Marvel Movies Hulk Was Better Than.

[Mr. Green]

Marvel, in making the sequal of Hulk, pretty much showed that they were dissapointed of Hulk and wanted to move far, far away from that direction. They changed the title from Hulk 2 to The Incredible Hulk, they changed the ENTIRE cast, they changed writers, directors, etc.

But what the hell? How about the movies that Hulk was way better than? Sure, Hulk started off slow. But at least there was a lot of action, and badass action at that, to balance things out. FF hardly had ANY action or that great of a story for that matter. Ditto with FF2 and X3.

So let's name the Marvel movies that Hulk was better than!

Elektra
Daredevil
Spiderman
X-Men
X3
Ghost Rider
Fantastic Four
Fantastic Four 2

Are there any that I didn't put on the list that you would? Are there any that I did put on the list that you didn't? Do you think that maybe if Hulk "deserved" to get a change of cast that maybe FF DEFINATELY deserved it?

Discuss!

 

[Gamma Ray]

Dumb thread...

But add:
Spider-man 2
X-Men 2
and every other Marvel POS

 

[Juha]

The Ang Lee's Hulk tried too hard and failed IMO. I respect Lee's vision, he tried to offer something different and he really wanted to delve into the psychology of Bruce Banner. I think it was an interesting approach but something happened somewhere along the line and the movie got boring and preposterous. Although I have only seen it once so I should check it out again.

Elektra
Daredevil
Spiderman
X-Men
X3
Ghost Rider
Fantastic Four
Fantastic Four 2

When it comes to this list...I haven't seen FF2 but I'm sure it's pretty bad. Also the first FF, Ghost Rider, X3 and Elektra were kinda crappy but only Elektra was worse than The Hulk IMO.

 

[Danny No-Shame]

I went to see The Hulk completly high. And on my own.
I mean the whole cinema was deserted. It was ace.

If a graphic novel was released with the exact same story, people would hail it as a work of art. Sure it was a little slow and the much maligned Dogfight was a bit of a mistake, but it's a peice of cinema that will long outlive most of the others on the above list.

Ang Lee Smash!!!!!

 

[Green Scar]

So let's name the Marvel movies that Hulk was better than!

Elektra
Daredevil
Spiderman
X-Men
X3
Ghost Rider
Fantastic Four
Fantastic Four 2

Discuss!

Not only is this a bad thread (you ang fans are getting desperate on defending your movie) but seriously...Spiderman and Xmen? Both those movies were a lot better then Hulk.

 

[matthooper]

Not only is this a bad thread (you ang fans are getting desperate on defending your movie) but seriously...Spiderman and Xmen? Both those movies were a lot better then Hulk.

They certainly took the thread to far with the inclusion of Spider-Man or Spider-Man 2, but actually, I agree that Hulk was better than most of the other Marvel films listed in the thread including both FF's, and both X-Men films. It was certainly better than Daredevil, Ghostrider, Elektra, any Blade film. It's a misunderstood film, but a prety good one in my opinion.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

For me, Hulk was better than ALL marvel movies except X2 and Spiderman 2.

 

[November Rain]

Hulk was a better film than

spiderman 1.5
spiderman 3
spiderman 2
spiderman 2.4
x-men 3
x-men the last stand
daredevil
daredevil dc
blade trinity
blade
blade 2
elektra
punisher
fantastic four
fantastic four:rise of the silver surfer
ghost rider




the only one it is not better for then is spiderman or x-men but they had a nostalgia run when i watched them.

Hulk has the most repetitive viewing angle and is the only one that gets better with it.

It's cgi is still comparable to today's in a large majority of its scenes
It's the only one that takes its story seriously and doesn't come across as a superhero movie where the good guy does the right thing.

It's the only one that doesn't patronise its audience and probably the only one which manages to truelly show the reactions of a superpowered being in this world and how he deals with it. It also gives a true insight into what it must be like to be bruce banner pre and post hulk and highlights the variations in family dynamics between himself and his father and betty and hers.

It's also the only one where the main female character never kisses the lead during the course of the film yet manages to bring the feeling of the closest love bond of all of them.

It also has some of the best visuals and dialogue.

Personally, i think it's an insightful piece of genius once you take it apart and put it back together again. Sure it's no popcorn flick but i believe a character this complex should never be patronised by being perceived in such a manner.

oh well...

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Hulk was a better film than

spiderman 1.5
spiderman 3
spiderman 2
spiderman 2.4
x-men 3
x-men the last stand
daredevil
daredevil dc
blade trinity
blade
blade 2
elektra
punisher
fantastic four
fantastic four:rise of the silver surfer
ghost rider




the only one it is not better for then is spiderman or x-men but they had a nostalgia run when i watched them.

Hulk has the most repetitive viewing angle and is the only one that gets better with it.

It's cgi is still comparable to today's in a large majority of its scenes
It's the only one that takes its story seriously and doesn't come across as a superhero movie where the good guy does the right thing.

It's the only one that doesn't patronise its audience and probably the only one which manages to truelly show the reactions of a superpowered being in this world and how he deals with it. It also gives a true insight into what it must be like to be bruce banner pre and post hulk and highlights the variations in family dynamics between himself and his father and betty and hers.

It's also the only one where the main female character never kisses the lead during the course of the film yet manages to bring the feeling of the closest love bond of all of them.

It also has some of the best visuals and dialogue.

Personally, i think it's an insightful piece of genius once you take it apart and put it back together again. Sure it's no popcorn flick but i believe a character this complex should never be patronised by being perceived in such a manner.

oh well...

Totally agree with the higlighted parts, Hulk was a great change to the SH norm, that had character development, emotion, and intellegence driving the story rather than action scene's (which are also still stunning).

