony was worried about the Hulk he has his Hulkbuster armor....while I do like the idea of superheroes getting out of Marvel New York i think having a team in each state is a bit over kill

How is it overkill? 1 team in each state, which equals to about 8 superheroes assigned to each state, that is not overkill. I do understand that some states are so mellow that they probably dont even need a team but with villians and unregistered heroes fleeing NY for more "mellow" cities, every state is gonna be getting some action. In the real world sometimes there are cities that are so boring with very low crime rates, but that doesnt mean that city doesnt have a police force, it's not like that mellow, boring city is gonna leave there problems up to a neighboring city. I personally love the 50 state initiative, and totally agree with each state getting a super team, I mean why not? What if oregon and Nevada didnt have teams? Does that mean the Champuions would have to take care of the problems? Well they could, but why not just have a team in each state. It's not overkill to have a team in each state if anything its underkill.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I think the initiative is just so Iron Man can keep an eye on the states,and stop a revolt if it arises.

No. No. No. No!

That is not the point of the Initiative. The point of the Initiative is to train, supervise, give accountabilty, regulate, and govern the superhero community.

If there was a rebellion within the states, and there is no sign of one even developing in both the real United States or the Marvel United States, the army would put an end to it. In the Marvel universe, superheroes would probably help put an end to it, but that's it. That is not the freaking point of the Initiative.

 

[Zoken]

Um hippie... a few quick notes here.

I think Jour was refering to a super-human revolt. as in, dissent in the ranks, which frankly I agree with.

and secondly, "Revolt" is a loosely defined phrase. in Oregon you have several people who hold what I would consider to be out right "revolts" against the U.S. Revolt and protest are frighteningly similar. So more than likely it would be police who put down rioters, but you can't really put down a "revolt" unless you are refering to a detention facility or something similar to that. the First Amendment to the constitution guarentees not only the right of the people to free speech, but also the right to peacably assemble and pettition the government for redress of grievences. also the press and chruch are guarenteed freedoms in there too.

Although free speech is something that Tony seems to have ignored as he attacked Peter after the only think Tony could have known Peter did was go on a news program and speak out against the program. but you know, screw free speech.

 

[roach]

How is it overkill? 1 team in each state, which equals to about 8 superheroes assigned to each state, that is not overkill. I do understand that some states are so mellow that they probably dont even need a team but with villians and unregistered heroes fleeing NY for more "mellow" cities, every state is gonna be getting some action. In the real world sometimes there are cities that are so boring with very low crime rates, but that doesnt mean that city doesnt have a police force, it's not like that mellow, boring city is gonna leave there problems up to a neighboring city. I personally love the 50 state initiative, and totally agree with each state getting a super team, I mean why not? What if oregon and Nevada didnt have teams? Does that mean the Champuions would have to take care of the problems? Well they could, but why not just have a team in each state. It's not overkill to have a team in each state if anything its underkill.

But Superheroes arent the police. The mission of a superhero is to handle threats that the police alone cant handle. Are the Champions now expected to take on crimes such as burglary or spousal abuse????? What would have been more feasible is to have regional teams. A Westcoast team and an Eastcoast team....with the teams being big enough to handle more than one problem. Having a team in each state is a waste as you'll have several teams sitting around twiddling their thumbs.
However that being said every major city needs to have some sort of superhero presence.

 

[roach]

How is it overkill? 1 team in each state, which equals to about 8 superheroes assigned to each state, that is not overkill. I do understand that some states are so mellow that they probably dont even need a team but with villians and unregistered heroes fleeing NY for more "mellow" cities, every state is gonna be getting some action. In the real world sometimes there are cities that are so boring with very low crime rates, but that doesnt mean that city doesnt have a police force, it's not like that mellow, boring city is gonna leave there problems up to a neighboring city. I personally love the 50 state initiative, and totally agree with each state getting a super team, I mean why not? What if oregon and Nevada didnt have teams? Does that mean the Champuions would have to take care of the problems? Well they could, but why not just have a team in each state. It's not overkill to have a team in each state if anything its underkill.

But Superheroes arent the police. The mission of a superhero is to handle threats that the police alone cant handle. Are the Champions now expected to take on crimes such as burglary or spousal abuse????? What would have been more feasible is to have regional teams. A Westcoast team and an Eastcoast team....with the teams being big enough to handle more than one problem. Having a team in each state is a waste as you'll have several teams sitting around twiddling their thumbs.
However that being said every major city needs to have some sort of superhero presence.

 

[supermarvelman]

But Superheroes arent the police. The mission of a superhero is to handle threats that the police alone cant handle. Are the Champions now expected to take on crimes such as burglary or spousal abuse????? What would have been more feasible is to have regional teams. A Westcoast team and an Eastcoast team....with the teams being big enough to handle more than one problem. Having a team in each state is a waste as you'll have several teams sitting around twiddling their thumbs.
However that being said every major city needs to have some sort of superhero presence.

