Homecoming What to do with Spider-Man... AGAIN?!?!?!

[Thundercrack85]

It's a trilogy. They're not self-contained.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

Use The Spectacular Spider-Man as a guide.

 

[Web-Head]

Use The Spectacular Spider-Man as a guide.

This

 

[Thundercrack85]

It's really incredible how much that show managed to do.

 

[ernesth100]

New Villains. More of Peters friends.

 

[The Infernal]

Spin a web. Any size.

 

[AF3619]

It's very sad to see it go so wrong for ASM. Absolute truth, I had tears in my eyes when I saw the full trailer for Amazing Spider-Man. He was wise cracking in the back of the cab, the swinging was practical and looked real, he was dodging bullets. Oh well.

yeah, they changed the concept from "let´s do the ground aspect everybody loves from TDK" to " let´s do a colorful and fun universe (but not really)" in a blink of an eye...

 

[AF3619]

Use The Spectacular Spider-Man as a guide.

from what Feige has said and the fact that he is in highschool i think they will

 

[harryoscop]

Use The Spectacular Spider-Man as a guide.

This.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

It really irks me that great shows like Earth's Mightiest Heroes and Spectacular Spider-Man were canned and replaced by awful followups. I know in the case of SSM it was a rights issue, but it still doesn't make me feel any less bitter about it.

 

[Daltonio]

Please none of the anti-ASM crap. It did do interesting, new things and borrow well from the source material as did Raimi's.

It doesn't matter what the topic is, some of these people will take any and every opportunity to bash them, lol.

Anyways, it's a bit of a tough question, they really have used a lot already. Stay away from villains we've already used, don't try and re-do Gwen. If they're really going back to high school, then really delve into it and don't end it in one movie like both other series.

 

[Thundercrack85]

The fact that the new series are as bad as they are is what gets me.

 

[Decepticonus]

I like that.

What I think the Webb movies did well was that they actually hinted at other villains. With the Raimi film, each villain's backstory was confined to the movie they were in.

That's a good thing. You're watching a movie not a television episode.

No, it shows a lack of foresight, and a rather lack of imagination. Three lab accidents in a row? What are the odds of that?

I'm saying the movies should be self contained and have a beginning, middle and end. Three lab accidents has nothing to do with that.

I think Nolan did a good job in creating each Batman as part of a trilogy but as stand alone film. I get what you mean by this is a movie and not a television show and I agree. Let us use Raimi's as an example, I kind hate it when villains are killed off. They don't HAVE to be used again, I don't expect them to but it's nice to know they still exist within the setting. Heck, they could be referenced like Spider-Man 3 MJ could be like "Peter why were you late?" "Oh I'm sorry Doc Ock was causing trouble down town." I want this large expansive setting, As in Webb's they had Alistar Smythe working at Oscorp in a minor role.

 

[Decepticonus]

It doesn't matter what the topic is, some of these people will take any and every opportunity to bash them, lol.

Anyways, it's a bit of a tough question, they really have used a lot already. Stay away from villains we've already used, don't try and re-do Gwen. If they're really going back to high school, then really delve into it and don't end it in one movie like both other series.

True, even though I liked her more in both the comics and the films. Hated Kirsten Dunst and overall just tired of MJ in the comics. Can we just instead use Anna Marconi? Yeah, I know she's Superior Spider-Man/Doc Ock's girl but she's 10x more amazing!
That is if we go the romance route, but I rather we not. Only do it if you have a good solid story with it, dont add it for the sake of ....of... "reasons" or just to hook the female audience, cause you don't need that anymore.

 

[CaptainWagner]

It doesn't matter what the topic is, some of these people will take any and every opportunity to bash them, lol.

Anyways, it's a bit of a tough question, they really have used a lot already. Stay away from villains we've already used, don't try and re-do Gwen. If they're really going back to high school, then really delve into it and don't end it in one movie like both other series.

I agree with most everything you said, except I REALLY don't want them to avoid Gwen just because of Stone's preformance. Yes, she was perfect, but Peter's story NEEDS Gwen.

 

[harryoscop]

I agree with most everything you said, except I REALLY don't want them to avoid Gwen just because of Stone's preformance. Yes, she was perfect, but Peter's story NEEDS Gwen.

Exactly! Stone's performance shouldn't influence what Marvel does with the character.

