World Who is Spidey's arch-nemesis?

[zeptron]

I've heard people say GG and I've heard people say Venom.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Venom is not even a contender.

 

[E.Brock]

Venom is absolutely a contender. If it were any two spidey villains, it would come down to these two...thats non disputable

 

[brianbuck]

Venom is absolutely a contender. If it were any two spidey villains, it would come down to these two...thats non disputable

Like Hell it is. Neither one of these guys makes the cut. For starters, Green Goblin was dead for 20 years, and the only reason he's where he is now is because he provided a merciful end to the clone saga, and editorial mandate. As for Venom, he's the Boba Fett of the Marvel Universe. A one-dimensional lame character whose popularity is soley due to having a nifty outfit.
Spider-Mans' one, true arch-nemesis is the one and only Doctor Octopus. In all ways Peters' opposite number. Otto is the geek-gone-bad, whereas Peter is the geek-made-good.
Neither Norman Osborn or Venom ever tried to nuke New York on general principle. Doc Ock did.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Neither Norman Osborn or Venom ever tried to nuke New York on general principle. Doc Ock did.

Norman is responsible for the second most life-altering moment in Peter's life; the death of Gwen Stacy. The mantle of the Goblin corrupted the life of Peter's best friend, Harry. No villain has ever haunted or affected Spider-Man's life quite like the Green Goblin.

 

[SuperFerret]

Venom is absolutely a contender. If it were any two spidey villains, it would come down to these two...thats non disputable

Doctor Octopus would beg to differ. It's always been between the Goblin, who made things personal with Parker, and Ock, who's Peter's opposite. Venom, who's just big, scary and full of poorly justified hate, is not a contender.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

MY favorite Villian is Venom, but Green Goblin is Spider-Man's greatest enemy. SO, I'm going with the Goblin.

 

[Venom75]

I think it all depends on who's answering. Obviously,Spidey's top villains ever are the "Big 3:" Goblin,Venom and Ock.

Truthfully,I've noticed that all three were at the top spot at one time. It all depends on the time. At the beginning I thought it was Goblin,then Ock,now Venom.

Now that I think about it,there is no right answer here. It all depends on who you like better. That's it. It's not like Marvel has ever come out and said,"Yep,this guy is Spider-man's all time nemesis."
Personally,I love Venom(sometimes even more than Spidey). So,for me it's Venom. Now,for a Goblin fan,it's him;etc,etc.

 

[Dr.Dude]

I'm a Doctor Octopus fan above all else but I do think that even though Ock and Venom are important archenemies in their own right, it's hard to deny that the Goblin has the top spot.

When I say "The Goblin," though, I don't so much mean Norman Osborn in specific as I mean the Goblin Legacy as a whole. Norman created it, sure but it then led to Harry, who was even more of a personal threat, plus Roderick Kingsley's Hobgoblin who is far too often forgotten in these sorts of polls.

 

[B]

I always felt Venom was as much an villian to Spiderman as Doomsday is to Superman.. ie not an 'arch-nemisis' persay but a villian who'd have the most chance of killing him.

I always thought Green Goblin as Spiderman's 'arch-nemisis' though.

 

[Hobgoblin]

Doctor Octopus deserves to be on the poll.


That said, the Green Goblin is #1.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

It goes...

1. Goblin
2. Ock
3. Venom

 

[Spidey_62]

It goes...

1. Goblin
2. Ock
3. Venom

 

[XSpidercideX]

Truthfully,I've noticed that all three were at the top spot at one time. It all depends on the time. At the beginning I thought it was Goblin,then Ock,now Venom.

Venom isn't Spidey's arch-nemesis even now! Maybe for a breef few stories in the early 90s but his reign was short lived.

Green Goblin (Norman) was, and is (ever since his resurrection in 1996) Spider-man's arch-nemesis.

Doc Ock could be argued for mid 70s/80s, however, Harry was around during this time being the GG as well...

