Superman Returns What kind of flying shots would you like to see in Returns?

[daywalker2007]

Once in a while there's this ungrateful task of explaining joeks and ironies to that "especially skilled" kind of posters:

Nolan didn't a exact replica of the bat-suit and yet it worked. The "replica formula" is not for 100% of movies. It also worked for X-Men.



Yes it was. Untill Burton came in 1989 and changed it forever by improving the original concept. Before 1989, Batman's suit was grey tights and blue mask and cape. Another example of how non replicas work very good.



Thats' why Singer just made little changes.



If you don't, then I applaud your honesty since you don't have anything to feel clever about.



Another ungrateful task due to my commitment with he "especially skilled audience": I don't really like Cesar Romero too much, but since my name is El Payaso I thought a clown would be nice but not anyone. Then, I didn't want it to be the comics Joker because it would have been too 'hey I'm a sicko, beware I feel identified with the Joker' an I didn't want Nicholson because it was too much about a specific movie.

Soyou see, Cesar Romero was ideal since it was a parodic image I am not engaged to (not big fan of the 60's TV series) and that you shouldn't take too seriously, which is something you totaly fail at, amongst many other things.



Whatever sexual reference fits you more.



I'm really not getting this Cesar Romero-rectum association. But sometimes our minds play tricks on us by seeing things we secretly long for that are not actually there and that we can't make. Your shrink can explain it better.

I think your shrink can explain it better to you.
After all, with an avatar like yours, it looks like you've been into rectum riding for many a year.

 

[El Payaso]

I think your shrink can explain it better to you.
After all, with an avatar like yours, it looks like you've been into rectum riding for many a year.

 

[daywalker2007]

i don't need funny comebacks, i already won.

LOL

looks like cesar romero's boyfriend El Payaso is having a fit.

ooohh


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[El Payaso]

i don't need funny comebacks, i already won.

LOL

looks like cesar romero's boyfriend El Payaso is having a fit.

ooohh


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????

"Thanks for make me look funny"

 

[daywalker2007]

????

"Thanks for make me look funny"

no need to post a pic of yourself El Payaso,

you already humiliated yourself, LOL

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[El Payaso]

no need to post a pic of yourself El Payaso,

you already humiliated yourself, LOL

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How? By owning you in every one of your points about the actual subject here and showing you're unable to reply properly to my actual points?

Yeah, a few emoticons will hide that really good.

 

[daywalker2007]

How? By owning you in every one of your points about the actual subject here and showing you're unable to reply properly to my actual points?

Yeah, a few emoticons will hide that really good.

oooh,look who's hot and bothered now.

Under pressure now are we! LOLt: t:

Speaking of owned, the fact that you have been owned in every response by me, and i wasn't even trying, is more funnier than i imagined!

I don't even know why im bothering to waste my time on you, you just humiliated yourself again!

Keep going, its getting funnier by the hour!

Call Cesar, he might throw in a few burittos to sooth your pain, LOL

 

[El Payaso]

oooh,look who's hot and bothered now.

Under pressure now are we! LOLt: t:

Oh loz I can use teh paint. That puts so much pressure!!111!!

Speaking of owned, the fact that you have been owned in every response by me, and i wasn't even trying, is more funnier than i imagined!

In fact you haven't answered a thing yet except for what's your highest brain's effort: freudian rectal association.

You sure haven't tried or you'd be exposed as openly unable to reply to the actual subject. You can't face that. But reading beyond your replies, your rectum is clewarly suffering your own ownage's effects.

I don't even know why im bothering to waste my time on you, you just humiliated yourself again!

Because by trying to reply to the actual subject you'd be forced to admit the already palpable defeat to your intelectual superior.

Keep going, its getting funnier by the hour!

Call Cesar, he might throw in a few burittos to sooth your pain, LOL

Burritos jokes? If that is "getting funnier by the hour" your rectum is really where your intelect resides. Hence, the references.

