what the hell happened in civil war 3

[The Leaguer]

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

At least I got a proper one. x.x

Jerks.

 

[Tropico]

No! My custom one!!!

 

[The Leaguer]

Corp has that one, not me. I haven't saved it to my Photobucket yet.

 

[Tropico]

At least I got a proper one. x.x

Jerks.

My pwned was totally proper! They were speaking about Superman and you got pwned, Superman pwns a woman=propriety!!!!!!!

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

My pwned was totally proper! They were speaking about Superman and you got pwned, Superman pwns a woman=propriety!!!!!!!

Hardly proper! That would imply you're a man.

 

[The Leaguer]

Oh, Trop is all man. Trust me. I know.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Oh, Trop is all man. Trust me. I know.

I used to think I did.

But it's obvious that he's all about you. Therefore, you must die.

 

[Tropico]

I'm not in that pwn, superman is. Do you have problems with reality?




Oh, wait........











It's the wine talking again, isn't it?

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Oh, you HAD to go there, didn't you? And for your information, no, not this morning or last night anyway.

 

[Tropico]

CW#3 Director's cut will show that these last 2 posts were what really started the fist fight between Cap and Tony.

 

[owenstar]

I read in one of the many civil war threads about Cable and Silver Surfer...can someone clarify that? What happened and why?

 

[Shadowknight]

CW#3 Director's cut will show that these last 2 posts were what really started the fist fight between Cap and Tony.

Do any of the "Director's Cuts" for comic books (this, Supreme Power, Avengers #1, etc) actually show different material added into the book itself, or just script pages and sample art? So far the only real "Director's Cut" I've read was Phoenix: The Untold Story which actually WAS fairly different from the published version of X-men #137 (the issue where Jean commits suicide on the moon).

 

[Tropico]

Nope, all I've seen are the other bells and whistles you've mentioned.

 

[Mr. Green]

I read in one of the many civil war threads about Cable and Silver Surfer...can someone clarify that? What happened and why?

Cable's powers were tweaked up to past omega level early on in Cable & Deadpool. This allowed him to have telekenesis that could lift islands without making Cable break a sweat. He could also use his telepathy to communicate with people across the world. He had a plan to make the world a paradise and take away the world's weapons. Every world power was going crazy about it but nobody at their disposal could do anything. HE WAS THAT POWERFUL. Anyway near the end it was revealed that SS came to stop him. The Surfer was taking him through buildings and battleships and Cable was using massive energy to reassemble the molecules after crashing through it. Cable was all burned out before his plan could come to an end. However, it turned out that he just wanted to unite the world powers against a common threat in the first place. Him. The important part is that Cable was once at a power level where he could take on any heavy hitter he wanted.

Keep in mind that after that battle Cable lost part of his brain that allowed him to have higher level telekenesis and telepathy. He has replaced his telepathy with a link to the info-net, a link to every computer on earth and thus knowledge of everything going on. He replaced his telekenesis with this weird looking outfit that he wears now that gives him the same powers as telekinesis.

I own every issue of Cable & Deadpool in case you were wondering. Hope that helped.

 

[BrianWilly]

From the Doctor Strange Respect Thread, here's the Doc completely pwning Galactus...
http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galacko5uf.jpg

...twice!
http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galatt1vc.jpg

That page is chalk full of awesome Doctor Strange pwnages, including going toe-to-toe with the Living f'ing Tribunal; simply put, the Doc makes Pre-Crisis Superman look like a pansy, there's no way Sentry should be able to beat him at his full power.

Strange isn't going into seclusion because he doesn't favor one side over another; the Illuminati special showed that he clearly favored the anti-registration side. Yeah, he could probably stop all of this infighting with a single magical word, but he's not going to. He's not a superhero, really, and he doesn't think that it's his right. Simply put, he's the Sorcerer Supreme; he's got his duties and they don't include butting in on something like this. And going by the comments from Wong in this issue, it seems that he's a bit disappointed in both sides that it all had to degenerate into hostilities so quickly.

I think its to late for Spidey. His enemies know his identity, JJJ is suing him, the walls are closing in on him. But I still think he will go toe to toe with Tony. I think he will regret his decision and blame Tony(hence the threat in ASM).

I hope they don't go that route. Oh sure, I hope Spider-Man will regret his decision and give Tony a stern talkin' to, but I don't want him to all of a sudden blame all his troubles on Tony as if he were forced at unibeam-point to comply or something. Peter Parker is an adult. He knew what he was doing, he knew the consequences of his actions inside and out, he knew what he was giving up, he had a choice that no one forced him to make, and he made an informed decision based on the facts. If he thinks he's made a mistake now, well, damn, maybe he should have thought of that beforehand. For him to suddenly go "THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT!!" on Tony feels incredibly childish, like a guy refusing to take responsibility for his own mistakes.

