Who is cooler: Mario Or Sonic???

[Milu]

Dude, nobody wants to be Luigi.

Not even Luigi wants to be Luigi.

Aw, you saw that coming .

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Mario is cooler because his games are so much better. The last Sonic game I played was Sonic and Knuckles.

 

[Astrø]

Mario is cooler because his games are so much better. The last Sonic game I played was Sonic and Knuckles.

The "Sonic the Hedgehog" game for X Box 360 doesn't have alot of gliches and has a great story line. But don't play the PS3 version or you will probally burn the game from all the glitches....

 

[hippie_hunter]

The "Sonic the Hedgehog" game for X Box 360 doesn't have alot of gliches and has a great story line. But don't play the PS3 version or you will probally burn the game from all the glitches....

Actually, most are saying that both versions of the new Sonic the Hedgehog game are pretty s**tty (the Playstation 3 version being slightly more s**ttier). And say that both versions are full of glitches. And the latest game for the Playstation 3/Xbox 360 was apparently so bad, that Sega has said that there are going to be no more main Sonic games for a while now and the next game will apparently be a complete reinvention of the character and franchise.

And this best describes the franchise in it's current state from Gamepro:

Spoiler

With a title highlighting the main character, you'd expect a more Sonic-centered game, but Sonic the Hedgehog still puts you in the shoes of secondary characters far too often. While there is a greater emphasis on speed, you'll still have to take control of some slower characters like Silver and Tails, who now has one of the most frustratingly awful attack movesets of all time.
Back in the day of the Dreamcast, the excuse that the gameplay was just going through growing pains held water, but frankly, Sonic's time has run out. We're holding out hope that the Sixaxis control for the PS3 version will shake some life out of this franchise, but the prospects for this franchise are bleak.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

The "Sonic the Hedgehog" game for X Box 360 doesn't have alot of gliches and has a great story line. But don't play the PS3 version or you will probally burn the game from all the glitches....

I tried the Sonic demo on 360. It was impossible to get through that. None of the moves worked and the camera sucked. Those are just 2 glitches but are fatal to a game. Even if the story was good, the gameplay is so awful it's not worth laboring over. Face it, Sonic games suck ass. Sonic has died on the operating table.

 

[Astrø]

Actually, most are saying that both versions of the new Sonic the Hedgehog game are pretty s**tty (the Playstation 3 version being slightly more s**ttier). And say that both versions are full of glitches. And the latest game for the Playstation 3/Xbox 360 was apparently so bad, that Sega has said that there are going to be no more main Sonic games for a while now and the next game will apparently be a complete reinvention of the character and franchise.

And this best describes the franchise in it's current state from Gamepro:

Spoiler

With a title highlighting the main character, you'd expect a more Sonic-centered game, but Sonic the Hedgehog still puts you in the shoes of secondary characters far too often. While there is a greater emphasis on speed, you'll still have to take control of some slower characters like Silver and Tails, who now has one of the most frustratingly awful attack movesets of all time.
Back in the day of the Dreamcast, the excuse that the gameplay was just going through growing pains held water, but frankly, Sonic's time has run out. We're holding out hope that the Sixaxis control for the PS3 version will shake some life out of this franchise, but the prospects for this franchise are bleak.

Actualy your right mostly. That is what I kind of saying. If I was to rate it X box version would get a 7.5 out of 10. The PS3 version would get a 5.5 out of 10.

 

[hippie_hunter]

From 1Up.com

Remember the glory days of Sonic the Hedgehog? Once upon a time, he stood face to face with the likes of Bonk and Pac-Man and Mario himself, sneering sarcastically across the battle lines of the 16-bit console wars to remind Super NES owners that their system of choice might have a totally killer sound chip, but dang, was it slow. Mario jogged leisurely through the Mushroom Kingdom, collecting feathers and fruit and riding happy dinosaurs. Sonic, on the other hand, blasted through casinos and amazing 3D spaces, collecting golden rings and sneering at Dr. Robotnik's canniest inventions. He might have been short on depth and humility, but he was big on awesome.

Those halcyon times, alas, are long gone. Sonic is still a pretty big name, and his adventures make good money for developer Sonic Team and publisher Sega. But these days the little blue guy is way past his prime, as proven by his new outing on Xbox 360 and PS3. (Technically speaking, Sonic the Hedgehog is what is referred to as "a debacle.") Nowadays, Sonic is only for hardcore fans living in denial and casual gamers who haven't heard that his new games totally suck.