 

[daywalker2007]

Oh loz I can use teh paint. That puts so much pressure!!111!!



In fact you haven't answered a thing yet except for what's your highest brain's effort: freudian rectal association.

You sure haven't tried or you'd be exposed as openly unable to reply to the actual subject. You can't face that. But reading beyond your replies, your rectum is clewarly suffering your own ownage's effects.



Because by trying to reply to the actual subject you'd be forced to admit the already palpable defeat to your intelectual superior.



Burritos jokes? If that is "getting funnier by the hour" your rectum is really where your intelect resides. Hence, the references.

Looks like you have lost the plot again!
another victory for me! Without having to try!

you are under so much pressure you can't even spell "clearly".

Instead, you call it "clewarly".

I don't know what planet you are from,
but reading that, it seems you are indeed suffering from your own diagnosis of "freudian rectal association".

Looks like you just owned yourself without my help!t: t:

I bet sigmund is rolling in his grave now! His pupil "El Payaso" fails and becomes "teh" owned from his own ineptness.

LOL

Even Cesar would be laughing at you now!

 

[El Payaso]

hehe, you're like a Bubble Forrest Gump boy having fun in your own world. Only one laughing at your own jokes and having a big party on your own, avoiding to reply my points about the thread's subject due to inability... Sadly I can't be your Lt. Dan.

 

[daywalker2007]

hehe, you're like a Bubble Forrest Gump boy having fun in your own world. Only one laughing at your own jokes and having a big party on your own, avoiding to reply my points about the thread's subject due to inability... Sadly I can't be your Lt. Dan.

You Owned yourself & humiliated yourself with your own words. I don't think anybody on the planet could have done that apart from you.

LOL

Looks like El Payaso went on another rectum ride with Lt. Dan.

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[AVEITWITHJAMON]

AVEITWITHJAMON, have you seen the footage?

It's only my opinion, true enough, but I gotta say the few seconds of Iron Man footage, that is currently viewable, completely outclasses all the flying FX of SR.

I have only seen the GIF above, and IMO, it doesnt surpass the flying in SR. Plus, Iron Man will be a lot easier to render, since he doesnt have a cape or hair that has to flap with the wind does he?

 

[El Payaso]

I have only seen the GIF above, and IMO, it doesnt surpass the flying in SR. Plus, Iron Man will be a lot easier to render, since he doesnt have a cape or hair that has to flap with the wind does he?

And honestly it's very similar to some of the SR shots. When Superman goes through the roof of the Daily Planet, he also provokes that boom white thing because of the speed and all. That's why I said they were taking good ideas.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

And honestly it's very similar to some of the SR shots. When Superman goes through the roof of the Daily Planet, he also provokes that boom white thing because of the speed and all. That's why I said they were taking good ideas.

Exactly, at least in 2/3 scene of Superman flying, the sonic boom happens because Superman breaks the sound barrier. Yet Iron Man copies it, and all of a sudden its better and new? Give me a break.

 

[El Payaso]

Exactly, at least in 2/3 scene of Superman flying, the sonic boom happens because Superman breaks the sound barrier. Yet Iron Man copies it, and all of a sudden its better and new? Give me a break.

lol indeed.

 

[BMM]

Guess that means Cesar isn't the only rectum rider in town,

Looks like El Payaso joined the rectum riding brigade.

The rectum riding brigade?



...What the Hell is wrong with people on these boards?

 

[El Payaso]

lol

 

[afan]

I have only seen the GIF above, and IMO, it doesnt surpass the flying in SR. Plus, Iron Man will be a lot easier to render, since he doesnt have a cape or hair that has to flap with the wind does he?

That explains it, that gif is preceded by some scenes involving jet fighters and Iron Man in aerobatic maneuvers that are outstanding, and the gif does not include the sound fx, which are surely an integral part of any effect work.