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

The real reason why people think Venom is numero uno is because he's incredibly popular.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Ock-handed Spidey his first defeat, which humbled him & made him re-think his approach to crime fighting.
Created the Sinister Six, bringing about one of THE toughest physical challenges Spidey has had to date.
Cured Spidey of a life-threatening illness because he couldn't bear the thought of him dying such an anticlimactic death.
Goblin-killing Gwen Stacy was, if I'm not mistaken, the FIRST TIME EVER that a villain invaded a hero's personal life like that.
Has turned Spidey's world upside down numerous times-even making him question the validity of his own existence.
Negated Spider-sense long before the word "symbiote" ever entered our vocabularies.
Venom-what's he done? Why are we so enamored of him? I've been asking this question for over a decade, ever since whatever symbiote spell was cast on me in the early 90's wore off. I'm just not impressed. He seems...unoriginal, among other things. What's he got going for him? He can mimic Spidey's powers. So can Mysterio. And to a lesser extent, Kraven. He can sneak up on Spidey. So can Mysterio AND the Goblin. He knows everything about him. So does the Goblin. He's so much stronger than Spidey and hates him with a fiery passion. Same goes for the Rhino. And Venom's stories have brought out the worst in Spider-Man, while negating everything we love about him. This man learned at the age of 15 that with great power comes great responsibility. His duties came before everything after that-including his own safety. Why, then, has his entire history with Venom been filled with cowardice and compromise? Why does he keep cutting deals with Venom, agreeing to leave him alone, partnering up with him, running & hiding from him instead of FINDING A WAY TO TAKE HIM DOWN?!?!?!?! So what if he's hard to beat? Ock handed his ass to him the day they met. This guy has gone toe-to-toe with Firelord, the Hulk, Morlun, Juggernaut, Wolverine and a slew of others who should have proven too much for him. And he never backed down or gave up. Why would he do so with Venom? It makes no sense whatsoever. Nevermind the fact that Venom's motivation is devoid of logic. You inadvertantly debunked a story that I'd written by hunting down a serial killer. And it's not my fault that I didn't check my facts, it's your fault because you captured the serial killer. Which somehow translates to you being evil & me being innocent. WTF?

 

[E.Brock]

Ock-handed Spidey his first defeat, which humbled him & made him re-think his approach to crime fighting.
Created the Sinister Six, bringing about one of THE toughest physical challenges Spidey has had to date.
Cured Spidey of a life-threatening illness because he couldn't bear the thought of him dying such an anticlimactic death.
Goblin-killing Gwen Stacy was, if I'm not mistaken, the FIRST TIME EVER that a villain invaded a hero's personal life like that.
Has turned Spidey's world upside down numerous times-even making him question the validity of his own existence.
Negated Spider-sense long before the word "symbiote" ever entered our vocabularies.
Venom-what's he done? Why are we so enamored of him? I've been asking this question for over a decade, ever since whatever symbiote spell was cast on me in the early 90's wore off. I'm just not impressed. He seems...unoriginal, among other things. What's he got going for him? He can mimic Spidey's powers. So can Mysterio. And to a lesser extent, Kraven. He can sneak up on Spidey. So can Mysterio AND the Goblin. He knows everything about him. So does the Goblin. He's so much stronger than Spidey and hates him with a fiery passion. Same goes for the Rhino. And Venom's stories have brought out the worst in Spider-Man, while negating everything we love about him. This man learned at the age of 15 that with great power comes great responsibility. His duties came before everything after that-including his own safety. Why, then, has his entire history with Venom been filled with cowardice and compromise? Why does he keep cutting deals with Venom, agreeing to leave him alone, partnering up with him, running & hiding from him instead of FINDING A WAY TO TAKE HIM DOWN?!?!?!?! So what if he's hard to beat? Ock handed his ass to him the day they met. This guy has gone toe-to-toe with Firelord, the Hulk, Morlun, Juggernaut, Wolverine and a slew of others who should have proven too much for him. And he never backed down or gave up. Why would he do so with Venom? It makes no sense whatsoever. Nevermind the fact that Venom's motivation is devoid of logic. You inadvertantly debunked a story that I'd written by hunting down a serial killer. And it's not my fault that I didn't check my facts, it's your fault because you captured the serial killer. Which somehow translates to you being evil & me being innocent. WTF?

The entire superhero hype community can easily be divided into two different categories, Venom-Lovers and Venom-Haters. I am absolutely not getting into another "defend Venom" discussion. I've done it too many times before and I just dont have it in me at the moment. What I will say is that even though different spidey villains may have different advantages over the webhead, Venom has all of them. You can't say with a straight face that anyone of Spider-Man's villains has a chance of beating Venom one on one. He has also gone toe-to-toe with Hulk, Juggernaut, Wolverine, Iron Man, even Superman...and giving them a hell of a fight at that. His symbiote will match his opponents strength when need be. It's the age old story that your toughest opponent is yourself. Venom's abilities, while significantly more powerful, mirror Spider-Man's. I like the point that an earlier poster made...while you wouldnt consider Doomsday to be Superman's arch nemesis, he's the one that had the best chance of taking him down. Spidey himself has said on numerous occasions that Venom is his toughest foe. No, I don't think Venom deserves the top spot when it comes to the title of "Spider-Man arch-nemesis". That mantle belongs to Norman Osbourne/Green Goblin, but to put anybody else ahead of him besides Doc Ock...that's nonsense.

 

[Hobgoblin]

Venom provides good, mindless action. Even his defenders seem to acknowledge that his main talent is fighting. But as for character growth and being a cunning foe to Spider-Man? No. That goes to folks like Norman and Otto, who can give a good beating and turn Peter's life upside down, too. Even people like Mysterio and Chameleon can mess with Spidey's personal life. Venom just wants to beat him to death.

 

[E.Brock]

Venom provides good, mindless action. Even his defenders seem to acknowledge that his main talent is fighting. But as for character growth and being a cunning foe to Spider-Man? No. That goes to folks like Norman and Otto, who can give a good beating and turn Peter's life upside down, too. Even people like Mysterio and Chameleon can mess with Spidey's personal life. Venom just wants to beat him to death.

