Comics who can beat him?

elvislennon2005 said:
Superman did not died when he fought Doomsday. He power drained and he was in a coma like state so that his powers can be up again. The last time he truely died was back in the early 80s. Lex killed him but was brought back to life by Supergirl and Krypto. Superman died of a total of 7 times but he came back to life each time.


No, Superman actually died when he fought Doomsday. The Eradicator brought him back to life with Kryptonian technology.
 
The Leaguer said:
Preus was kicking his ass until his super-secret vulnerability was revealed: his chest shield. How lame.

I thought he was a cool Supes villian too. Kinda like an anti-supes instead of Bizarro who is just a joke. I loved how he easily defeated Martian Manhunter. I've never really liked MM. I was hoping Superboy Prime was gonna lay the smack down on MM. But oh well
 
FrankCastle6 said:
so like...who can beat superman??? i am not to into his comics....but who could do it? isn't he like...invincible

doomsday
 
blksuperman2 said:
I thought he was a cool Supes villian too. Kinda like an anti-supes instead of Bizarro who is just a joke. I loved how he easily defeated Martian Manhunter. I've never really liked MM. I was hoping Superboy Prime was gonna lay the smack down on MM. But oh well


What's wrong with J'onn?
 
The Question said:
What's wrong with J'onn?

Nothing except he's a rip off of Superman, and his weakness is fire. That's the dumbest weakness D.C. could have come up with. Many other characters that had dumb weaknesses like, Wonder Woman being tied up and Storm being claustrophobic have been pretty much forgotten or done away with.

Don't get me wrong he's a powerhouse with varying abilities but he is just under utilized and right now I just don't like him.
 
He's not a rip off of Superman. They have similar stories, but they're hardly the same. Superman is the orphan. He never knew his people. J'onn is the refugee. He knew his people, and he watched them all die around him. As for fire, it's not that dumb a weakness. And it actually makes sense. Him being a shapeshifter, his physical form is fluid. Intense heat makes it hard to retain a cohesive form, and woyuld eventually kill him.
 
The Question said:
He's not a rip off of Superman. They have similar stories, but they're hardly the same. Superman is the orphan. He never knew his people. J'onn is the refugee. He knew his people, and he watched them all die around him. As for fire, it's not that dumb a weakness. And it actually makes sense. Him being a shapeshifter, his physical form is fluid. Intense heat makes it hard to retain a cohesive form, and woyuld eventually kill him.

You're right they aren't exactly the same, but how many Super strong, super fast, flying last of your kind alien beings are there?
 
Martian Manhunter and Superman, last time I checked. But really, the similarities end there.
 
Andy C. said:
I'm surprised nobody mentioned Hal Jordan. Didn't he (as Parallax) KO Superman at one point?


Yes, when Hal was trying to get his ring back from Kyle.



What's Superman Prime??? I dont read Supes comics regularly.



Muhammad Ali has beaten him, but they were fighting under a red sun.:rolleyes:
 
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house of f said:
him self

or an evil elesworld him any way


Plus:


Green Lantern

Wonder Woman

Martian Manhunter

Bizarro

Zod

Metallo

Parasite

Amazo

Darkseid

The Spectre

Dr. Fate

Alan Scott

Captain Marvel

The Star Conquerer

Despero

Captain Atom

Sinestro

Dr. Polaris

Doomsday

And so on and so forth.
 
Spike_x1 said:
Doomsday has killed Superman before, but he's been watered down significantly in recent years.

Darkseid too, was stronger than Superman and his Omega Beams are capable of wiping Superman from existance. But like Doomsday, Darkseid has been watered down quite a bit too.

In a straight fight, the Parasite would beat Superman every time. Of course, the true Parasite (Rudy) was killed off about 5 years ago and his replacement (Alexandra) is very easily defeated (a layer of clothing can stop her in her tracks).

With kryptonite powering him, Metallo has easily pounded Superman into the ground before. Without kryptonite, Metallo can still hold his own, usually with the help of some sort of gimmick (like his Cerberus/indestructible body, or the geo-magnet). Of course, Metallo's robot body has been taken from him recently, and he too is not really much of a threat anymore.

The Atomic Skull had strength on par with Superman, and he originally had invulnerability similar to Superman's when he was first introduced, but that power seems to have been retconned (and now it doesn't make sense that he can take a punch from Superman, but the force of a bullet's impact will take him out :confused: ). Unfortunately, the Skull was killed off a few months ago.

There are a number of other members of Superman's own rogues gallery who have a good chance of defeating Superman in a fight, but most of them have been forgotten by the current writers. And it seems that the few more well-known Superman villains who haven't been forgotten and once had a strong chance of beating him (listed above) have been either watered down, killed off, or had their powers taken away.

Of course, there are always the characters who aren't necessary limited to Metropolis who have the potential to single-handedly defeat Superman, such as Dr. Fate, Captain Marvel, the Spectre, Zoom, the Flash, Mordru, and many others.

Good post! I am liking Parastie more and more lately and wish they didn't kill him off. Do you think they'll bring him back? I like the parasite version that you have as your avatar.
 
Metropolis_Man said:
Good post! I am liking Parastie more and more lately and wish they didn't kill him off. Do you think they'll bring him back? I like the parasite version that you have as your avatar.
There is a possibility that he might come back in Superman/Batman #28 that comes out in a few months.

