What's Your Skylar Theory?

^ syalr and mohinders dad are two different people you theory could be possible but ehh


dr. suresh is played by Erick Avari, you can see him on the cover of that book peter petrelli is reading, about human evolution and potential.


and to 8atman i dont have evidance but all i know is he is an experiment. and if he had any family the fbi and cops would have traked them down to find syalr.
 
aphro666 said:
I think I figured out the whole thing.
sylar is the Indian guy's father, the one who was doing all the research. he developed the powers he has, and wanted to know why.
The reason he cuts out the brains is do reserach them, and he gave himself the code name Sylar so as to differentiate the two. if you listen to the message machine tape, both voices sound very similar, as if he was talking to himself, only vaguely disguising teh voice of Sylar.
What might have happened is he went mad after senslessy killing these people, and developed a split personality. And, he was leaving clues, as he knew his son woudl be coming to finish his work. He felt Sylar was taking over, so he had to leave clues here and there for someone to stop him.
The HRG guy knows he was Sylar, and is trying to stop him before he gets to his daughter. he also knows he is not dead.
They were planting the bug thinking the son knows his father is still alive, and wanted to get an idea of where this man is, being as it woudl be pretty logical for the m to be in communication..


Whoa I like that one a lot, that would be very cool.
 
paulyfknt90 said:
^ syalr and mohinders dad are two different people you theory could be possible but ehh


dr. suresh is played by Erick Avari, you can see him on the cover of that book peter petrelli is reading, about human evolution and potential.


and to 8atman i dont have evidance but all i know is he is an experiment. and if he had any family the fbi and cops would have traked them down to find syalr.

I"m sorry but if you have no facts it doesn't really work. You can't say I know it because I said so.
 
NateGray said:
I think you are stretching this TK theory way to thin IMO anyways.

Odds are he may have TK but if he does it is coupled with other powers again IMO anyways.
I have a theory he may not have TK so much as telepathy and controlled the FBI agent's mind to point the gun at her own head regen to get up from being shot and flight when he flew away.
While that is a thin excuse its just as viable as your TK theory since both have holes the real odds are he has TK coupled with multiple other powers that I sepculate he gets from other hero's whose brains he has consumed.

Guess we will have to watch and find out good thing I love this show :)

TK has far fewer holes than simple mind control. Really, if we assume that Sylar is the most adept at his abilities out of the other "heroes," then there really aren't any holes with TK.

GhostPoet said:
Sylar has AT LEAST 2 powers...possibly more.

We know almost certainly he has super strength (in order to life the woman up against the wall and stick her there with knives)
We also know he can freeze people...which is what he seems to like to do before taking out their brains. Or at least in the case of the last guy.

Nope. Lifting the woman can be explained with TK, as could the freezing if he is a very highly skilled telekinetic.
 
paulyfknt90 said:
^ syalr and mohinders dad are two different people you theory could be possible but ehh


dr. suresh is played by Erick Avari, you can see him on the cover of that book peter petrelli is reading, about human evolution and potential.
Which is how I developed my theory. Why would they have the most established actor in the cast play a picture on the back of a book?
That is what gave it away to me last night, it is turning into a typical father vs son emotional dilemna.
 
sc12een17am3 said:
aww mybad totally 4got about that tape

yeah i was thinking that black guy is Nikis husband also. it make sense since they introduced him when Niki and her kid talked about him in this episode. if he is the one that can phase through the walls would that me he has more then one power? cause it seemed that the cop couldnt read his mind
Not true. The man just knows how to keep his head clear or block people from his thoughts. That's all mental, no powers involved. If you're the type who needs a power to explain everything, just say he can have parts of his body "phased out" and they're unreachable in that state (including his mind.)

Spider-Fan83 said:
The black guy (from the bar) is not Niki's husband

that guy (Leonard Roberts) (the one holding the kids hand) is Niki's husband


this is the guy (Jimmy Jean-Louis) is the guy form the bar

just, cause the guy in the bar was black, you assume he has to be the husband

Actually my assumption was based off of the two pictures. The top group one is of lesser quality and the man holding the child's hand is further in the background. At first glance one see's two black males, bald, similar height, build and bone facial structures. Quite an easy mistake at a glance.

