Whatever Marvel does next will suck...

[Gamma Ray]

Anyone can make a movie about a superhero going around saving the world, and most superhero movies are that way. It's getting so boring and repetitive. I'm not saying that I don't like action, but these characters have so much more to tell. That's why I loved HULK so much. It was deep. There was so much to it. So much to think about. Even the nanomeds back story was well-thought out. It was a fascinating take on the original story, with some amazing CGI and action to boot.

But I fear for the future. After seeing all of the crap coming from "The House of Ideas" lately, I can't help but be afraid. I fear that the next Hulk film, if they ever decide to make another one, will just be a mindless action film completely unattached and unrelated to the original. It sounds like they plan on changing the Hulk's appearance as well. Nothing good can come of these plans, which is why I say whatever Marvel does next will suck...

It's not really Marvel's fault though... It's the audience, I think. Intellectual movie-goers don't go to films like HULK, and casual movie-goers (who are this film's main audience) just want non-stop mindless action. That's why X3 made money and why Fantastic 4 is getting a sequel while films like this are left hanging. Is there any way we can get another meaningful Hulk film?

 

[Symbiote Hulk]

One word: Sequel

 

[Gamma Ray]

One word: Sequel

Umm... Not sure what you are trying to say, but that meant nothing to me...

 

[Weadazoid]

Anyone can make a movie about a superhero going around saving the world, and most superhero movies are that way. It's getting so boring and repetitive. I'm not saying that I don't like action, but these characters have so much more to tell. That's why I loved HULK so much. It was deep. There was so much to it. So much to think about. Even the nanomeds back story was well-thought out. It was a fascinating take on the original story, with some amazing CGI and action to boot.

But I fear for the future. After seeing all of the crap coming from "The House of Ideas" lately, I can't help but be afraid. I fear that the next Hulk film, if they ever decide to make another one, will just be a mindless action film completely unattached and unrelated to the original. It sounds like they plan on changing the Hulk's appearance as well. Nothing good can come of these plans, which is why I say whatever Marvel does next will suck...

It's not really Marvel's fault though... It's the audience, I think. Intellectual movie-goers don't go to films like HULK, and casual movie-goers (who are this film's main audience) just want non-stop mindless action. That's why X3 made money and why Fantastic 4 is getting a sequel while films like this are left hanging. Is there any way we can get another meaningful Hulk film?

soooooooooo...


Ghost Rider is gonna Suck?

Spiderman 3 is gonna Suck?

 

[Ions]

Spiderman 3 is gonna Suck?

Sam Raimi.
I hate Spider-man, yet I enjoyed Spider-man 2. Sam is some kind of movie making genius.
Though I doubt any of the other Marvel films will end up good. Maybe profitable, but not exactly highly rated films.
But that's just my opinion not some broad concept that is being expressed through the creation of a thread...*cough*

 

[Gamma Ray]

soooooooooo...


Ghost Rider is gonna Suck?

Spiderman 3 is gonna Suck?

It depends on how they go about making them. Spider-man is already successful and they know where they want to go with it. You clearly missed the point of my post. While HULK was mildly successful, they have no idea what they should do now. As a result, I think the film will be a messy action flick with no psychological perspective or continuity to the first film.

 

[Weadazoid]

oh...


Didn't know you were confining this suck thing to the Hulk franchise

 

[Symbiote Hulk]

Anyone can make a movie about a superhero going around saving the world, and most superhero movies are that way. It's getting so boring and repetitive. I'm not saying that I don't like action, but these characters have so much more to tell. That's why I loved HULK so much. It was deep. There was so much to it. So much to think about. Even the nanomeds back story was well-thought out. It was a fascinating take on the original story, with some amazing CGI and action to boot.

But I fear for the future. After seeing all of the crap coming from "The House of Ideas" lately, I can't help but be afraid. I fear that the next Hulk film, if they ever decide to make another one, will just be a mindless action film completely unattached and unrelated to the original. It sounds like they plan on changing the Hulk's appearance as well. Nothing good can come of these plans, which is why I say whatever Marvel does next will suck...

It's not really Marvel's fault though... It's the audience, I think. Intellectual movie-goers don't go to films like HULK, and casual movie-goers (who are this film's main audience) just want non-stop mindless action. That's why X3 made money and why Fantastic 4 is getting a sequel while films like this are left hanging. Is there any way we can get another meaningful Hulk film?

Sequel

 

[Sava]

All this criticism of Marvel is wrong IMO. Fox are the ones that have made s**t movies, not Marvel. THey have gone the right way with IM and now looks like they are going to right way with Hulk. Just because they want more action doesnt mean the story or the drama will suck.

 

[blind_fury]

The Hulk franchise has alot of potential. Spider-man potential. There's really no reason to settle fot the pretentious and unfocused Ang Lee version.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I LOVE the Ang Lee version, it is the only Marvel movie that so far hasnt followed the same pattern and events of the others, and other than Spiderman 2, it is Marvels last truly great movie.

 

[Sabretooth]

Uhm,Marvel is the one trying to give you another Hulk movie. If you want to blame somebody,blame Universal and blame Fox.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Uhm,Marvel is the one trying to give you another Hulk movie. If you want to blame somebody,blame Universal and blame Fox.

Dont get me wrong i hate Fox, but, they have NOTHING to do with any Hulk movie. And IMO what Marvel are doing with this project is WRONG.

 

[Shockdingo]

Do we even have any details? I think it's kind of sudden to say "What Marvel is doing with this project is wrong" I could be wrong, but I don't think we know jack diddly yet....

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Do we even have any details? I think it's kind of sudden to say "What Marvel is doing with this project is wrong" I could be wrong, but I don't think we know jack diddly yet....

