Infinity War Who will die in Infinity war Part 1 and 2

[MbJ]

Ask transformers how long it took them Them to recover once they killed prime in the 80s etc.etc.etc.

Optimus Prime was the main character of the series. At the time there was one central work: Transformers the TV series (and I guess the Marvel comic book as well), and he was the lead. If there had been various spin-off TV shows for each of the other Autobots (a Bumblebee show, a Jazz show, an Ironhide show, ect.) and they all failed once Optimus was killed off, that'd be a better example, but that's not what happened.

They're not just gambling on the possibility that people may like these other characters; there's a proven track record of audiences going to see these other films already.

 

[Joefixit]

Optimus Prime was the main character of the series. At the time there was one central work: Transformers the TV series (and I guess the Marvel comic book as well), and he was the lead. If there had been various spin-off TV shows for each of the other Autobots (a Bumblebee show, a Jazz show, an Ironhide show, ect.) and they all failed once Optimus was killed off, that'd be a better example, but that's not what happened.

They're not just gambling on the possibility that people may like these other characters; there's a proven track record of audiences going to see these other films already.

Again, agree to disagree.. if you think stark and cap are not the main characters then you haven’t been watching Marvel. Black Panther has had success here of late, but that’s not to say that he can carry the ship. Again, this universe itself was built on Stark. Marvel themselves will tell you that.. They do at every turn!! The hero who started it all is what they’d always say..

Again, not undercutting Panther’s success, but I think you’re riding a bit to high off that success.. Again, it was one film, a well done film at that.. but if you go back to civil war.. Stark and Cap were front and center as they will be in this one.

Black Panther was a cultural phenomenon, but Panther and Captain Marvel are no replacements for Cap and Stark. Again, I could be wrong.. But we will see for sure which way they go and the outcome. I don’t think Panther’sindividual films will suffer( I know I will go see them ), but when you have an Avengers film when Cap, and Stark are not there... well then we will see how that goes. Or better yet, substitute all four of the originals out and go Panther, Marvel, Ant Man and you can even throw Starange in there... let’s see how that goes . I know I wouldn’t reserve my ticket for that.. I would catch that on blu ray. Again, I’m curious to see how this next Star Wars film does without selling the nostalgia factor.

Again, I’m done.. Agree to disagree, we will just have to wait and see.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I agree in that I don't think Marvel wants to kill off too many of their most popular characters. I can see Disney not being okay with that. That's why I think we'll see maybe 1 of the big 4 die. Yes, Marvel has expanded their IPs, that is true. But, I don't think they want to limit their future slate too much by killing characters that are guaranteed hits.

 

[dyl1dyl]

I hope Scarlet Witch is safe/doesn’t die. I also don’t think Vision will die. I feel like Shuri will find a way to keep him from dying without that stone in his forehead.

My bet is on the big three: Captain America, Thor and Iron Man. One will die, one will retire and one will go either way.

I'm hoping Vision and SW survive but as we get closer, I just feel like marvel are going to off at least 1 of them

 

[ernesth100]

Death Percentage As Of April 1st
-Captain America: 82%(Permanent)
-Iron Man: 47%(Likely To Come Very Close ala Avengers)
-Hulk: 25%(Most Likely Temporary)
-Vision: 97%(Most Likely Temporary)
-Scarlet Witch: 50%(Most Likely Temporary)
-War Machine: 63%(Permanent)

Everyone Else Has No Chance Of Dying At All. And if they do it's probably gonna be an illusion.

 

[divan]

We also have to be pragmatic here. Downey, Evans, Hemsworth... These people aren't cartoons. They aren't CGI, animatronics or immortals. Sooner or later, they'll decide they either don't want to or cannot keep doing more Marvel films, so what should MS if they want to, you know, keep making movies? Sure, there's always recasting but I'd argue that's as risky of a possibility as just developing other characters. The GA doesn't really care about Iron Man or Captain America, they care about this Iron Man and this Captain America, the ones they've grown invested with for years.