NateGray said:
I think you are stretching this TK theory way to thin IMO anyways.

Odds are he may have TK but if he does it is coupled with other powers again IMO anyways.
I have a theory he may not have TK so much as telepathy and controlled the FBI agent's mind to point the gun at her own head regen to get up from being shot and flight when he flew away.
While that is a thin excuse its just as viable as your TK theory since both have holes the real odds are he has TK coupled with multiple other powers that I sepculate he gets from other hero's whose brains he has consumed.

Guess we will have to watch and find out good thing I love this show :)

Telekinsis is a very powerful ability. The ability to "move objects without any physical contact." Take a dictionary and thesaurus and look up "object". Molecules are objects. Most folks think in a very flat manner and don't look at TK as anything more than lifting big things to toss around or to make oneself levitate. It's more than that. I believe it was the Authority that had a telekinetic who could only move very small objects. She was trained as an assassin and used her ability to move a gland within the human brain to kill her subjects. Towards the end of her life, she used her powers to lift thousands of molecules one at a time beneath the surface of Jerusalem to make the soil fertile.

Sometimes thinking big doesn't cut it.

GhostPoet said:
Sylar has AT LEAST 2 powers...possibly more.

We know almost certainly he has super strength (in order to life the woman up against the wall and stick her there with knives)
We also know he can freeze people...which is what he seems to like to do before taking out their brains. Or at least in the case of the last guy.

I'm wondering if The Question is getting sick of typing this as often as I am. Telekinesis can describe both of those phenomenoms. TK to lift and stab and TK to remove the motion of the excited heat molecules in the person to freeze them.

8atman said:
What facts do you have to support your theory or that contradict my theory? You didn't put why you think that it's not peter.

Fact, Peter is empathic. He has a strong connection with his brother from years of contact. Peter would know if his brother was a psychotic serial murder.

Fact, the voice on the tape recorder WAS NOT Nathan by any stretch of voice modulation.

Fact, Nathan has been campaigning in NY for quite some time. Some of the murders have taken place quite a distance off.

Is this satisfactory?

aphro666 said:
I think I figured out the whole thing.
sylar is the Indian guy's father, the one who was doing all the research. he developed the powers he has, and wanted to know why.
The reason he cuts out the brains is do reserach them, and he gave himself the code name Sylar so as to differentiate the two. if you listen to the message machine tape, both voices sound very similar, as if he was talking to himself, only vaguely disguising teh voice of Sylar.
What might have happened is he went mad after senslessy killing these people, and developed a split personality. And, he was leaving clues, as he knew his son woudl be coming to finish his work. He felt Sylar was taking over, so he had to leave clues here and there for someone to stop him.
The HRG guy knows he was Sylar, and is trying to stop him before he gets to his daughter. he also knows he is not dead.
They were planting the bug thinking the son knows his father is still alive, and wanted to get an idea of where this man is, being as it woudl be pretty logical for the m to be in communication..

Split personality would only cause a repeat of Niki. The show at least so far has shown enough taste to NOT do repeat powers.

The Question said:
TK has far fewer holes than simple mind control. Really, if we assume that Sylar is the most adept at his abilities out of the other "heroes," then there really aren't any holes with TK.



Nope. Lifting the woman can be explained with TK, as could the freezing if he is a very highly skilled telekinetic.

Hey are you getting sick of repeating this same line as often as I am?
 
aphro666 said:
Which is how I developed my theory. Why would they have the most established actor in the cast play a picture on the back of a book?
That is what gave it away to me last night, it is turning into a typical father vs son emotional dilemna.

Is he not also the Narrirator? Would they realy have the main villan narrating the intro and ending of each episode?

I think Syler is the cute chick in Seresh's appartment. She was the only one who knew that Seresh went to Syler's appartment (aside for the fact he jimmied the lock). But that is just my shot in the dark guess because it defies logic, and I like cute girls.
 