 

[hippy fascist]

Spidey didn't have a choice, if he didn't sign he would be breaking the law

Tony already said he would reveal the identity of anyone he knew who didn't sign, and that if spidey didn't sign he would withdraw protection from may and mj.

In essence: spidey not signing would have simply put his family in danger. He went for the lesser of two evils. Since his family were in danger either way he decided to accept tony's protection by signing the act. That's not a choice.

That's like saying either I'm gonna cut off your toes or your entire foot. It's not a choice, it's damage limitation.

Also it's the way he did it. First he just wants spidey to back him up so spidey promises. He then uses that promise to get spidey to unmask. Once he is unmasked he then drops the bombshell that he's gonna be hunting heroes...once it's too late to change his mind since he's already done the big reveal. Tony's a sneaky cock and not even worthy to kiss cap's ring. And no I ain't talking jewelry

 

[BrianWilly]

That's an interesting take on Spider-Man's choice. I don't think Tony would ever really allow MJ or May to be hurt, though, and if he did then he sure was trying to sell a different story to Peter. It may have just been the way JMS wrote that issue, but the impression I got was that Tony gave Peter as non-pressured a choice to make as possible. And I think you're forgetting (not that I blame you, considering that Marvel seems to have forgotten themselves more often than not) that Peter could have just registered with the government and not have had to reveal his identity to the public like Tony asked him to. He still would have stayed on Tony's good side, but Tony wanted a little more than that, and that's the choice that Peter decided to make.

 

[hippy fascist]

he had no choice on the reveal. Tony put it to him in a very all or nothing kind of way. It was I can't have my employee not unmask. therefore unmask or get out of stark tower. The accomodation was conditional on being an avenger.

Also tony has extensively used that accomodation to guilt pete into doing what he wants. He was there when pete needed him but giving someone your spare room is not the same as asking someone to put their family in danger just to support your soapboxing

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

From the Doctor Strange Respect Thread, here's the Doc completely pwning Galactus...
http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galacko5uf.jpg

...twice!
http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galatt1vc.jpg

That page is chalk full of awesome Doctor Strange pwnages, including going toe-to-toe with the Living f'ing Tribunal; simply put, the Doc makes Pre-Crisis Superman look like a pansy, there's no way Sentry should be able to beat him at his full power.

Strange isn't going into seclusion because he doesn't favor one side over another; the Illuminati special showed that he clearly favored the anti-registration side. Yeah, he could probably stop all of this infighting with a single magical word, but he's not going to. He's not a superhero, really, and he doesn't think that it's his right. Simply put, he's the Sorcerer Supreme; he's got his duties and they don't include butting in on something like this. And going by the comments from Wong in this issue, it seems that he's a bit disappointed in both sides that it all had to degenerate into hostilities so quickly.

Agreed, it was obvious that Strange didn't agree with Registration, but it also stands to show that Strange doesn't really agree with Anti-Registration as far as it's being handled. With the responsibilities as Earth's Sorcerer Supreme, he tends to only deal in fights that mean Armaggeddon if he's not involved. It's obvious Strange doesn't agree with either side, but if you had to place him on a side, it's going to be anti-registration, though only in philosophy.

And Strange totally owned Galactus there. But it's been done. Now I want to see Strange actually defeating Galactus.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

he had no choice on the reveal. Tony put it to him in a very all or nothing kind of way. It was I can't have my employee not unmask. therefore unmask or get out of stark tower. The accomodation was conditional on being an avenger.

Also tony has extensively used that accomodation to guilt pete into doing what he wants. He was there when pete needed him but giving someone your spare room is not the same as asking someone to put their family in danger just to support your soapboxing

I'm sure to some degree, Tony used Pete's guilt, but it was definitely Pete's choice. Tony didn't totally pressure him into it.

It wasn't under threat of eviction from his current home.

 

[opppirme]

i think when it all end thors going to be part of the new f4 thats why i think hes already in the book replaceing thing

 

[bengus]

Spidey had a choice. He considered his options if he didn't support the thing before the reveal. Tony pushed his buttons though, but it was his choice.

Peter was never high on conviction to a cause, he always has had doubts about everything he does. I'm pretty sure we can name a story or two where this has happened.

When Tony puts his mind into something - he never doubts, that's the main difference between him and Peter. His tremendous focus overrides a lot, even friendships (like in Armor Wars). I think Tony understands Peter enough to trust him, pushing him in the direction he wants.

 

[Miss Webb]

Please! NO MORE THOR IMITATIONS, lookalikes, and wannabes. Gkk, I had a bellyfull of those imitators. Never understood Marvel's fascination with replicating the Thunder God so much, like he was a suit anyone could wear.

 

[The Leaguer]

Actually, he's just a hammer that a quite a few people can hold.

A series of Thors makes sense to me.