Who is the Man in the Iron Mask?

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  1. Dark Raven The Gal from Themyscira

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    I thought we could have a thread dedicated to discussing this particular topic with most of the theories contained in here rather than spread all over separate threads.

    I need to repost some of my thoughts in here later when I find them.

    In the meantime, speculate away!
     
  2. BlueLanternKal Super-Lex

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    I'm going to make an educated guess and say that he's not Leonardo DiCaprio
     
  3. Dark Raven The Gal from Themyscira

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    I'll repeat what I said in another thread here:

    I think the Man in the Iron Mask has to be the real version of someone, or definitely a duplicate of someone, and most likely Jay. I don't think it's a coincidence that he's in an iron mask. It is probably used to recall the French historical legend and also the Alexander Dumas story, which plays upon the idea that the prisoner is the twin of King Louis XIV.

    But I hope they won't wait until the very end of the season to reveal his identity. He needs to be shown, and then somehow escape, perhaps with the help of Barry, and assume his rightful place as the true version of whoever he is (probably Jay) and be instrumental in helping take down Zoom.

    The rest of the season could very well borrow elements from The Man in the Iron Mask story.
     
  4. BlueLanternKal Super-Lex

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    Can't hate on the classics.
     
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  6. zenith16 Registered

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    just got this from CBR's face book.


















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  7. Mike Murdock Registered

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    The assumption is Jay, but I missed the allusion to the classic story, so I'm glad you pointed it out. I hope they don't take too long in the reveal, mostly because it's already the number one internet theory so they might as well not waste people's time with teases.
     
  8. Dark Raven The Gal from Themyscira

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    It really wouldn't make much sense for the man in the iron mask to be upset when hearing that Jay is safe on earth 1 if he is Wally or Henry behind there, or even Eddie. And why tap JAY as the first thing?
     
  9. zenith16 Registered

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    He may have been ether been trying to tell them his name or say Jay was an impostor. We'll find out if and when barry returns there
     
  10. Dark Raven The Gal from Themyscira

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    Even if Jay isn't Zoom, I don't think the Jay we've been seeing interacting with team Flash is the real Jay. It seems the most natural interpretation of the masked man's actions of being upset and looking defeated when Barry told him Jay was safe.
     
  11. zenith16 Registered

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    well I don't suspect he's( fake Jay) zoom. I said fake Jay is an accomplice which is a partner and some one else. I doubt zoom would trust another crooked version of him self ether. that one is likely to betray him, if he spot's a weakness in zoom.


    And I'm just hoping who ever it is that's the fake jay just took real jays looks in his partnership with zoom and zoom isn't zolomon(zolomon doesn't look like Jay at all) or a doppelganger of Jay.

    I don't see it being henry from earth 2 it'll just be weird cause the motive won't make sense and it put earth version of his in weird place and you have to wonder if she's in on it? what will the motive be beyond midlife crisis for them both. lol and why raise a son Earth 2 barry who's a CSI to be a decent man and then turn psychotic?



    The actor that played Eddie was really busy in the hit abc show quntico ,which is filmed in Montreal and though his character supposedly died in that show most recently that show is really heavy handed with the flash backs with is mystery there.

    So they still might be using the actor that played Eddie in that show. it's possible he might show up. but it'll be weird.
     
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    If he is the real Jay and the Jay we've been seeing the whole time is fake, then why would the man in the iron mask being telling Barry his name is Jay, when he's never met Barry before?

    God bless you! God bless everyone!
     
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    I'm pretty conviced that the guy in the mask is the real Jay, and fake Jay is actually The Rival. Or its Earth 1 Jay somehow.
     
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    I don't buy the idea that Zoom is Jay (for reasons I've already stated), but the notion that the "man in the mask" is * A * version of Jay from somewhere else is intriguing.
     
  15. metaphysician Not a Side-Kick

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    I would say its 90% certain the guy in the mask is the real(?) Jay Garrick. The bigger mystery is "So who is the guy we've been paling around with?"
     
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    Doing the "fake Jay" thing is a rehash of Season 1 Just as much as making Jay be Zoom is, so "no thank you".
     
  17. jokesonm3 Jokes For Short.

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    Given his connection to Jay, I think he should henceforth be known as "Silent Bob" until proven otherwise.
     
  19. Dark Raven The Gal from Themyscira

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    Is there any reason he couldn't have used Morse code instead of this old WWII code?

    And couldn't he have pointed to himself to say he was Jay (if he is) instead of banging on the glass and crumbling in defeat? Maybe he's not a very good communicator.

    In order for them to get that he was trying to communicate a message in the first place, shouldn't he have tried to attract their attention? Maybe give a wave to make them look his way and then begin tapping something?
     
  20. Mike Murdock Registered

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    This is easier to figure out than Morse Code. Morse Code requires memorizing an entire alphabet of combinations. If you haven't done that in advance of getting captured, you're SOL.
     
  21. Jedi Arrow Vigilant Knight

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    I thought initially the Man in the Iron Mask was either E-2 Eddie or E-2 Wally, but seeing his reaction to Jay, it's entirely possible he's the real Jay and the one Caitlin and co. have been working with is a fake. I don't see how fake!Jay could be Zoom, though, because they're clearly on two different worlds at the same time, so at best, fake!Jay is an accomplice of Zoom. I like the idea of him being The Rival, maybe.
     
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    I really like the idea of it being Eddie. This would make it easier to accept the continued existence of RF on Earth 1 (Eddie was drawn into the singularity and revived on Earth 2 by Zoom, making his way back to Earth 1 sometime in the future).
     
  23. Dark Raven The Gal from Themyscira

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    Eddie never met Jay Garrick and would have no reason to even mention him though. It just doesn't fit with anything else having it be Eddie.
     
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    What if the guy in the mask is the real Jay, and the current Jay is actually Everyman from Earth 2? Zoom sent Earth 2 Everyman to Earth 1 to get close to Team Flash in hopes of getting velocity injections so that Zoom can take it for himself and become faster.
     
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    this was posed by CBR but there's the addition to velocity 6 and fake jay's knowledge of it and shown of use of in his cell so it's looking like it's Jay's arch enemy the Rival .

    Again the only ones that knows the true details of velocity 6 -9 are the Rival and the quick family Jessie's dad johnny. and now that Jessie is earth dr.well's kid and they said he didn't invent it only recently tried to attempt to recreate it and Caitlin took over......
     

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