It's not too late for Sonic, though. We still want to love Sega's hyperactive hedgehog, and while our affection becomes more strained with each new, unplayable sequel, we're a forgiving bunch. We've come up with a simple four-step plan to help Sonic speed his way back into our hearts. Please, Sega, before it's too late.

1. Ditch the Tagalongs
Sonic is a loner, Dottie. A rebel. Having all those companions and pals and buddies nipping at his heels just crimps his style. Especially newer characters like Silver the Hedgehog who, somehow, are even lamer than your average Sonic fanfic/fanart creation. And keep in mind that Sonic fans are so lame they like to draw pictures of Tails having sex. That's super lame. No one outside of Sonic Team's payroll likes Sonic characters who aren't Sonic, so why are we saddled with them? All we want to do is play as the man (er, hedgehog) himself.

So get rid of them. Or let them be background characters. Let Sonic rescue them at the end of a level, never to be seen again outside of cut-scenes. Whatever. Just let us play as Sonic, and Sonic alone.

2. That Goes Double For Shadow the Hedgehog
Sigh. Don't even get us started.

3. Faster, Sonic, kill! Kill!
Remember Blast Processing? It was a sham, sure, but the idea behind it was a perfect summation of what Sonic was about: A game so fast that the Genesis had to be specially programmed to keep up with it. Slowing down to drink in the ambiance or whatever is pretty much the exact opposite of Blast Processing. Being forced to, say, go fishing in a Sonic game is like buying a Ferrari so you can take naps in the backseat.

Sonic games are best when they're about speed. And not in the Sonic Riders sense, where you can basically win by not pressing a single button. You should need a combination of speed and reflexes -- balls-out action, in other words. Take a cue from Sonic Rush, which was classic, dumb fun. There's a reason Sonic had an impatient, foot-tapping idle animation in the old games -- if you weren't running, you were missing the point.

4. Conversely, slow down
Sega, here's a secret you can take from your friends at Nintendo: Moderation makes for happy gamers. Zelda games arrive only once every two or three years. True Mario sequels are seen even less frequently. Spin offs are all well and good, but real follow-ups to a flagship series become far more significant if they're doled out in moderation.

It's basic economics: Scarcity makes any resource precious. But more importantly, there's no sense in cheapening a great idea with lots of halfhearted rehashes. Which sounds more exciting, a new Mario game or a new Mega Man game? Even the best hero can wear out his welcome, and our welcome mat is getting threadbare thanks to Sonic's big red sneakers.

5. Here's where the story ends
There are games that deftly interweave narrative and gameplay, adventures whose storytelling is nothing less than magnificent, whose characters are engagingly developed, whose plotlines create a sense of meaning and urgency for the action. And then...there's Sonic.

Let's face the facts: Sonic the Hedgehog is a game about a lumpy blue rodent who runs really fast and saves woodland critters from being turned into robots. That's fine -- we don't need an epic laden with Sturm und Drang (et gravitas) to make Sonic fun. We just need a flimsy excuse to jump through hoops, run through loops, and snag tons of rings. So let's stop with this weird mashup of bobbleheaded hedgehogs fighting realistic humans with accurately modeled handguns. Let's skip the tiresome cinematics. Let's avoid stirring speeches and grim proclamations. And please, for the love of God, don't ever make us see cute human girls making out with Sonic. Ever again.

Seriously, we'll hurt you.

 

[Astrø]

I tried the Sonic demo on 360. It was impossible to get through that. None of the moves worked and the camera sucked. Those are just 2 glitches but are fatal to a game. Even if the story was good, the gameplay is so awful it's not worth laboring over. Face it, Sonic games suck ass. Sonic has died on the operating table.

Demos are sometimes the unfinshed samples that sometimes suck. I won't play it for the PS3 but for the 360 it is okay.

 

[Astrø]

Sonic isn't a loner. Read the comics. He usaly is in a group with atleast knuckles or tails

 

[hippie_hunter]

Actualy your right mostly. That is what I kind of saying. If I was to rate it X box version would get a 7.5 out of 10. The PS3 version would get a 5.5 out of 10.

No it wasn't. Your point and my point were completely different. You're saying that the new Sonic the Hedgehog game was good. While pretty much everyone else thinks that both versions of the damn game, are almost equally s**tty. Even Sega said that the game was a piece of s**t! That's why there aren't going to be any more core Sonic games for a while now and when they do, it'll be completely different hopefully.

 

[Astrø]

No it wasn't. Your point and my point were completely different. You're saying that the new Sonic the Hedgehog game was good. While pretty much everyone else thinks that both versions of the damn game, are almost equally s**tty. Even Sega said that the game was a piece of s**t! That's why there aren't going to be any more core Sonic games for a while now and when they do, it'll be completely different hopefully.

