Who would win? Heroes character vs. comic book character...

[November Rain]

i think most people have since he hasn't utilised it in a long time, we just assume he has everyone else's powers.

it's a shame they haven't really kept that essence of the character

 

[louiebling$]

Peter>Supes

 

[3dman27]

i wonder who clair bennetwill be matched up against?

 

[November Rain]

there's no point, she has absolutely no fighting skills, or any real versatility. she's still the damsel in distress in the show and has no offensive abilities.

 

[04nbod]

Peter's telekinesis and super strength aren't strong enough to even make Superman exert himself even slightly. Supeman is also invulnerable whereas Peter would break his hand on Superman's body.

Since when is superman invulnerable to telekenisis? Also Nikki's super strength was never measured.

 

[Neptune]

She did tear people in half. I miss Jessica She was so ruthless.

 

[Nitehawk013]

I have doubts about whether they could steal Supes powers or mimc them. Supes powers are not adrenal based like powers in the Heroes verse. They are the natural effect of yellow sun on his kryptonian DNA. Unless Arthurs or Petes power allowed them to change his DNA, I doubt they could steal or mimic his abilities.

 

[Nokio]

I have doubts about whether they could steal Supes powers or mimc them. Supes powers are not adrenal based like powers in the Heroes verse. They are the natural effect of yellow sun on his kryptonian DNA. Unless Arthurs or Petes power allowed them to change his DNA, I doubt they could steal or mimic his abilities.

Amen! some are determined to have the Hero characters beat Supes. They seem to forget that Superman has been battling superpowered beings for years and that the man has a ton of expeirence.

 

[November Rain]

to be fair, pete has shown he can steal different types of powers whether inherited or synthetic...

i'm sure he could take superman's. that's not to say he could take him in a fight though but it could make things far more interesting.

 

[Nitehawk013]

Peter has shown he can steal powers, genetic or synthetic, in the Heroes universe where both types are rooted in the adrenal glands and neurologically/emotionally centered.

Supes powers are neither. They are not actually powers. They are a natural result of the yellow suns radiation on his alien DNA.

That is why I am saying that unless Peter's power suddenly allows him to become a kryptonian with kryptonian DNA, he cannot mimic Supes.

 

[November Rain]

if parasite can steal them, then why can't peter?

plenty of other mimmics from dc have been capable of mimmicing supes' powers.

I'm not saying peter would stand anymore of a chance, just that he would be able to take onboard those powers that superman had.

 

[Lord Doom]

I would think that Peter would not be able to copy Superman's powers simply because they are a part of his genetic Kryptonian heritage. On the other hand, Rain did bring up a good point when she mentioned Parasite. I remember that, in the animated series, he had the power to mimic the abilities of anything he touched be it person, animal, or object. I'm not sure if this was the case in the comics (never really paid much attention to Superman) but, if this is the case, then Parasite's abilitiy-stealing power would be different from Peter's.

 

[Shemtov]

peter vs. iron man?
he cant obtain tonys "powers" yet his prexisting powers make him a good match for iron man

 

[Jimmy, GL]

All supes has to do is move the moon in front of the sun and there ya go, no more powers for the Heroes.

 

[CrimsonDeath]

actually i've completely forgotten that peter can steal superman's powers...

peter with superman's powers could be something...

and arthur could potentially drain him of everything if he gets in his viscinity.

what's to stop a timefreeze and power drain?

But all the Heroes' powers are based on similar genetic sequences that are somehow affected by the eclipses and a catalyst.
I don't know if Superman is affected by eclipses or not, his powers based on solar energies, but the DCU and Marvel superpowered individuals would not be affected by eclipses either. Would Peter be able to mimic or drain their specific genetic sequences and thus absorb their powers? Whatever makes the Heroes' powers work would not affect heroes of other universes. Or would it?
Maybe Mohinder can kidnap heroes of all the different universes and experiment on them.

 

[RootBeerMaster]

While I do not think peter can steal Superman's powers, leaveing superman to be far faster and stronger with all his other powers, I do think peter would win the fight. due to freezeing time, now if superman is moving this of course will not work however if superman is isn't superspeeding but standing there waiting for peter, then when peter stops time, superman would be stop, note hiro does this to Daphne in the episode he pretends to killer Ando, and she has no clue if though she can move when time is frozen witch mean superman might be able to as well. Also Peter can enter superman's mind, superman has no powers from an attack like this while telekiness won't work, mind reading and controling will. also all of those vision superman has won't allow him to see something that is invisable and can phase threw objects, has well has him I would guess. Not to mention peter not only dreams about but can paint the future so he would have Kryptonight or teleport superman to where there was lots of the stuff, and would know about red sunlight due to syler's powers of understanding how things work and teleport Superman there, or my personal favorite he could just put Superman in the body of Jimmy Oslon no Real threat now, so I got to go with peter.


also I would love to see a duel between nightcrawler and Hiro with Hiro not freezing time. that would be an awsome fight.