Doobie88 said:
Is he not also the Narrirator? Would they realy have the main villan narrating the intro and ending of each episode?

I think Syler is the cute chick in Seresh's appartment. She was the only one who knew that Seresh went to Syler's appartment (aside for the fact he jimmied the lock). But that is just my shot in the dark guess because it defies logic, and I like cute girls.
Mohinder is narrating, not his father
 
Doobie88 said:
Is he not also the Narrirator? Would they realy have the main villan narrating the intro and ending of each episode?

I think Syler is the cute chick in Seresh's appartment. She was the only one who knew that Seresh went to Syler's appartment (aside for the fact he jimmied the lock). But that is just my shot in the dark guess because it defies logic, and I like cute girls.
They have been saying all along that this is not yor typical hero show, and who you think is good can actually turn out to be bad. And, with the constant close-ups of the picture (much like the constant close ups of the gun they got from the guy in the hallway, which ends up being the gun hiro finds in the future), you know he is going to reapear, and not how you expect.

And, who is to say that a villain can't be the Narrator? That would make this an extraordinary show, which is what they were trying to do from teh get go.
 
8atman said:
I"m sorry but if you have no facts it doesn't really work. You can't say I know it because I said so.


i never said it was b/c i said so, so ur an ass


i garentee trere is no realation between peter and sylar, yes they have some of the same mimic powers but they dont habe to be realated to have that.


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Mixairian said:
Split personality would only cause a repeat of Niki. The show at least so far has shown enough taste to NOT do repeat powers.
nikki doesn't have a split personality. She has a mirror image that actually can come out of the mirror, thus all the hints at "being in 2 places at once".
Think multiple man, only slightly different.

Edit: quoted wrong person
 
aphro666 said:
nikki doesn't have a split personality. She has a mirror image that actually can come out of the mirror, thus all the hints at "being in 2 places at once".
Think multiple man, only slightly different.

Edit: quoted wrong person
That hasn't been quite confirmed. What has been confirmed is that when that other person/her power is active, she blacks out. This is a common trait in diassociative identity disorder.

Also note in episode 2 after running away from the dead mafia men, she blacks out for 4 hours and has a new set of clothing on as well as having her mess cleaned.

So far the proof is for one body. Though a mirror body could also work though the one thing that still applies is that she has two identities.
 
I haven't a different theory on Sylar. I believe he is Peter......Peter from the future. Think about it.....

What if when all of the heroes meet, Peter absorbs all of their powers, including but not limited to flight, indestructiblity, time traveling ability, and the evil side of Nikki. He hates what he has become and decides to travel back in time to destroy all of those who made him what he is.

In the Greek language, Sylar means Peter. Well, just kidding about that last part, but if it did then I would be right. :woot:
 
I respectfully disagree with the entirety on your theory aphro666.

1) Mohinder listened to a recorded phone conversation between his father and Sylar. Sylar's voice was very different from Mohinder's father's *and* Mohinder's for that matter. They used two different actors for two different voices.

2) Mohinder's dad believed Sylar was Patient Zero. According to Sylar's account the professor awakened Sylar to powers but now he has an "uncontrollable hunger." I just don't buy that it's a case of split personality. Why can't it be what it seems?
 
The Question said:
TK has far fewer holes than simple mind control. Really, if we assume that Sylar is the most adept at his abilities out of the other "heroes," then there really aren't any holes with TK.



Nope. Lifting the woman can be explained with TK, as could the freezing if he is a very highly skilled telekinetic.

TK is thin because you are stretching it that somehow TK stopped the bullets but they still knockled him down.
Thats not any better than telepathy and regen and flight theory the only flaw in my theory is the way she is pushed to the wall.
As for holes I think TK alone definatly has holes and even though he may have telepathy I am betting he has regen flight and TK as well.
 