I still liked it.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Sonic isn't a loner. Read the comics. He usaly is in a group with atleast knuckles or tails

Sonic is just like Batman. A loner who surrounds himself with a bunch of people: Nightwing, Robin, Oracle, Catwoman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Batgirl, Huntress, the Outsiders, etc.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I still liked it.

My taste > Average people's taste > Your taste > lars' taste

 

[Astrø]

Sonic is just like Batman. A loner who surrounds himself with a bunch of people: Nightwing, Robin, Oracle, Catwoman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Batgirl, Huntress, the Outsiders, etc.

But you rarely find Sonic alone in the comics.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Demos are sometimes the unfinshed samples that sometimes suck. I won't play it for the PS3 but for the 360 it is okay.

From reviews I've read, the demo and game have the same problems.

 

[hippie_hunter]

But you rarely find Sonic alone in the comics.

Yeah, and read a Batman comic, he's rarely alone in those too. He's always around Robin or Nightwing or Gordon or Alfred or Catwoman or the Justice League or the Outsiders.

Quite frankly, I loved his personality in Sonic X.

 

[Astrø]

Yeah, and read a Batman comic, he's rarely alone in those too. He's always around Robin or Nightwing or Gordon or Alfred or Catwoman or the Justice League or the Outsiders.

Quite frankly, I loved his personality in Sonic X.

So did I. In the Sonic X comics series is the most you see him alone(in the sense as a do it yourself if you know what I mean)

 

[Astrø]

From reviews I've read, the demo and game have the same problems.

I have learned that Reviews can sometimes miss judge a game. Just like Mario party 8. It got some realy bad rateings but it is a great game.

 

[hippie_hunter]

So did I. In the Sonic X comics series is the most you see him alone(in the sense as a do it yourself if you know what I mean)

Well, I'm talking about the cartoon. I don't touch Archie brand comics, not even with a 20 foot pole

But Sonic's characterization in Sonic X was perfect. He was a carefree loner who did his own thing but came to help everytime when trouble came and valued his friends.

It's a damn shame that the rest of the characters asides from Knuckles were annoying as hell, especially Amy.

 

[Astrø]

Well, I'm talking about the cartoon. I don't touch Archie brand comics, not even with a 20 foot pole

But Sonic's characterization in Sonic X was perfect. He was a carefree loner who did his own thing but came to help everytime when trouble came and valued his friends.

It's a damn shame that the rest of the characters asides from Knuckles were annoying as hell, especially Amy.

Eeven as a Sonic fan boy I do have to say Knuckles was very anoying and he was a HUGE let down....

 

[Spidey-Bat]

I have learned that Reviews can sometimes miss judge a game. Just like Mario party 8. It got some realy bad rateings but it is a great game.

I have, too. But when a game gets under 5 from most reviewers, then it's definitely ****.

 

[Astrø]

I have, too. But when a game gets under 5 from most reviewers, then it's definitely ****.

To each his own.

 

[Master Blaster]

Actually, most are saying that both versions of the new Sonic the Hedgehog game are pretty s**tty (the Playstation 3 version being slightly more s**ttier). And say that both versions are full of glitches. And the latest game for the Playstation 3/Xbox 360 was apparently so bad, that Sega has said that there are going to be no more main Sonic games for a while now and the next game will apparently be a complete reinvention of the character and franchise.

Well, then if that's the case I say bring back Sonic's original designer Naoto Oshima! He helped Yuji Naka create Sonic and directed Sonic CD (Considered by many to be Sonic's best game.) I think it would be great to get Sonic back to his roots. Change him back to his old "Felix The Cat" character design, go back to having a J-Pop and J-Rock soundtrack and try to reestablish that nostalgic 80s anime atmosphere that his world use to have.

 

[Astrø]

Well, then if that's the case I say bring back Sonic's original designer Naoto Oshima! He helped Yuji Naka create Sonic and directed Sonic CD (Considered by many to be Sonic's best game.) I think it would be great to get Sonic back to his roots. Change him back to his old "Felix The Cat" character design, go back to having a J-Pop and J-Rock soundtrack and try to reestablish that nostalgic 80s anime atmosphere that his world use to have.

I would say the same but then I would lose all those charecters I have come to love....

 

[hippie_hunter]

I would say the same but then I would lose all those charecters I have come to love....

God damn, why the hell can't you realise that those characters are annoying and that they really, really suck.

They're bringing the franchise down.