Who Was The Green Goblin?

[FNSpidey]

Just out of curiosity, why would you prefer Harry being the Goblin, since the other option would be more faithful and reveal a more intricate storyline?

 

[Don Yoyo]

I prefer it because it's unfaithful. Changing the place, putting the father behind the son, making Peter's friend one of his biggest enemies directly, I like it. As for the more intricate storyline... I personnaly don't see it like that in fact, perharps.

 

[vinny2]

I'm fine with Harry being the Goblin as well, but the pieces don't seem to fall into place so I find it hard to accept it.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Still think its Norman.

As I said, this is most likely, though as I said, harry could have been the Goblin at one point as well.

 

[Webhead2006]

Yea there is many factors we all have to look at. Yes they both could and likely were the goblin but from what we know right now we have no solid answer on the goblin's true identity.

 

[spider-neil]

the SSM team are in a win/win situation.
if they keep the goblin as harry it shows they aren't afraid to go against the grain in regards to telling a story, they also have the benifit of norman becoming a bigger better version of the goblin because they can use the harry goblin a benchmark to beat.

and if they reveal norman as the goblin it will show they are masters of weaving an intricate storyline and leaving clues only the most observant spidey fans will pick up.

 

[SLYspyder]

Harry is not the Goblin. Trust me, he's not the Goblin. You're actually falling for Norman's ruse.


And your "Spidey can swing 100 mph" **** is spoken like someone who knows nothing about NYC's geography. I've only lived there all my life. What do I know.

As for Norman not limping... he survived getting impaled. Goblin healing factor. Then he sneaks in and breaks his son's leg while he's out cold.

Not to mention, Harry in the costume looked smaller than the Goblin we've previously been seeing.

Also, Greg Weisman is a terrific writer. If Harry knew Tombstone was the Big Man, Greg would have had Norman identify him at the apartment while talking to Hammerhead, not the lab.

I know Greg, I know how he writes. This is the guy who created and wrote David Xanatos.

And as for your "if this were a trial" comment, apparently forty people were swayed, and six people who have no grasp of story telling and mysteries weren't.

I'm willing to dress up like a cheerleader if I'm wrong if you are

Oh, I know about NYC geography. It should take like 25 min to drive from Elizabeth, NJ, to Manhattan. Hm, that translates to about 7 min of swing time. And maybe about 4 min glide time.

You're forgetting one thing. If it was supposed to be known Spidey arrived much later than Goblin, they would've told us. All this detective work you're putting in isn't necessary, especially for a show like this. I remember once before in TAS where Spidey went through a portal and landed somewhere far away from his objective, he straight up said "It's gonna take me an hour to swing back to the other side of town" (he was exaggerating a bit) or something like that.
If what you're saying about travel time is important, they would've given us a shot of GG going over the Hudson, and Spider-Man looking at him, then saying something like "Oh boy, I guess I have to use the long way around." It wasn't important, so they showed GG gliding, then next scene, Spider-Man flies through the door.

I definitely noticed Harry and those Goblin boots made him taller than Spidey, I don't know what YOU saw.

The leg injury healing holds no ground IMO. His regenerative abilities does not work that fast.

Thank goodness Harry doesn't have you guys as a jury, a guilty man would've gotten off scott-free.

 

[SLYspyder]

Just out of curiosity, why would you prefer Harry being the Goblin, since the other option would be more faithful and reveal a more intricate storyline?

That's exactly what the problem is. What does answering a question about who the Goblin is have to do with personal preference? I DON'T prefer Harry as the Goblin, I'm just stating the facts. It looks like everyone's personal preference here has deluded them into wanting to believe Norman was the one Spider-Man fought.

Don't set yourself up for disappointment.

 

[SLYspyder]

That is non valid at all : Octavius left the key on the board before going in the room for his experiment, and the Green Goblin just reinserted the key to start the experiment, he didn't have one prior. And you would expect Norman, as the head of the company, to have this kind of key on him.

Looks like your witnesses have been giving perjurious statements, Sarcastic fan.

 

[SLYspyder]

The prevailing belief is that Norman was the Goblin and Chameleon was Norman. It would explain Goblin's WTF look when he saw his reflection walking down the hallway. However, accepting this theory, fueled by the fact that Quentin Beck mentioned that Chameleon has recently disguised himself as a certain "captain of industry" in the following episode, would also be accepting that Norman was in the suit the entire time.

That wasn't a WTF look. That was the director of the show giving everyone a big surprise. "Hey guys! You all thought Norman was the Goblin. Guess what?! He's not, look at the both of them together!" Even I thought Norman was the Goblin before all that.

Again, why would they have the Chameleon in an episode, but don't mention him at all, not even a scene with the "General" talking about how he's got plans or something. Doing something like that leaves the door WIDE open, as in, you can look at any character in any past episode and say he was the Chameleon.

 

[Sarcastic Fan]

Well, here's one witness, Mr. Weisman himself. As I've said before, I know the man, I know how he writes. He's been setting up a longer mystery.

Look at Chameleon! That was Chameleon at OsCorp. The Goblin had this "WTF" look on his face before flying off, laughing.

THAT would not have been put in without a reason.

Harry is not the Goblin, and if you are so sure, instead of insulting people by calling them deluded, put your money where your mouth is.