It's not about capes and hair it's about angles, employing sound fx, editing and clever camera work, which IMO in SR were rather proletariat, repetetive, and mundane.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

That explains it, that gif is preceded by some scenes involving jet fighters and Iron Man in aerobatic maneuvers that are outstanding, and the gif does not include the sound fx, which are surely an integral part of any effect work.

It's not about capes and hair it's about angles, employing sound fx, editing and clever camera work, which IMO in SR were rather proletariat, repetetive, and mundane.

Well i disagree, i thought the flying in SR was brilliant, and i like that his hair and cape flapped while flying, made it all the more real IMO. Plus, as i said earlier, Iron Man will be easier to do than Superman was.

 

[afan]

Well i disagree, i thought the flying in SR was brilliant, and i like that his hair and cape flapped while flying, made it all the more real IMO. Plus, as i said earlier, Iron Man will be easier to do than Superman was.

One of the details of the Iron Man scenes involves the force of the air on his limbs, it's evident in the footage, but less so in the gif, the use of the repulsars in Iron Man's palms, and various machinations in the armor, in order to steer, attentions to CGI details that IMO does not bespeak of the ease of creating the effect, relative to Superman in flight.


The cape, a no brainer, one of the faults I find in STM's flying is the static position of the cape during most flying scenes.

The hair tho, would work for me if Superman's "do" in SR was consistently a loose toussled look, which would fit the flying. However for me the adherence to the spit curl coif in non-action scenes looked very fake and forced. Was he always super-combing his hair into that look? In order for it to be a natural appearance the hair would by and large be un fazed (ala STM) during the flying scenes.

Not a big deal to be sure but it did bother me.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

One of the details of the Iron Man scenes involves the force of the air on his limbs, it's evident in the footage, but less so in the gif, the use of the repulsars in Iron Man's palms, and various machinations in the armor, in order to steer, attentions to CGI details that IMO does not bespeak of the ease of creating the effect, relative to Superman in flight.


The cape, a no brainer, one of the faults I find in STM's flying is the static position of the cape during most flying scenes.

The hair tho, would work for me if Superman's "do" in SR was consistently a loose toussled look, which would fit the flying. However for me the adherence to the spit curl coif in non-action scenes looked very fake and forced. Was he always super-combing his hair into that look? In order for it to be a natural appearance the hair would by and large be un fazed (ala STM) during the flying scenes.

Not a big deal to be sure but it did bother me.

Well it didnt bother me to much the way his hair was flapping all around one minute and perfectly done the next, there are little moments like this in every movie, and i thought his hair and cape flapping REALLY added realism to it.

BUT, come 2008 i may be agreeing with you about IM, HOWEVER, it does have a 2 year advantage on SR, which is a lot in SFX terms.

 

[afan]

Well it didnt bother me to much the way his hair was flapping all around one minute and perfectly done the next, there are little moments like this in every movie, and i thought his hair and cape flapping REALLY added realism to it.

True, but those are typically continuity faux pas, in the case of SR it was "part of the plan."

BUT, come 2008 i may be agreeing with you about IM, HOWEVER, it does have a 2 year advantage on SR, which is a lot in SFX terms.

Absolutely, the technology is rapidly advancing in it's abilities, but the technology is only a tool in the director's hand. The sophistication of the technology does not guarantee a "wow" response.

In most of SR' flying scenes, Superman traveled in a prone position in a straight line. Very rarely was I impressed with his manueverability or marveled at his speed and power. This was not the fault of the technology, but it was the fault of unimaginative creative input.

 

[SuperDaniel]

The only flying that impressed me on SR was the plane sequence and the gliding down in the roof of the DP.The rest is just meeeeeh.

 

[afan]

The only flying that impressed me on SR was the plane sequence and the gliding down in the roof of the DP.The rest is just meeeeeh.

Even those scenes lacked some punch for me. No thrilling take off to the rescue, missed oportunity to show us Superman rocketing past the pursuit jets, etc.

 

[SuperDaniel]

I know...I guess we`ll just have to be happy with SII...That take off was amazing...