Sequels What the public wants!

Yeah, I guess its how the writer wants to twist it. I just hope they decide to make X4.
 
I want

  • More characterisation
  • less characters
  • Realistic and real world setting but with a lighter side
  • No terrible dialogue, silly action one liners
  • Redoing the phoenix to get the full effect
  • Emma, Havok, Poloris, Wanda, Pietro or Northstar.
  • A slight political background
 
DrChronic said:
Not necessarly, Rogue now lost her powers would do anything to regain them after iceman loses her turst. So she goes on the run only stumbling upon gambit who has had his powers advanced and tells of mr sinister who is his kind of boss. Rogue and Gambit for a bond and soon lust for each other. Rogue undergos Sinisters undoing of the cure but her mind is slightly warped into helping Sinisters plans. However how can the x-men fight against rogue who is good. Unlike pyro, she is aiding sinisters cause but not becuase she is thinking sainly.

Isn't this a little Apocalypsey? This could happen to Angel. That i would like to see. And i'd like to see Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch too.
 
theres loads of ways around it, but the way i see it, Rogue's lost her powers Angel still has his wings.

My idea would have Sinister within the first two movies recruit the four horsemen and have apocaylpse and sinister at the end with a war of the worlds kind of showdown... Rogue would make a good horsemen, with gambit, angel sorry Archangel. and oh lets say a ultimate verson of Bishop
 
Phoenix was done wrong...but it was done...

Please, never bring jean back to life again. If they do it will completely devalue death in the movies (keep in mind, that in the movies Phoenix is NOT an alien entity).

I say its time to go a little more fantastical. Bring in a much different Mr Sinister, who kills Storm in the very first scene. I'd have Sinisters powers be flight, strength and invulnerability, different yes, but this is a movie, not the comics. I'd bring back Nightcrawler, and I'd barely even mention Professor X, since that silly mind transfer was just stupid. Id have Magneto take over the school (with minimal powers) after realizing that hes made some mistakes. Sinister would abduct Angel, Pyro and anyone else you want to pick tto make a 4 horsemen for a future film. Sinister would absolutely trash the X Men (and no cyclops please, he is dead) and eventually Rogues powers are returning and she realizes that the only way to beat Sinister is to steal his powers permantently to de-power him so the others can stop him. As hes dying he reveals that he was only preparing the world for the Apocalypse.
 
jean should be brought back, she should be redeemed just like in the comics...somehow...i don't think halle berry would agree to be killed in the very first scene, as for nightcrawler, why didn't alan cumming come back in the first place, if it was because of the make-up, surely they told him how bad it would be before he signed on, i say bring back professor x too...somehow...that idea of him being an outcast in the comics is just ridiculous, not wanted at his own mansion, puh-lease, it's his ****ing mansion, magneto should no way take over the school, he's far too evil in the movies, there's no way the magneto of the movies can be redeemed, i wish they hadn't treated him so dark but they did so, there ya go, anyway, as for cyclops, he was barely in the first three movies anyway, i don't think anyone'd even notice if he was in the 4th one or not, good idea though rogue stealing sinister's powers at the end so she has the same powers as in the comics, though i always thought they were too superman like anyway, like rogue was marvel's answer to supergirl
 
^Alan Cummings didn't come back because he wanted more cash. A shame really, Nightcrawler really was a great character in X2.
 
Lemme round out what the new trilogy needs:

Xmen:

Storm, Beast, Iceman, Rouge, Collosus (this is the core, you can't have sequels without them)

New/returning members

Cyclops (can be brouhgt back just as easily as he was killed off)
Gambit (new badass)
Wolverine (small but significant role... has a subplot in the sequels)
Emma Frost (brings too much to the table... cannot be ignored)

Young Xmen:

Kitty
Jubilee
Havoc
Angel

Villains:

Hellfire Club (good plot to bring back Cyke)
Sinister (ANother way to bring Cyke back)
Apocalypse
Graydon Creed
Sentinels
Omega Red (one of my personal favorites... needs an appearance somewhere since he won't be in the Spinoff)
 
Wow, just wow. Alan didn't come back because at the time Singer was in charge of X3, he didn't sign a contract. They did not get along, at all. And Alan hated the make-up process. There have been so many quotes from Alan about that.

I don't know if any one here knows the process of making a movie, but the actors are the last people to see the script and they are bound by it. Stop blaming them, and yes I'm talking about Berry.

It would be the same as blaming Famke for, "I dunno {shrug carelessly} or James for, "Storm, fry 'em," while being inside a giant copper statue.