I am challenging you to this bet once again. Loser dresses up as a Cheerleader and posts a picture when the truth is probably revealed by episode twenty-six.

Come on, if you're so sure, do it. Take the bet. Be a man. Have balls.

 

[Sarcastic Fan]

Again, why would they have the Chameleon in an episode, but don't mention him at all, not even a scene with the "General" talking about how he's got plans or something. Doing something like that leaves the door WIDE open, as in, you can look at any character in any past episode and say he was the Chameleon.

You are not a writer. A line like the security guard pointing out how Norman walked in through the front door is never put in for the Hell of it.

 

[vinny2]

That's exactly what the problem is. What does answering a question about who the Goblin is have to do with personal preference? I DON'T prefer Harry as the Goblin, I'm just stating the facts. It looks like everyone's personal preference here has deluded them into wanting to believe Norman was the one Spider-Man fought.

Don't set yourself up for disappointment.

I'm not deluded. I'm read five, maybe six Spider-Man comics in my entire life. The first time I EVER saw Spider-Man was an occasional episode of Spider-Man: The Animated Series. (I later went back and watched the entire series through random reruns.) I have seen all three movies and saw about half of the MTV series. About four months ago, I sat down and watched Spider-Man Unlimited on YouTube, along with some episodes of the classic 60's show.

I'm am not one who cares about purity or keeping in line with the comics. I was literally the only person my school who wasn't in an uproar over Aunt Carnage. Whoever they choose to be the Goblin is fine by me, but the evidence points to Norman. Clear and simple.

 

[DACrowe]

Obvious answer:

Both.

 

[Farren]

A line like the security guard pointing out how Norman walked in through the front door is never put in for the Hell of it.

I agree. The scripting and continuity in the show so far has been pretty solid - and with a 22 minute window to tell a story each week every scene counts: anything not relevant isn't likely to make it into the final cut.

Plus - we saw Chameleon pose as Norman in "Persona" - he could have posed as any regular person at that party but he chose Norman. I think there's a reasonable chance that these aren't coincidences.

 

[Syncos]

Oh, I know about NYC geography. It should take like 25 min to drive from Elizabeth, NJ, to Manhattan. Hm, that translates to about 7 min of swing time. And maybe about 4 min glide time.

You're forgetting one thing. If it was supposed to be known Spidey arrived much later than Goblin, they would've told us. All this detective work you're putting in isn't necessary, especially for a show like this. I remember once before in TAS where Spidey went through a portal and landed somewhere far away from his objective, he straight up said "It's gonna take me an hour to swing back to the other side of town" (he was exaggerating a bit) or something like that.
If what you're saying about travel time is important, they would've given us a shot of GG going over the Hudson, and Spider-Man looking at him, then saying something like "Oh boy, I guess I have to use the long way around." It wasn't important, so they showed GG gliding, then next scene, Spider-Man flies through the door.

I definitely noticed Harry and those Goblin boots made him taller than Spidey, I don't know what YOU saw.

The leg injury healing holds no ground IMO. His regenerative abilities does not work that fast.

Thank goodness Harry doesn't have you guys as a jury, a guilty man would've gotten off scott-free.

I could be quoting any post of yours in this thread, not sure why i chose this one. You're fighting awfully hard to make people believe that Harry is the goblin. There's one reason above all that I believe that you're wrong.

The writers of the series have proven they're better than that. It's all pointing to something more elaborate. I don't care if you agree with me. We'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Valorman]

Norman is goblin, always has been. I'm posting this so when it's revealed their will be one solid post displaying my belief in the truth, and then, I'll have the evidence i need to dance around in my spider themed onesy.

 

[Casius--J]

Maybe its because i want it to be but i think Norman was always the green goblin and that he set up Harry to take the fall for him!

 

[Webhead2006]

Yea its likely was really norman and he learned of harry's addiction to the green forumla and used it to his advantage and set him up to take the fall for him. The goblin story is far from being finished we are likely to see more on this next season.

 

[Spectacular23]

i notice that Norman was never the Goblin,it has always been harry because he was taking the formula in the sandman,shocker,and ock episode.

 

[Webhead2006]

Well yes he was taking the forumla during those episodes and all that but there is signs pointing it was norman and their is signs pointing it could have been harry. Either it was always norman or it was always harry or maybe it was both. We dont have solid information to make a final confirmed answer on the whole goblin saga so far.

 

[Spectacular23]

Well yes he was taking the forumla during those episodes and all that but there is signs pointing it was norman and their is signs pointing it could have been harry. Either it was always norman or it was always harry or maybe it was both. We dont have solid information to make a final confirmed answer on the whole goblin saga so far.

Well the on;y reason i thought it was harry because we never saw Norman acting Insane or taking the formula.

 

[LEGO Spidey]

Well the on;y reason i thought it was harry because we never saw Norman acting Insane or taking the formula.

We don't need too, either. Not everything needs to spelled out for us. This is a kid's show in name only.

 

[Webhead2006]

Well yea but they could have designed it to trick us u know red herring and all that.

 

[Spectacular23]

Well yea but they could have designed it to trick us u know red herring and all that.

Scooby doo? hehe yea but they could have done that.But we do know that harry WAS once the goblin.