If something like Guardians of the the Galaxy can make more than most Iron Man and Captain America movies (excluding Three and Civil War) I don't see why a good Captain Marvel movie can't be a MCU pillar, at least for a while. If they want to reboot/recast Iron Man down the line, inside the MCU or not, they've got it much easier if people aren't constantly thinking about Downey (and yes, even if they they kill Downey they can reboot and recast Iron Man in 15 years inside the MCU, this is a comic book universe with time travel and every sort of retcon tricks).

 

[Doc Sidisous]

In IW, we will learn Hawkeye is dead. Theres will be a funeral scene like Peggy in CW.

 

[divan]

In IW, we will learn Hawkeye is dead. Theres will be a funeral scene like Peggy in CW.

...And none of the heroes remember to go.

 

[ernesth100]

In IW, we will learn Hawkeye is dead. Theres will be a funeral scene like Peggy in CW.

Imagine the Ronin theorists

 

[AvengerPA]

http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/...engers-infinity-war-who-dies-and-who-survives

Den of Geek makes predicts likelihood of dying

26. Black Panther
25. Spider-Man
24. Star-Lord
23. Groot
22. Rocket Racoon
21. Doctor Strange and Wong
20. Ant-Man and Wasp
19. Mantis
18. Scarlet Witch
17. Gamora
16. Bucky Barnes
15. Thor
14. Black Widow
13. Falcon
12. War Machine
11. Hawkeye
10. Valkyrie
9. Hulk
8. Nebula
7. Kraglin
6. Drax the Destroyer
5. Vision
4. Heimdall
3. Loki
2. Captain America
1. Iron Man

 

[parkerpete]

The GA doesn't really care about Iron Man or Captain America, they care about this Iron Man and this Captain America, the ones they've grown invested with for years.

^THIS. When discussing the possible deaths of the 'big 4', Comic fans seem to think that either we're dealing with immortal here, or they waaaaay overestimate the general audience's attachment to the comic property over the movie character.

It's sad to seem them go, but I want a definitive end to their stories. I'm glad that the real-life nature of making movies means that we'll get meaningful closure, instead of an endless regurgitation like the comics.

I'm sure Marvel will find a way to reboot years from now when they've run out of road with the audience. But after IW, they should just focus on developing new characters and keeping their formula from getting too stale.

 

[Spider-Fan]

^THIS. When discussing the possible deaths of the 'big 4', Comic fans seem to think that either we're dealing with immortal here, or they waaaaay overestimate the general audience's attachment to the comic property over the movie character.

It's sad to seem them go, but I want a definitive end to their stories. I'm glad that the real-life nature of making movies means that we'll get meaningful closure, instead of an endless regurgitation like the comics.

I'm sure Marvel will find a way to reboot years from now when they've run out of road with the audience. But after IW, they should just focus on developing new characters and keeping their formula from getting too stale.

But why does end of the journey have to mean death? I hate how everyone always wants people to die or see it as the only resolution. Honestly, if all 4 die, that's lazy writing. I am not saying none of them should die, but to make that the only end path for them just tells me you have a lack of ideas. Further, over saturating the amount of deaths will mean each individual death will lose meaning.

 

[SteveRogers41]

But why does end of the journey have to mean death? I hate how everyone always wants people to die or see it as the only resolution. Honestly, if all 4 die, that's lazy writing. I am not saying none of them should die, but to make that the only end path for them just tells me you have a lack of ideas.

Markus and McFeely expressed the same sentiment at the SDCC panel I went to after Civil War came out when asked.

I have the panel recorded, here is their quote, verbatim:

Interviewer: I’m curious about symmetry and fidelity to the original source material. Everybody loved Mark Millar’s Civil War when it came out. And it concludes… well not ‘concludes’ but there is the death of Captain America in there. And I know he’s a franchise. It’s a brand. Maybe he can never be killed, but was that ever even on the table?

Markus: You tell Evans he has to die. Pass! Pass!

Interviewer: So was it ever on the table?

McFeely: Not for us.

Chorus of Markus and McFeely: No.