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The synopsis of that issue has Superman and Batman fighting Titano and the Parasite. Of course, it didn't specify which Parasite it was (Alexandra or Rudy), but the guy on the cover with green skin and the orange collar looks an awful lot like Rudy's first form that he had when he originally became the Parasite.

It's not that hard to write a resurrection for him, considering that during the 90's, Rudy demonstrated that he can regenerate from almost anything if he's given enough energy to power said resurrection. If it is Rudy on the cover, in my mind, it's not a matter of how he came back from the dead; it's just a matter of why would he revert back to his significantly less powerful body of Parasite 1.0 instead of Parasite 2.5 (the version in my avatar)?
 
Maybe, because he was so very injured, his recovering body is considerably less powerful than he normally is, but he is slowly regaining strength.
 
I can live with that explanation. As long as it's not permanent.

BTW, anyone have any clue as to who the flaming skull guy is on that cover? I'd guess that it'd be the Atomic Skull, but Joe's face (or lack thereof) has never really resembled that before (flaming hair?).
 
Ender Durden said:
The greatest of all time (Muhammad Ali) whupped Superman's behind. Superman was under a red sun at the time, so he had to rely on boxing ability, which pales in comparison to the greatest.
 
TheOriginalman said:
The greatest of all time (Muhammad Ali) whupped Superman's behind. Superman was under a red sun at the time, so he had to rely on boxing ability, which pales in comparison to the greatest.

....:confused: uhmm...ok?
 
FrankCastle6 said:
so like...who can beat superman??? i am not to into his comics....but who could do it? isn't he like...invincible
What about Mongul? He gave Superman a good fight.
 
Superman gets his ass kicked on so many occasions is not even funny now let's start with the DCU characters that can defeat superman.

1)Green lantern
2)Wonder Woman
3)Martian Manhunter
4)The Flash
5)Darkseid
6)Doomsday
7)Metallo
8)Yellow lantern
9)Metamorpho
10)Amazo
11)clayface II
12)Captain Atom

Now from the Marvel Universe that can kicked superman's ass
1)Proffesor X
2)Magneto
3)Ultimate Thor
4)Hulk
5)Thor
6)Silver Surfer
7)Thanos
8)Morlun
9)apocalypse
10)Dr.Strange
11)Galactus
12)rouge
13)Captain Universe
14)Pheonix
15)Quicksilver
16)Venom
17)Blackheart
18)Omega Red
19)Mephisto
20)Mimic
21)Arclight

Now for the characters that are not from DCU or Marverl Universe that can easily beat superman are:
1)Spawn
2)WitchBlade
3)Dracula
4)Goku
5)Dante from devil may cry
6)Alucard
7)naruto
8)Bleech

And a couple of thousand characters that can easily defeat superman, Superman is not a god he's not even a demi-god for that matter. He's just a super being. A god i would consider to be Galactus and a demi-god i would consider to be silver surfer hell even green lantern is consider a demi-god but not superman. I was going to mention batman but then again we all seen batman beat the crap out of superman so many times with and without the use of kryptonite and either if it was in continueity or not.
 
you know at what time or another superman has wopped most of them as well, even wooped thor, hulk and juggernaught in crossovers. its really whoever got lucky in the fight. and whehn the bad guys fight superman they go all out, superman holds back because he doesnt kill. who is to say who could stop him if he went toally beserk.
 
saint sinner x said:
11)clayface II

Clayface couldn't beat Superman. Hell, Clayface can't even beat Batman. Clayface may be a shapeshifter, but he's nowhere near strong enough or tough enough to stand a chance against Superman.

saint sinner x said:
15)Quicksilver

How can Quicksilver beat Superman? He's fast, yeah, but Superman's probably just as fast. And Quicksilver doesn;t have any super strength or anything.

saint sinner x said:

No way Venom could beat Superman. He's nowhere near SUperman's strength class. Plus, he's weak against heat. One blast of heat vision and he's down.

saint sinner x said:
18)Omega Red

No way Omega Red's beating Superman. Superman's way stronger and way faster.

saint sinner x said:
3)Dracula

saint sinner x said:
6)Alucard

Isn't that kind of redundant?

saint sinner x said:

There is no ****ing way that Naruto beats Superman.

saint sinner x said:
And a couple of thousand characters that can easily defeat superman, Superman is not a god he's not even a demi-god for that matter. He's just a super being. A god i would consider to be Galactus and a demi-god i would consider to be silver surfer hell even green lantern is consider a demi-god but not superman. I was going to mention batman but then again we all seen batman beat the crap out of superman so many times with and without the use of kryptonite and either if it was in continueity or not.

We haven't seen Batman beat the crap out of Superman "so many times." In fact, we've never seen him beat the crap out of him. He's fought him twice in continuity and one out of continuity. In the out of continuity one, Superman was still recovering from massive injury, and Batman had the aid of Green Arow and Robin and was using billions of dollars worth of tech and decades worth of preperation.

The two in continuity times were in Lex Luthor: Man of Steel and in Hush. In Hush, Batman was fighting a Superman who was fighting off mind control and thus nowhere near his peak ability, and Batman didn't so much beat him as run away from him and not die until he could snap Superman out of it. The other time, Bruce got his ass kicked all over Gotham.
 
First of all that wasn't in continuity in terms of the superman whopping all of they're assess. Secondly silver surfer would destroy superman even if superman would not hold back.
 

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