Every bit of info we have points to a re-make, and IMO that is a WRONG decision.

 

[Symbiote Hulk]

Every bit of info we have points to a re-make, and IMO that is a WRONG decision.

Especially if 2/3 of hulk fans want a sequel.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Especially if 2/3 of hulk fans want a sequel.

Exactly, i want a Hulk re-make as much as i want my penis to shrink.

 

[Shockdingo]

Ugh. ... a remake? Man then I don't know what I was talking about, now I'm worried :\

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Ugh. ... a remake? Man then I don't know what I was talking about, now I'm worried :\

As of now we dont know for sure, the last few reports have strongly suggested a re-make, and another coupld have suggested sequel, i think it is fairly certain Bana wont be returning, but we dont know anything for sure yet.

 

[BatFitz]

A remake wouldn't make sense to anyone else but us fanboys...the average audience would get really confused because it's only been three years since an origin story was told...I say sequel...but do it differently...

 

[weezerspider]

But I fear for the future. After seeing all of the crap coming from "The House of Ideas" lately, I can't help but be afraid. I fear that the next Hulk film, if they ever decide to make another one, will just be a mindless action film completely unattached and unrelated to the original. It sounds like they plan on changing the Hulk's appearance as well. Nothing good can come of these plans, which is why I say whatever Marvel does next will suck...

Sounds like a perfect Hulk movie to me. Face it, Hulk's s monster. Mindless Action is his thing. It works for regulr movie-goers. Superhero's save people and fight the bad guys. Thats their gig. Ang lee's story was good, but it had no comic releif and had little action. They could use the same story just add some spice to it and BAM! Great. ANd if you take this offensive, I'm sorry. Don't mean to sound like an ass or anything.

 

[Mr.T]

Ang Lee's Hulk is pretty decent and has a good story, IMO. I think what killed the movie was the crappy CGI version of the Hulk. It took away from the "believability" of the movie. They just have to give the viewer a hint of reality regarding the main character to suck them in. Soemthing the green Hulk lacked. A 5 year old watching the movie couldn't take that CGI rendered monstrosity seriously.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Ang Lee's Hulk is pretty decent and has a good story, IMO. I think what killed the movie was the crappy CGI version of the Hulk. It took away from the "believability" of the movie. They just have to give the viewer a hint of reality regarding the main character to suck them in. Soemthing the green Hulk lacked. A 5 year old watching the movie couldn't take that CGI rendered monstrosity seriously.

Your having a giraffe arent you mate, you want bad CGI? Try the Scorpion King in Mummy Returns, THATS bad CGI, the Hulk was light years beyond that.

 

[Abaddon]

I thought the CGI was well done.

 

[Mr. Walters]

Anyone can make a movie about a superhero going around saving the world, and most superhero movies are that way. It's getting so boring and repetitive. I'm not saying that I don't like action, but these characters have so much more to tell. That's why I loved HULK so much. It was deep. There was so much to it. So much to think about. Even the nanomeds back story was well-thought out. It was a fascinating take on the original story, with some amazing CGI and action to boot.

But I fear for the future. After seeing all of the crap coming from "The House of Ideas" lately, I can't help but be afraid. I fear that the next Hulk film, if they ever decide to make another one, will just be a mindless action film completely unattached and unrelated to the original. It sounds like they plan on changing the Hulk's appearance as well. Nothing good can come of these plans, which is why I say whatever Marvel does next will suck...

It's not really Marvel's fault though... It's the audience, I think. Intellectual movie-goers don't go to films like HULK, and casual movie-goers (who are this film's main audience) just want non-stop mindless action. That's why X3 made money and why Fantastic 4 is getting a sequel while films like this are left hanging. Is there any way we can get another meaningful Hulk film?

I couldn't agree more. But, I must however admit, that I really enjoyed Fantastic Four. But, yeah I see where you are coming from. I am one of the few people who liked Hulk because it was deeper than usual comic book films and thought provoking. Was I pissed that they strayed so far from the original origin? Yes, but this is a movie. If you want the tale of the gamma bomb and Rick Jones, then read the comics people! As a movie I thought Hulk worked well, but I agree, the audience was this movie's biggest downfall. I am not sure what Ang Lee's target audience was, but he missed. I enjoy Hulk, but I think it could have been better, but it could have been far worse. Today's movie audiences are mindless drones seeking action, t*ts and a$$, cursing, and things blowing up. This is especially true for the type of people that would watch Hulk. (Sorry if I offened anyone, but hey, if the shoe fits...) You say that Hulk was an intelectual film and went over the heads of some people just wanting to see Hulk smash, and I agree. However, I don't blame the audience as much as I blame the filmmakers. I thought the Spider-Man films were both intelectual, yet managed to have a decent balance of action as well. Another meaningful Hulk film? To do that my friend, we need, at least in my opinion, a new director. I think Ang Lee is a very compentant director but I think he was wrong for Hulk. The Hulk's story is difficult to tell, since it is hard to relate to. Tackle it as a tale of a man coming to grips with his split personality disorder and it might work. Heck, that synopsis sounds like an Oscar winner.

My problem with Hulk is that it seems to be all over the place. I am not sure what Lee was trying to tell us. The film confuses me, which is why I watch it often. I'm trying to crack it. Like you said, if you don't want to think, don't watch Hulk. But I think had Lee had a more clearer version of the story to compensate for the low attention spans of movie goers the film would have done much better.

To make Hulk fun and thought provoking is not easy, and I can't even pretend to give a formula how to do so, but I like you am worried that a potential sequel could be a two hour Hulk smash a thon that will put me to sleep. Like I said, I different director (and after his huge success with Brokeback Mountain, I highly doubt Lee would return anyway) and who knows? It could end up being better.