Markus: ‘Cause even in the comics it only seems like if was part of Civil War, it’s actually the beginning of that crazy… time-bullet… thing. So it’s also… when one of them dies the other one loses. And we didn’t want anyone to win or lose at the end of it. We just wanted them both to be, you know, sick to their stomach.

McFeely: We wanted to bruise them both but not dirty one up so much that you didn’t like them anymore. And we also think, and I’ve said this before, I DO NOT think that they only way you can get stakes is to kill somebody. I think that’s lazy writing.

Markus: Yes.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Markus and McFeely expressed the same sentiment at the SDCC panel I went to after Civil War came out when asked.

I have the panel recorded, here is their quote, verbatim:

I agree with them. It's lazy to just get stakes solely by killing characters. Also, it's wasteful. What if Evans wants to comeback in 5 years (or Hems, etc), but you already killed him off. So now you have to do some overly complicated thing to bring him back to life, and normally these explanations suck. But, if you just send him somewhere else, that door for a return is always open to you. Why shut that door?

Again, I am not saying none of the big 4 should probably die. But, I think if you kill more than 1 of them, you're making a mistake (and it is lazy). I know Tony and Steve are the big candidates, but even if it was say Hulk and Thor both die, it's wasteful to kill them both.

 

[MbJ]

^THIS. When discussing the possible deaths of the 'big 4', Comic fans seem to think that either we're dealing with immortal here, or they waaaaay overestimate the general audience's attachment to the comic property over the movie character.

It's sad to seem them go, but I want a definitive end to their stories. I'm glad that the real-life nature of making movies means that we'll get meaningful closure, instead of an endless regurgitation like the comics.

I'm sure Marvel will find a way to reboot years from now when they've run out of road with the audience. But after IW, they should just focus on developing new characters and keeping their formula from getting too stale.

Perfectly said.

 

[Joefixit]

But why does end of the journey have to mean death? I hate how everyone always wants people to die or see it as the only resolution. Honestly, if all 4 die, that's lazy writing. I am not saying none of them should die, but to make that the only end path for them just tells me you have a lack of ideas. Further, over saturating the amount of deaths will mean each individual death will lose meaning.

This!!!

 

[Joefixit]

Markus and McFeely expressed the same sentiment at the SDCC panel I went to after Civil War came out when asked.

I have the panel recorded, here is their quote, verbatim:

I agree with this totally!!

 

[MbJ]

 

[Dimahoo]

I'm pretty sure they'll pull some kind of Days of Future Past move.

Remember, Thanos has no weak points ( according to the directors ). So, how can you defeat something that doesn't have weak points? You can't. So, you have to be a trickster and play by the rules and try to be smarter.

At some point the Avengers will notice how most of Thanos powers are coming from his Gauntlet. I think most of the Avengers will try to come with a plan to trick Thanos, while someone tries to steal his gauntlet.

Most of the Avengers will be killed, but whoever steals the gauntlet ( I guess Iron Man does it, he started the MCU as we know ) will manage to rest time and delay these events.

What does that mean? It means that Iron Man knows everything about Thanos and he and the others can attack him before he comes to Earth. This will create 2 different timelines: One is the tragic ending with almost everyone being killed by Thanos and the other is the new one with Iron Man trying to defeat him before everything happens again.

When Thanos gets defeated, they'll destroy the gauntlet and a new timeline ( a mix of old and the new one ) will be created, the future timeline that ignores the bad future ( where Thanos kills everyone ).

I know this is confusing, but there's no other way to defeat Thanos, lol.

 

[KevTravels]

Death Percentage As Of April 1st
-Captain America: 82%(Permanent)
-Iron Man: 47%(Likely To Come Very Close ala Avengers)
-Hulk: 25%(Most Likely Temporary)
-Vision: 97%(Most Likely Temporary)
-Scarlet Witch: 50%(Most Likely Temporary)
-War Machine: 63%(Permanent)

Everyone Else Has No Chance Of Dying At All. And if they do it's probably gonna be an illusion.

Poor War Machine. Everyone wants to see him die

 

[Abudefduf]

Whoever made this must have a really low of opinion of Star-Lord and Thor.