Mixairian said:
Not true. The man just knows how to keep his head clear or block people from his thoughts. That's all mental, no powers involved. If you're the type who needs a power to explain everything, just say he can have parts of his body "phased out" and they're unreachable in that state (including his mind.)



Actually my assumption was based off of the two pictures. The top group one is of lesser quality and the man holding the child's hand is further in the background. At first glance one see's two black males, bald, similar height, build and bone facial structures. Quite an easy mistake at a glance.



Telekinsis is a very powerful ability. The ability to "move objects without any physical contact." Take a dictionary and thesaurus and look up "object". Molecules are objects. Most folks think in a very flat manner and don't look at TK as anything more than lifting big things to toss around or to make oneself levitate. It's more than that. I believe it was the Authority that had a telekinetic who could only move very small objects. She was trained as an assassin and used her ability to move a gland within the human brain to kill her subjects. Towards the end of her life, she used her powers to lift thousands of molecules one at a time beneath the surface of Jerusalem to make the soil fertile.

Sometimes thinking big doesn't cut it.



I'm wondering if The Question is getting sick of typing this as often as I am. Telekinesis can describe both of those phenomenoms. TK to lift and stab and TK to remove the motion of the excited heat molecules in the person to freeze them.



Fact, Peter is empathic. He has a strong connection with his brother from years of contact. Peter would know if his brother was a psychotic serial murder.

Fact, the voice on the tape recorder WAS NOT Nathan by any stretch of voice modulation.

Fact, Nathan has been campaigning in NY for quite some time. Some of the murders have taken place quite a distance off.

Is this satisfactory?



Split personality would only cause a repeat of Niki. The show at least so far has shown enough taste to NOT do repeat powers.



Hey are you getting sick of repeating this same line as often as I am?

Well when you are wrong and refuse to admit it I guess you would be sick of saying the same wrong tripe over and over again.

TK CANNOT expalin how he was KNOCKED down from the bullets kktnx nice try.
As for TK stopping bullets I think you are Matrixing/Xmening TK you looked it up so hmmm one would think you would grasp how impossible it would be to stop a bullet using TK, you know a bullet that travels faster than the eye can see....
And we will not even mention he pumped like 5 rounds into him.
 
Leto said:
I respectfully disagree with the entirety on your theory aphro666.

1) Mohinder listened to a recorded phone conversation between his father and Sylar. Sylar's voice was very different from Mohinder's father's *and* Mohinder's for that matter. They used two different actors for two different voices.

2) Mohinder's dad believed Sylar was Patient Zero. According to Sylar's account the professor awakened Sylar to powers but now he has an "uncontrollable hunger." I just don't buy that it's a case of split personality. Why can't it be what it seems?
because they have been messing with our heads for three weeks straight
 
NateGray said:
TK is thin because you are stretching it that somehow TK stopped the bullets but they still knockled him down.
Thats not any better than telepathy and regen and flight theory the only flaw in my theory is the way she is pushed to the wall.
As for holes I think TK alone definatly has holes and even though he may have telepathy I am betting he has regen flight and TK as well.

Bullets move at over 30k MPH (I gotta find my old notes for the exact number). I believe themore accurate measurement is 1500/3000 feet per second but people understand MPH better. Anyhow, it's feesable that he stopped the bullets but because he was doing two things at once (trying to get the female to shoot herself), was caught off guard and the force of the bullets caused him to stop them but not as efficiently. Instead of the bullets penetrating his flesh and killing him, the effect was as if he was wearing a bullet proof vest... Which still hurts like hell and has the force to knock people over. Hollywood/Movies have ruined that aspect of getting shot.

Let's dumb this down a bit. View telekinesis as an invisible hand that when you want to move something, picks the object up and moves it to where it needs to be. That is the most simplest way to look at TK. The most rudimentary form.

Now what happens if instead of using that "hand" to grab we just put in front of someone to block their path. A "wall" of you will.

All Sylar would have to do is have that wall in front of him. The speed/force of the bullets could explain the effect that the wall slowed the bullets down to prevent the killing effect when they struck his body.