 

[SpiceyOnion]

I think they should focus on his life in highschool. It's important that they make Peter deal with everyday teenager problems, while also juggling his secret life as a crime fighter. I also don't want them to shy away from romance. Yes, it was done before, but it is aI'd say have him start small with street crimes leading up to Kingpin as the main baddy in 1, while introducing the Osborns as well as Mary Jane and Gwen.

It is unfortunate that Spider-man has been rebooted 3 times in 15 years, and I think their is plenty of new ground for them to cover. But I also don't want to shy away from staple characters and villains just because they've been done before. If told well and in a fresh way they can still be engaging.

 

[spider-neil]

The Nolan movies work as standalone movies and also as part of a trilogy. And that is how the new Spider-Man movies should work. If they want to spend ages setting things up they should make a TV series.

 

[drod1985]

The previous five movies using so much of the most well known source material is a bit troubling. I hope they have the balls to try something totally new and not retread any characters/story lines till the second MCU Spidey installment. I'm sure they've got a plan though. In Feige I trust.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Use The Spectacular Spider-Man as a guide.

This.

But to add to that, the main template that Weisman/Cook used in making that show were the 5 C's: Contemporary, Cohesive, Classic, Coherent and iConic.

In other words, make changes to the source and update them for a new audience without losing what made those original stories so great in the first place.

Build up the world around Peter Parker and develop his many side characters both allies and villains (introduce them early and often), avoid the romance plague that was the central theme in the past 5 movies, show the origin in well-placed flashbacks, and properly present the duality between Peter and Spidey.

It really irks me that great shows like Earth's Mightiest Heroes and Spectacular Spider-Man were canned and replaced by awful followups. I know in the case of SSM it was a rights issue, but it still doesn't make me feel any less bitter about it.

I'm right there with you. It sucks. TSSM was a rights issue, yeah, but the horrible follow-up makes it even worse.

And the reasons Loeb gave for cancelling EMH was like a punch in the nuts. So, stupid how animated shows and/or features are treated. The execs think, "well it's just a show for kids", so they can cancel them at any moment and replace them.

 

[Decepticonus]

This.

But to add to that, the main template that Weisman/Cook used in making that show were the 5 C's: Contemporary, Cohesive, Classic, Coherent and iConic.

Ummm excuse me that's the 4 C's and an I. NAZI GRAMMAR ENGAGE!

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Ummm excuse me that's the 4 C's and an I. NAZI GRAMMAR ENGAGE!

Notice how I capitalized the 'C' in iConic...per Weisman, yes, it's an 'I' however there's a hard-C sound with the pronunciation of the word iconic. That's his reasoning.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

This.

But to add to that, the main template that Weisman/Cook used in making that show were the 5 C's: Contemporary, Cohesive, Classic, Coherent and iConic.

In other words, make changes to the source and update them for a new audience without losing what made those original stories so great in the first place.

Build up the world around Peter Parker and develop his many side characters both allies and villains (introduce them early and often), avoid the romance plague that was the central theme in the past 5 movies, show the origin in well-placed flashbacks, and properly present the duality between Peter and Spidey.

All of this, and we'll have the Spider-Man movie we've always wanted. I think it's really cool that according to reports, this time around they're shining light on the struggles of being Peter at 15, but also being Spider-Man at 15, rather than the romance--it's going to be very refreshing, but they have to find a way to sort of sneak romance in as I think it'll feel weird to have a Spider-Man story with 0% romance.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

I remember mentioning some of this stuff at the TASM2 threads long before that movie came out, but I'd like to see some "innovative Spider-Man storytelling" this time around. What I mean by that is things like maybe shooting and showcasing the combat in a way we've never seen before, try something completely different with the web swinging (again, maybe shooting it differently--I really enjoyed the practical swinging in TASM albeit very brief), stylizing aspects of the movie in certain ways. If you can imagine the certain charm that Guardians of the Galaxy has, and somehow injecting that into a Spider-Man movie in its own way--just to make it a fun Spider-Man movie.

 

[PeterBenParker]

they have to find a way to sort of sneak romance in as I think it'll feel weird to have a Spider-Man story with 0% romance.

Simple, add a small crush subplot. Maybe Peter likes Liz Allen, or have some girl crush on Peter to whom he's oblivious to. I don't want to see full-on romance while he's in high school, so something small like that would be serviceable enough.

Obviously you can't abandon romance completely due to how important it is to the Spidey mythos, but we certainly need a break from it after the past 5 films.