 

[Flash525]

http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/...engers-infinity-war-who-dies-and-who-survives

Den of Geek makes predicts likelihood of dying

26. Black Panther
25. Spider-Man
24. Star-Lord
23. Groot
22. Rocket Racoon
21. Doctor Strange and Wong
20. Ant-Man and Wasp
19. Mantis
18. Scarlet Witch
17. Gamora
16. Bucky Barnes
15. Thor
14. Black Widow
13. Falcon
12. War Machine
11. Hawkeye
10. Valkyrie
9. Hulk
8. Nebula
7. Kraglin
6. Drax the Destroyer
5. Vision
4. Heimdall
3. Loki
2. Captain America
1. Iron Man

I know it isn't as inended, but the way you've wrote this, for a moment, implied that this was a list of the people who were likely to die, rather than the likelihood based off of their position.

I'm pretty sure they'll pull some kind of Days of Future Past move.

Remember, Thanos has no weak points ( according to the directors ). So, how can you defeat something that doesn't have weak points? You can't. So, you have to be a trickster and play by the rules and try to be smarter.

At some point the Avengers will notice how most of Thanos powers are coming from his Gauntlet. I think most of the Avengers will try to come with a plan to trick Thanos, while someone tries to steal his gauntlet.

Most of the Avengers will be killed, but whoever steals the gauntlet ( I guess Iron Man does it, he started the MCU as we know ) will manage to rest time and delay these events.

What does that mean? It means that Iron Man knows everything about Thanos and he and the others can attack him before he comes to Earth. This will create 2 different timelines: One is the tragic ending with almost everyone being killed by Thanos and the other is the new one with Iron Man trying to defeat him before everything happens again.

When Thanos gets defeated, they'll destroy the gauntlet and a new timeline ( a mix of old and the new one ) will be created, the future timeline that ignores the bad future ( where Thanos kills everyone ).

I know this is confusing, but there's no other way to defeat Thanos, lol.

It's not actually that confusing, and oddly, makes sense, though if one person can use the gauntlet to change time and defeat Thanos, then surely Thanos could/would be able to do the same?

I'm genuinely intrigued as to whether or not they're actually going to dive into time travel - I kind of hope they don't (too many puddles), but it's undeniably the perfect way to fix the MCU and open the door for the F4 & X-Men, of which they're no doubt going to want to take advantage of.

As much as I don't think the MCU needs the X-Men Universe, a timeline change is the perfect way to introduce a whole heap of changes into the MCU, opening doors for an MCU Blade, MCU Ghost Rider, MCU F4 and a whole host of other media.

 

[parkerpete]

But why does end of the journey have to mean death? I hate how everyone always wants people to die or see it as the only resolution. Honestly, if all 4 die, that's lazy writing. I am not saying none of them should die, but to make that the only end path for them just tells me you have a lack of ideas. Further, over saturating the amount of deaths will mean each individual death will lose meaning.

You are waaaay extrapolating from what I wrote. I don’t for a second think all 4 will die, or should. But I think at least one of them should. If we are dealing with MAJOR STAKES here, that has to happen. Anything less is a cheat and audiences (like me) will slowly tune out the MCU like the comics because nothing will really matter going forward.

 

[Flash525]

I don't think one big death is going to cut it. I think we'll need at least two. I can definitely see Stark (or) Rogers dying in the sequel (not both) and I can actually see Hulk dying too (if not dying, then Banner losing the ability to Hulk Out, or some body of body split).

Of the original main few, I think Thor is the only candidate likely to survive this whole ordeal for definite.

 

[Delwin]

From the plot point it does not make sense to kill Thor - he just lost his world an dalmost all people. I believe that he may go "another path" to create a new Asgard and he may (temporarily) drops off from main storyline.

From the same point of view both Cap and IM "make sense" to be killed off but there are comic ways to "end" character - another dimensions, stasis or sth similar. If not for WM plot in CW also permanent injury would be possible "end game" for character.

Still - I would bet for either IM or Cap. It is enough shocking for the viewers but we need still to remember that this is Disney so - no deaths are option as well.