One could argue that how could Sylar be fast enough to put said wall up, considering the speed of the bullets but Matt did "appear" first and then fire. We also can work under the assumption that to do such a thing has become instinct for Sylar as he has been using for the longest out of all the characters that we've seen thus far.

TK.

NateGray said:
Well when you are wrong and refuse to admit it I guess you would be sick of saying the same wrong tripe over and over again.

TK CANNOT expalin how he was KNOCKED down from the bullets kktnx nice try.
As for TK stopping bullets I think you are Matrixing/Xmening TK you looked it up so hmmm one would think you would grasp how impossible it would be to stop a bullet using TK, you know a bullet that travels faster than the eye can see....
And we will not even mention he pumped like 5 rounds into him.

I guess you're right, I have no way of---oh wait, the post right above this quote has the answer!

kkthnxggbaibai

((I was going to respond with some dignity and grace but I'm a gamer at heart and all taunts bring that out. :) ))
 
i thought it could be nathan for a while as well. but it really doesn't make sense. he's already a "shark" politician. why have him become more of an ---hole by making him the bad guy? also i think the only reason they got a name, i use the term loosely, for mohinder's father is because he is not really dead, and will appear later in the season.

one theory i had was that claire's dad's group created sylar as some sort of ultimate weapon, and he escaped. chandra suresh found him and tried to help him use his powers. he probably couldn't handle the magnitude of his powers and went crazy. maybe all of the "heroes" are just like him and he's going on a killing spree to try to find them and end their "misery."
 
Substance D said:
sylar is peter's brother. that politican dude.

No, he is not. Read the NBC Graphic Novels. Nathan will be a hero, he is just an ******* politician with superpowers right now.
 
Mixairian said:
Bullets move at over 30k MPH (I gotta find my old notes for the exact number). I believe themore accurate measurement is 1500/3000 feet per second but people understand MPH better. Anyhow, it's feesable that he stopped the bullets but because he was doing two things at once (trying to get the female to shoot herself), was caught off guard and the force of the bullets caused him to stop them but not as efficiently. Instead of the bullets penetrating his flesh and killing him, the effect was as if he was wearing a bullet proof vest... Which still hurts like hell and has the force to knock people over. Hollywood/Movies have ruined that aspect of getting shot.

Let's dumb this down a bit. View telekinesis as an invisible hand that when you want to move something, picks the object up and moves it to where it needs to be. That is the most simplest way to look at TK. The most rudimentary form.

Now what happens if instead of using that "hand" to grab we just put in front of someone to block their path. A "wall" of you will.

All Sylar would have to do is have that wall in front of him. The speed/force of the bullets could explain the effect that the wall slowed the bullets down to prevent the killing effect when they struck his body.

One could argue that how could Sylar be fast enough to put said wall up, considering the speed of the bullets but Matt did "appear" first and then fire. We also can work under the assumption that to do such a thing has become instinct for Sylar as he has been using for the longest out of all the characters that we've seen thus far.

TK.



I guess you're right, I have no way of---oh wait, the post right above this quote has the answer!

kkthnxggbaibai

((I was going to respond with some dignity and grace but I'm a gamer at heart and all taunts bring that out. :) ))

it's not real. why are you writing long posts over something that will probably be disclosed in a few episodes? truth is, your opinion is no more valid than anyone elses. it's pointless to praddle on like this. you've stated ur beef, now wait and see if it's true or not. nerd. :yay:
 
Substance D said:
it's not real. why are you writing long posts over something that will probably be disclosed in a few episodes? truth is, your opinion is no more valid than anyone elses. it's pointless to praddle on like this. you've stated ur beef, now wait and see if it's true or not. nerd. :yay:

It's not about being right or wrong right now. He made statements or claims and I've provided evidence to counter his. If I'm right, I will gloat and move on. If I'm wrong, I will apologize and move on. Point at hand is that an attack was made and I respond.

Also note, the word is prattle and by your same logic, none of us should be on the message boards discussing anything as it will be released to us eventually. So why are you even posting a response to me? ;)
 

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