Who Has The Most Dangerous Rogues Gallery? Batman Or Spidey?

[regwec]

Look at theses guys...

The thing is, that's pretty much the Marvel rogues' gallery, as opposed to just Spiderman's. If you are making that comparrison, then you have to have Doomsday, Darkseid, Mongul etc in Batman's gallery.

 

[XSpidercideX]

The only ones i see who arnt specifically Spider-man villains are Juggernaught and Dr. Doom. Yet he's fought them many times which is why they are included. How many times does batman go toe to toe with Darkseid, Doomsday, Mongul, etc..

 

[supermarvelman]

The thing is, that's pretty much the Marvel rogues' gallery, as opposed to just Spiderman's. If you are making that comparrison, then you have to have Doomsday, Darkseid, Mongul etc in Batman's gallery.

Are you kidding, do you read Marvel comics?

 

[XSpidercideX]

Morbius, Molten Man, Vulture, Scorpion, Kraven, Venom, Prowler, Ringmaster, Digger, Morlun, Green Goblin, Kingpin, Tinkerer, Electro, Spider Slayer, Shocker, Carnage, Chameleon, Hobgoblin, Rhino, Doc Ock, Shathra, Beetle, Man Mountain Marko.

All big time Spidey villains.

Then I found Punisher, Juggernaught, and Doc Doom. Ok, Spidey has fought with them many times, yet they are not as connected to him as the others are.

Still you cannot say that pic is primarly marvel villains. Everyone of those characters has Spidey written all over him.

 

[celldog]

Didn't Punisher make his first appearance in Spiderman, back in the 70's???

 

[regwec]

Meh, I suppose its arguable. You do have a sprinkling of thumpers with only a toe in the Spider-stable, though.

 

[XSpidercideX]

Meh, I suppose its arguable. You do have a sprinkling of thumpers with only a toe in the Spider-stable, though.

Its not arguable at all. That pic is totally Spider-man. Its straight out of Amazing #500. And everyone of those villains have much more of a "toe in the Spider-stable".

 

[regwec]

In the sense that he has fought them, yes, but not in the sense that all of them are originally his personal nemesi. Juggernaught and Doom were created elsewhere, no?

 

[XSpidercideX]

Thats about it though. Its not arguable on whether or not that is a pic of Spideys rogues. It certainly is.

 

[XSpidercideX]

Good luck against Morlun bat villains.

 

[drastic_quench]

This is a thoroughly pointless excercise. Batman's enemies are complex, cerebral characters whose traits and abilities are defined by their psychology; Spiderman's enemies are about costumes and powers. Batman thwarts his enemies through detective work and strategy as much as physcial force.

You nailed it.

 

[supermarvelman]

Batman would be ****ed going up against most of Spider-man's villians.

 

[drastic_quench]

 

[SpideyInATree]

I'm in agreement with regwec on this matter. If you're going to count the villains that Spidey has had brief encounters with, like Doctor Doom and Juggernaut...then you're going to have to include the big timers that Batman has helped face while being part of the JLA.

Spidey has faced other cosmic beings that weren't pictured in that giant spread. Man, I miss Romita Jr. on Spider-Man, I think it's gonna kill me.

 

[theoneandonly]

dont forget galactus

hasent spidey faced him

 

[Silicon Surfer]

If you want complex and twisted how about Miles Warren, the engineer of the clone scenario. He's so complex and twisted he would make the Joker whimper and cry. Even years after the initial events Spidey didn't know whether he was coming or going (literally) or what really happened. None of Batmans foes ever even came close to that.

 

[SpideyInATree]

If you want complex and twisted how about Miles Warren, the engineer of the clone scenario. He's so complex and twisted he would make the Joker whimper and cry. Even years after the initial events Spidey didn't know whether he was coming or going (literally) or what really happened. None of Batmans foes ever even came close to that.

Lets see how Spidey does under the influence of some of Scarecrow's fear gas.

 

[gildea]

I'm in agreement with regwec on this matter. If you're going to count the villains that Spidey has had brief encounters with, like Doctor Doom and Juggernaut...then you're going to have to include the big timers that Batman has helped face while being part of the JLA.

Why?

Spidey has faced off against them on his own, in his own title.

Thats nowhere near analogous to batman facing off against darkseid or his ilk when he is not in his own title and part of a team.

 

[gildea]

Lets see how Spidey does under the influence of some of Scarecrow's fear gas.

Osborn has done that to him already with a fear gas style pumpkin.

 

[SpideyInATree]

Why?

Spidey has faced off against them on his own, in his own title.

Thats nowhere near analogous to batman facing off against darkseid or his ilk when he is not in his own title and part of a team.

So, we're being PICKY now. This is why I said it's like comparing apples and oranges.

Spider-Man spent most of his comic book life as a loner. He teamed up with heroes occassionally through his book, in Marvel Team Up, and during large scale events.

Batman was more around, being part of the Justice League.

Whether it took place in Batman's main titles or not, it's not what the point is. Batman STILL faced them in one form or another.

And if we're going to pick out the rogues who are primarily fought by another hero, than we should include the ones Batman has had encounters with.

And then we might as well compare all of Marvel's rogues with all of DC's rogues. Which could take a really long time.

They're DIFFERENT. Spidey's villains primarily have POWERS. Batman's do not. They use resources and gadgets and theatrics.

So, yes, Spider-Man's rogue gallery would destroy Batman's rogue gallery. It's like saying...who will win...the gigantic 6 foot tall human or the tiny ant crawling along the sidewalk.

 

[Ben Urich]

Not that it matters at all, but I think Batman's rogues are more dangerous. Ra's al Ghul alone is more dangerous than 95% of Spider-Man's rogues.

 

[SpideyInATree]

I agree with that statement. Spider-Man's rogues may have the powers and everything...but Batman's villains have the crazy and the "these guys could really kill a lot of people" vibe.

Most of Spidey's rogues are losers who happened to get powers and get owned by a guy in a colorful outfit.

 

[Warhammer]

Not that it matters at all, but I think Batman's rogues are more dangerous. Ra's al Ghul alone is more dangerous than 95% of Spider-Man's rogues.

Exactly what I was going to say.
Especially the bit about Ra's.

 

[regwec]

Ra's al Ghul alone is more dangerous than 95% of Spider-Man's rogues.

Ra's al Ghul is better than almost anything.

 

[gildea]

And if we're going to pick out the rogues who are primarily fought by another hero, than we should include the ones Batman has had encounters with.

There is a distinct and obvious difference between fighting some alone and in your own title and fighting someone as part of a team. I'm fully aware you can see the difference but at a loss as to how you can say it is an equivalent argument. Saying you "have" to include people bats fought as part of team cos we're mentioning people spidey fought solo is COMPLETELY illogical.

ALONE

TEAM

c'mon stop being obtuse about it.