I also to this day cannot understand how people can complain about the CGI.

 

[co2]

Let's be honest....Hulk was better than most of the new films Marvel has put out. The only ones I might rank above it are X2 and the Spider-man movies (still not sure about Spider-man 3, but I'll be generous). I'd put it on par with the first X-men and Blade.
It was certainly the most artistic Marvel film....although at the same time, that might be what hurts it too.
Aside from the ones I have already mentioned, I liked Punisher, but the rest rank from sub-standard to down right bad....so Hulk still remains in that basket of good Marvel films to me.
And yes, it does get better on subsequent viewings.

 

[YJ1]

Let's be COMPLETELY honest. Hulk was better then Elektra, Ghost Rider and the last two Blades.

THAT'S IT. If you think otherwise, you must be a relative of Ang Lee or a Hulk fan with incredibly Hulk sized blinders on.

 

[co2]

I was being brutally honest and objective. The movie has definitle flaws but to me a movie is the sum of it's parts and there are aspects of that film that I admittedly think are really good.
....And really? You are going to put the vapid Daredeveil, FF movies and even X-men 3 above Hulk? Those movie feel like complete empty fluff to me that I have a hard time putting up to multiple viewings.

 

[alpoc]

i admit, i was disappointed with the hulk the first time i saw it. the beginning was way too slow & technical they could have condensed his history and the science by 30 minutes & i would have been better paced.
however, after viewing the movies the first time, hulk IMO was better then spiderman 3, x3, ghost rider, dare devil, blade 3, ff 1&2, i didn't see elektra.
after repeat viewing, i have come to really like the hulk especially from the hulk out @ the house til the end, so much so that i put it way above spiderman 1. my top marvel comicbook movie is spiderman 2 & then hulk. imo spiderman 2 was just a great movie weather it was about a superhero or not. but the cgi could have been a bit better.

 

[Silver Spider]

I think the only marvel movies hulk was better than are the Punisher, the Blade movies, Electra, and maybe Daredevil.

 

[Vaportrail]

I really do like this movie.
Special effects and Jennifer Connelly aside, I really like this movie.

I forget what scene it was exactly, I think it was inside the house after the dog fight, but I just turned on the TV and there it was. It's the first time I'd really sat down and watched it in a while.

The actors are so good. The dialog is amazing. The story is interesting. The action is cool.



What the hell went wrong? It's a solid film.
I don't think I can compare it to the other Marvel films though. Despite being in the same genre, they're all stylistically different. They do things in Hulk that those other films wouldn't do, and vice versa. Still, I know I'm going to miss Bana/Connelly/Ang Lee's style in the next one.

 

[TomPiltoff]

I just watched it this evening and thought it was great.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

WOW this is a crazy thread if I do say so myself.

 

[chrisfishlock]

i think Hulk was better than Electra and Fantastic Four.

 

[El Payaso]

I think it was better than all of them except Spiderman 2 and X-Men.

 

[Vaportrail]

I demand proof, not lists.

 

[The Joker_1000]

The only movies this movie surpassed was Elektra, Daredevil, & Ghost Rider. Every other Marvel movie is much better than this movie. I even prefer the Fantastic Four movies to the 2003 Hulk. The 2003 Hulk movie had great actors (except Nick Nolte), great CGI, & a somewhat decent story but Ang Lee is what ruined it. I bet that if they got a better director, the same cast (except Nick Nolte), and used virtually the same story except for no Absorbing Man, it'd end up being a lot better than what Ang Lee created.

 

[El Payaso]

The only movies this movie surpassed was Elektra, Daredevil, & Ghost Rider. Every other Marvel movie is much better than this movie. I even prefer the Fantastic Four movies to the 2003 Hulk. The 2003 Hulk movie had great actors (except Nick Nolte), great CGI, & a somewhat decent story but Ang Lee is what ruined it. I bet that if they got a better director, the same cast (except Nick Nolte), and used virtually the same story except for no Absorbing Man, it'd end up being a lot better than what Ang Lee created.

The case is that you have to do far more than change those elements to improve the poor flick that Fantastic Four is.

 

[Neptune]

You guys are nuts! Sure The Hulk wasn't THAT bad but it certainly wasn't better than Spider-Man, X1, X2 and Blade. Come on, those are superhero film classics. X2 is the best Marvel film if you ask me.

 

[Sentinel X]

the only one it is not better for then is spiderman or x-men but they had a nostalgia run when i watched them.

Hulk has the most repetitive viewing angle and is the only one that gets better with it.

It's cgi is still comparable to today's in a large majority of its scenes
It's the only one that takes its story seriously and doesn't come across as a superhero movie where the good guy does the right thing.

It's the only one that doesn't patronise its audience and probably the only one which manages to truelly show the reactions of a superpowered being in this world and how he deals with it. It also gives a true insight into what it must be like to be bruce banner pre and post hulk and highlights the variations in family dynamics between himself and his father and betty and hers.

It's also the only one where the main female character never kisses the lead during the course of the film yet manages to bring the feeling of the closest love bond of all of them.

It also has some of the best visuals and dialogue.

Personally, i think it's an insightful piece of genius once you take it apart and put it back together again. Sure it's no popcorn flick but i believe a character this complex should never be patronised by being perceived in such a manner.

oh well...

Its a really good comic book movie imo.
I enjoyed it...it was different. It didn't follow the same generic formula...as you mention in your post.
And I don't know why people didn't think the split panels were awesome...I loved it!
Its 8.5/10.

....unfortunately, I doubt the new one will be as cool.

 

[Zero_Vault]

I think it might be the same boring, hackeneyed government crap that Hollywood's been feeding us for the past eight years.

Those "thrillers" with AVP style wrestling fights.

But who knows? Let's wait and see.