First and foremost, a change in writing is essential for any resemblance of the characterization of the source material. People who know and understand that there is more to the X-men than just Jean, Rogue, and Wolverine. That Mags and Xavier are more than MLK Jr, and Malcolm X. Writers who know that Scott and Storm lead, and to not have them be efficient wise and successfl leaders is to take away from their character.

This is why I never want to waste my time on another X-film. NONE of them got it right. Too much was cut, not enough was put in, few people actually mattered, to many extras, too much forced emotion, not enough fun, way way to much blah...

They need a tv series. End of story.
 
On the debate of whether Jean should return again, I am completely torn.

On one hand, I love Jean Grey (Famke is simply brilliant) and during the X-Men films, I catch myself wondering when the next scene involving her will be. "Oh this fight scene is cool, I wonder when Jean will...Oh there she is!'

Then again, she's already died, risen, and then died once again. To bring her back again would be redundant and I feel that audiences would be like "Holy crap, doesn't she stay dead?!?"

I would love to see Famke return (I don't care if it is even that convincing), but I feel that the masses wouldn't respond well to it.
 
Goddessreicho said:
Wow, just wow. Alan didn't come back because at the time Singer was in charge of X3, he didn't sign a contract. They did not get along, at all. And Alan hated the make-up process. There have been so many quotes from Alan about that.

I don't know if any one here knows the process of making a movie, but the actors are the last people to see the script and they are bound by it. Stop blaming them, and yes I'm talking about Berry.

It would be the same as blaming Famke for, "I dunno {shrug carelessly} or James for, "Storm, fry 'em," while being inside a giant copper statue.

First and foremost, a change in writing is essential for any resemblance of the characterization of the source material. People who know and understand that there is more to the X-men than just Jean, Rogue, and Wolverine. That Mags and Xavier are more than MLK Jr, and Malcolm X. Writers who know that Scott and Storm lead, and to not have them be efficient wise and successfl leaders is to take away from their character.

This is why I never want to waste my time on another X-film. NONE of them got it right. Too much was cut, not enough was put in, few people actually mattered, to many extras, too much forced emotion, not enough fun, way way to much blah...

They need a tv series. End of story.

In the end that may just be the only way to do the X-men any (live-action) justice. Unfortunately, it would be a very expensive tv show to produce and would have to rake in a ton of advertising dollars to prevent cancellation (I remember CBS complaining how the cost of the sfx for the Flash were just to expensive. Though popular, the show just wasn't taking in enough advertisement dollars to offset the cost). I'm thinking miniseries possibly.
 
Goddessreicho said:
Wow, just wow. Alan didn't come back because at the time Singer was in charge of X3, he didn't sign a contract. They did not get along, at all. And Alan hated the make-up process. There have been so many quotes from Alan about that.

No. That's not right. Cumming didn't return because the writers couldn't come up with anything worthwhile for Nightcrawler to do. Besides, he was contractually obligated to film X-Men 3 whether he wanted to or not. He's stated numerous times, both before and after Singer's departure, that he was ready to get the film over with, but Fox did not pick up his contract option.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=1701

http://www.superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=2517

http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=3165
 
Silvermoth said:
I want

  • More characterisation
  • less characters
  • Realistic and real world setting but with a lighter side
  • No terrible dialogue, silly action one liners
  • Redoing the phoenix to get the full effect
  • Emma, Havok, Poloris, Wanda, Pietro or Northstar.
  • A slight political background

agreed!! :woot:
 
1 - Reboot the series with the original team minus Iceman and throw in Storm just to not have only one girl (always was creeped out by that, lol). Oh, also make sure that the good guys get a LEGIT victory at the end of the first outing. Kinda helps with the credibility thingie. Oh yeah, and doing justice to the characters' prowess. That too.


2 - To hell with adding more than one or two X-Men per movie.

Fine, so Wolvie and Rogue for the first movie was nice. Throw in Gambit (bad guy on Mags' side in the first, taken in by X-Men at the end of the movie) and Iceman (nod to the original team) for the second. That's it. No newbie for the third.

The whole point of a third movie is to TIE UP PLOTLINES, not add botched new ones and give new characters cheap meaningless cameos.


3 - Focus on adding villains so the heroes have to adapt and become better at what they do. Adding new members with more "diverse" powers does not necessarily qualify as cool nor interesting. Also, with more villains, the team might have to split. Thus making sure certain characters don't chew on the scenery and that, ya know, heroes use actual TACTICS.


4 - Proper characterization has already been mentioned, so I'll just mention it and leave it at that.


5 - And for crying out loud, the very first flashback of the series shouldn't be about Magneto's childhood. It should be about young X-Men getting their a$$$es kicked by Mags to give a sense of, ya know, the ONGOING FEUD BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL which just happens to be a major f****n theme in any x-verse.


Either that or just leave the x-verse alone, really. :D
 

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