I never said they where the police, I was just comparing them to the police, so I could illustrate why each state should get a team, just like every city has a police force. I live in Hermosa Beach CA, I'm only about 20 minutes away from downtown LA, and the police from HB pretty much sit around twittling there thumbs, but that doesnt mean that LAPD should be the ones taking care of HBPD business. No the Champions are not expected to take on spousal abuse or a kitty in a tree, they are there to take care of superhuman threats, that would include burglaries if it involved a superhuman level threat, . Having a superhero team in each state would basically bring about a superhero presence. I dont think just an East coast and a West coast team would work that well, what if the Champions had to respond to a threat in Utah, how long will it take to actually get there and stop that threat, a lot of supervillians still pull burglaries, which only take minutes? Sure they will eventually get there, but how much more damage would be caused because they had to travel from CA, when a Utah based team would beable to respond within minutes compared to an hour +, just the presence of a superteam would deter supervilian activity, no team present would do nothing but atract supervillians and supervillian activity.

 

[Horrorfan]

Tony is such a *****e, wanting to give the superhero thing structure and purpose, and wanting people who are basically walking wmds training. They should be free to do whatever the hell they want damn it

 

[Horrorfan]

Tony is such a *****e, wanting to give the superhero thing structure and purpose, and wanting people who are basically walking wmds training. They should be free to do whatever the hell they want damn it

 

[Horrorfan]

Tony is such a *****e, wanting to give the superhero thing structure and purpose, and wanting people who are basically walking wmds training. They should be free to do whatever the hell they want damn it

 

[Zoken]

wow, the infamous triple post. and in this country we all have the freedome to say "Screw you" that he is taking away. he declared Spider-Man an enemy because he spoke against Registration. Captain America was declared an enemy because he didn't want to hunt down other heroes. he would have been happy to regsiter and be sidelined (Granted that wasn't Tony's doing, but it was part of his machine). He's set himself up as dictator of Super-Hero-land. and that should be a hell of a lot scarier than all of them running around without training.

 

[3dman27]

wow, the infamous triple post. and in this country we all have the freedome to say "Screw you" that he is taking away. he declared Spider-Man an enemy because he spoke against Registration. Captain America was declared an enemy because he didn't want to hunt down other heroes. he would have been happy to regsiter and be sidelined (Granted that wasn't Tony's doing, but it was part of his machine). He's set himself up as dictator of Super-Hero-land. and that should be a hell of a lot scarier than all of them running around without training.

i see your point zoken ,i starting to wish[again] that marvel had 86ed the civil war

 

[Zoken]

WOOT! Someone agrees with me! (sorry, rare occurance, I have to celebrate)

 

[supermarvelman]

Tony is such a *****e, wanting to give the superhero thing structure and purpose, and wanting people who are basically walking wmds training. They should be free to do whatever the hell they want damn it

Them being WMD's is exactly why they should be trained, there is no doubt in my mind that the training part and registration of powers is very justified. I agree they should be free to do what they want, they shouldn't have to become government employees, but they should have to register and atleast get some training, to understand how there powers work, I dont think it has to be military style training but how can anybody seriously disagree with walking WMD's being properly trained. Basically it should be like the Xavier Institute, every student gets proper training, there I.D.'s and powers are documented, but they dont have to be part of the X-Men or any government team.

 

[Bubonic]

Is there going to be a Marvel monthly that'll go from one state to the next introducing us to the teams and it's members?
I figure it be the best way to go about it, it be foolish to start up 50 titles for a bunch of teams, most of which will probably be crap.

 

[supermarvelman]

Thats pretty much what Avengers Initiative is for, it's not set up how you describe it, but thats pretty much what Avengers Initiative is for. Issue 2 has already given us the Rangers.

 

[supermarvelman]

What state is Force Works assigned to?

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

Is there going to be a Marvel monthly that'll go from one state to the next introducing us to the teams and it's members?
I figure it be the best way to go about it, it be foolish to start up 50 titles for a bunch of teams, most of which will probably be crap.

And Marvel could have a new issue come out every week and call the series: 50. t:

 

[Bubonic]

Is it going to be on this big of a scale?
I was always wondering why, first off, no other country ever had any decent superheros on display, and secondly, why we hardly ever saw any characters develop outside of new york... Understood that top country/top city, plus you can only spread your imagination out so thin so when you've got an amazing new character concept you don't want to assign him to Vermont, but still.
If the top Marvel fan went through all the characters in the American Marvel universe, would there even be close to having at least one character originating from each State?

 

[3dman27]

possibly,yes