Venom instills the most the fear in Spidey....but Well put

 

[Chris Wallace]

The entire superhero hype community can easily be divided into two different categories, Venom-Lovers and Venom-Haters. I am absolutely not getting into another "defend Venom" discussion. I've done it too many times before and I just dont have it in me at the moment. What I will say is that even though different spidey villains may have different advantages over the webhead, Venom has all of them. You can't say with a straight face that anyone of Spider-Man's villains has a chance of beating Venom one on one. He has also gone toe-to-toe with Hulk, Juggernaut, Wolverine, Iron Man, even Superman...and giving them a hell of a fight at that. His symbiote will match his opponents strength when need be. It's the age old story that your toughest opponent is yourself. Venom's abilities, while significantly more powerful, mirror Spider-Man's. I like the point that an earlier poster made...while you wouldnt consider Doomsday to be Superman's arch nemesis, he's the one that had the best chance of taking him down. Spidey himself has said on numerous occasions that Venom is his toughest foe. No, I don't think Venom deserves the top spot when it comes to the title of "Spider-Man arch-nemesis". That mantle belongs to Norman Osbourne/Green Goblin, but to put anybody else ahead of him besides Doc Ock...that's nonsense.

I can't get behind situations that made no sense. A fight between Venom & Iron Man should last about 10 seconds-with Stark the clear winner. Against Superman? I read that ridiculous story & if Venom had the strength to hurt Superman he would've killed Spidey a long time ago. That story was badly written (like MOST of the crossovers involving Access) & based largely on Venom's popularity. Venom doesn't have the brains to be the level of threat to Spidey that Ock & Goblin are. And apart from some tough fights, (any of which Spidey could have easily won by slamming two trash can lids together) WHAT HAS VENOM DONE? In all the years he's been in print, what has been his defining moment? Apart from being overused & overexposed. I think I would be more interested in him, again, had I been able to pick up a comic in the 90's without seeing his face. In the long run, I just find him boring. Even Bane has more depth to him than Venom does.
Oh-and as for Venom instilling the most fear in Spidey, I'm still trying to figure out why that is.

 

[brianbuck]

I can't get behind situations that made no sense. A fight between Venom & Iron Man should last about 10 seconds-with Stark the clear winner. Against Superman? I read that ridiculous story & if Venom had the strength to hurt Superman he would've killed Spidey a long time ago. That story was badly written (like MOST of the crossovers involving Access) & based largely on Venom's popularity. Venom doesn't have the brains to be the level of threat to Spidey that Ock & Goblin are. And apart from some tough fights, (any of which Spidey could have easily won by slamming two trash can lids together) WHAT HAS VENOM DONE? In all the years he's been in print, what has been his defining moment? Apart from being overused & overexposed. I think I would be more interested in him, again, had I been able to pick up a comic in the 90's without seeing his face. In the long run, I just find him boring. Even Bane has more depth to him than Venom does.
Oh-and as for Venom instilling the most fear in Spidey, I'm still trying to figure out why that is.

The same reason a guy who was dead for 25 years is now Spideys' arch-foe: Editorial Mandate.
Oh, and you hit the nail on the head with the trash can lids bit. Yeah, all Spidey needs to beat Venom is a boom box and a Slayer CD. I guess alien symbiotes are like hippies, they can't stand Death Metal.
The real question now is: Who is more overexposed, Venom or Wolverine?

 

[The Joker]

I've always thought that Green Goblin is Peter Parker's greatest enemy, while Doctor Octopus is Spider-Man's greatest enemy.

Venom is not even a contender for the title. He's a glorified stalker with a chip on his shoulder.

 

[Chris Wallace]

The same reason a guy who was dead for 25 years is now Spideys' arch-foe: Editorial Mandate.
Oh, and you hit the nail on the head with the trash can lids bit. Yeah, all Spidey needs to beat Venom is a boom box and a Slayer CD. I guess alien symbiotes are like hippies, they can't stand Death Metal.
The real question now is: Who is more overexposed, Venom or Wolverine?

In the 90's, Venom. Now, Wolverine. The final injustice of the 90's was putting Venom in the Sinister 6. The injustices with Wolverine continue every time an X-Men movie or cartoon is introduced, & everybody on the team is forced to play second fiddle in order to give him more exposure. Not to mention that they actually wrote him into the Avengers roster.

 

[Venomaniac]

Spider-Man arch-nemesis is Marvel
Specifically all of the editor-in-chiefs that ever laid hands on thye character

Think about it: EVERY bad event that has happened to Spidey was EDITORIAL MANDATE!

 

[Chris Wallace]

Spider-Man arch-nemesis is Marvel
Specifically all of the editor-in-chiefs that ever laid hands on the character

Think about it: EVERY bad event that has happened to Spidey was EDITORIAL MANDATE!

There's truth in that.