 

[Jimmy, GL]

While I do not think peter can steal Superman's powers, leaveing superman to be far faster and stronger with all his other powers, I do think peter would win the fight. due to freezeing time, now if superman is moving this of course will not work however if superman is isn't superspeeding but standing there waiting for peter, then when peter stops time, superman would be stop, note hiro does this to Daphne in the episode he pretends to killer Ando, and she has no clue if though she can move when time is frozen witch mean superman might be able to as well. Also Peter can enter superman's mind, superman has no powers from an attack like this while telekiness won't work, mind reading and controling will. also all of those vision superman has won't allow him to see something that is invisable and can phase threw objects, has well has him I would guess. Not to mention peter not only dreams about but can paint the future so he would have Kryptonight or teleport superman to where there was lots of the stuff, and would know about red sunlight due to syler's powers of understanding how things work and teleport Superman there, or my personal favorite he could just put Superman in the body of Jimmy Oslon no Real threat now, so I got to go with peter.


also I would love to see a duel between nightcrawler and Hiro with Hiro not freezing time. that would be an awsome fight.

Haven't we already talked about how Superman's mind is much, much, more complex than a normal humans? This would almost prevent Peter's being able to do so as Matt couldn't even get into Hiro's mind because all Hiro could speak was Japanese. Matt's had the powers longer and has been able to gain even more control over them. Peter on the other hand has a very limited version of the power due to him not having as much experience. Supe's 1/Peter 0

Peter being able to paint the future wouldn't let him know where there was any Kryptonite. It doesn't locate things, only tell what may happen, and so far there is no indication of that ability being controlled to paint what the user wants or a certain thing the user wants to see, it just happens and the user paints random future events. Supe's 2/Peter 0

Supe's vision would in fact let him be able to see Peter while invisible as Peter would only be refracting light to not be seen in the normal light spectrum. Supe's however can see in several different light spectrums including infared and ultraviolet, either of which would let Supe's identify Peter because of his heat signature. Supe's 3/Peter 0

On the point of the Kryptonite Supe's would fly away from the range of the Kryptonite's radiation instead of just being drained by it. Although the red sun idea would definitely work. Although the reasoning behind it is definitely wrong, with Sylar's power Peter would need to actually peek into Supe's brain by taking off the top of Supe's head, which I believe would not work. So the standing is still, Supe's 4/Peter 0

For the final point, the way Peter transferred his past self into the bad guy in the first place was because of his mind control ability (I think) so again I'm not sure if this would with Supe's due to his physiology. I won't grade this one cause I'm not sure about who would win as I'm not completely sure exactly which power Peter used at this point.

So the final standings? Supe's 4/Peter 0

 

[The Apocalypse]

LMAO @ people who actually think Peter is even smart enough to beat Supes.

 

[November Rain]

But all the Heroes' powers are based on similar genetic sequences that are somehow affected by the eclipses and a catalyst.
I don't know if Superman is affected by eclipses or not, his powers based on solar energies, but the DCU and Marvel superpowered individuals would not be affected by eclipses either. Would Peter be able to mimic or drain their specific genetic sequences and thus absorb their powers? Whatever makes the Heroes' powers work would not affect heroes of other universes. Or would it?
Maybe Mohinder can kidnap heroes of all the different universes and experiment on them.

absorbing and stealing powers is absorbing and stealing powers.

synch in the xmen has been able to steal powers from a non-mutant source aka spidey where his genetics work differently

rogue has been able to take non-mutant powers and also absorb powers from the juggernaut where his source is mystical

the same has occured with sauron where his absorbing of powers has happened across the range of humans, mutants and non mutants alike.

again parasite in dc and other power absorbers have managed to take powers from a whole array of different sources and manipulate them.

so if someone has an inherent ability to 'absorb' rather than manipulate powers, then surely the same can be said about anyone from any universe performing the same feat.

just as how thor's hammer enchantment is universal.

 

[November Rain]

LMAO @ people who actually think Peter is even smart enough to beat Supes.

probably not his current incarnation but his future incarnation probably teamed up with future hiro could have a decent crack.

 

[Nitehawk013]

Um..I think you are ASSUMING that Pete's power works the same as Synch, Rogue or Parasite. You nor I have any proof his empathic mimicry functions as those characters abilities to absorb or steal powers.

 

[MAN O STEEL]

ppl seem to forget that no matter how much power a villian or hero will have, Superman will always win, he is the greatest living hero. He has the smarts, the stamina, the heart & skill to outdo any opponent. He's the ultimate example of bravery, the best humanity has to offer. Peter is an angsty ****** who falls over his own power most of the time & gets manipulated easy by ppl like Adam. he's no match for the greatest of them all.






Steve

 

[Anubis]

While I do agree that Pete doesn't really stand a chance, all that stuff you just said is meaningless in a fight.

 

[Nitehawk013]

Current Peter sometimes seems like he is one bad day away from starting an Emo band.

Supes is so awesome he can get away with wearing his red undies on the outside of his tights, and make it a cultural icon.

Peter has no chance. LOL.

 

[November Rain]

Um..I think you are ASSUMING that Pete's power works the same as Synch, Rogue or Parasite. You nor I have any proof his empathic mimicry functions as those characters abilities to absorb or steal powers.

but you're assuming it doesn't

you're also assuming the yellow sun in the heroes universe will grant superman the same amount of powers as he has before.

The thing is that rogue's,sauron's, synch's and parasites all have powers that work differently yet still work.

if we are going to assume a fight scenario, why don't we assume everyone's powers work on everything so at least there is a level playing field.

pete's power essentially is to steal powers so....meh....