Why Can't DC Get it right?

[Spidey-Quad]

Good news today! WB finally moving forward Darkman... I mean Batman 3 and Superman!!! in 2012. Close on Flash and working on Aqua, WW, & MAD???

Time will tell beyond the first two, but fingers are crossed!

 

[hippie_hunter]

I would die a very happy man if they made an Aquaman movie.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Me too. Aquaman ****in' rocks! t:

 

[Mr. Earle]

I'd be interested to see Atlantis and some badass fights, but i dont think it has a chance for success. Aquaman doesnt even have a comic book series, so i'd rather they do a WW or Flash film. It'd be a nice chance to rework Diana, her costume, etc in movies and comics. Her comics sales arent exactly great, you know? A successful movie could pave the road for some refinements in the comics.

 

[JackMercy]

::ahem::

http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2010/05/green-lantern-slide-from-warners-presentation-pic.html

 

[Crook]

I'd be interested to see Atlantis and some badass fights, but i dont think it has a chance for success. Aquaman doesnt even have a comic book series, so i'd rather they do a WW or Flash film.

Out of these three I still think Flash has the weakest potential simply because his world isn't all that grand. WW has greek myth and the most badass female warriors roaming around. Aquaman has an entire city underwater, and practically anything involving the oceans is a backdrop. These two franchises are quite huge in scale that I don't think Flash will ever amount to.

 

[Octoberist]

Out of these three I still think Flash has the weakest potential simply because his world isn't all that grand. WW has greek myth and the most badass female warriors roaming around. Aquaman has an entire city underwater, and practically anything involving the oceans is a backdrop. These two franchises are quite huge in scale that I don't think Flash will ever amount to.

In the defense of The Flash, I've got to say this:

While Wonder Woman has a Greek myth vibe and Aquaman has fantastical imagery, I really think that the appeal of The Flash is mostly character based.

On the surface, The Flash has powers that are overshadowed by a hero like Superman. But I think why people liked Barry and Wally was that they were likable characters done as just normal people involved in extraordinary situations.

Same thing with the Rogues; on the surface, they're cheesy but that's the point. They're a bunch of rejects, and they're rejects who are both self aware and have a 'code'.

I feel like, with the world that Geoff Johns created with wally and most recently Barry, this could have the same tone as The Incredibles. A colorful world with colorful characters; so you're either go with it or you don't.

Also, Aquaman, despite the potential on how cool he could be in a movie, has a very very tainted public image. WB has to go all the way to really fix it. Even in the comics, he's somewhat underused. Hell, Wonder Woman is really underused as well.

The Flash has the upper-hand in the printed department. Despite some ups and downs in recent years, it's just going up now with the new series.

 

[Rumpy Bulge Dubz]

I'm just glad they're finally moving forward with these properties. Here's to hoping they don't F it up

and does anyone else feel that if "Green Lantern" fails, we won't be seeing any of these get made. I just got the gut feeling that they're looking towards whether or not GL's a success (if it is, they'll move forward with Flash, WW) etc, if it fails, don't get your hopes up

 

[MadVillainy]

Eh call me pessimistic but them just saying Flash is close to being greenlit doesn't mean much to me.
Theyve had directors attached, an actor who was in final negotiations and the project has still fallen through

But I still hope for the best

and does anyone else feel that if "Green Lantern" fails, we won't be seeing any of these get made. I just got the gut feeling that they're looking towards whether or not GL's a success (if it is, they'll move forward with Flash, WW) etc, if it fails, don't get your hopes up

I think your right but I really doubt GL will fail.

 

[Rumpy Bulge Dubz]

^that's what I'm saying

These properties aren't as (official) as the article makes them out to be. I wouldn't get my hopes at all for any of these (especially if GL fails at the box office). ONLY if GL is a success will we even have a 50% chance of these films being completed

 

[Mr. Earle]

Out of these three I still think Flash has the weakest potential simply because his world isn't all that grand. WW has greek myth and the most badass female warriors roaming around. Aquaman has an entire city underwater, and practically anything involving the oceans is a backdrop. These two franchises are quite huge in scale that I don't think Flash will ever amount to.

You make a good point.

In the defense of The Flash, I've got to say this:

While Wonder Woman has a Greek myth vibe and Aquaman has fantastical imagery, I really think that the appeal of The Flash is mostly character based.

On the surface, The Flash has powers that are overshadowed by a hero like Superman. But I think why people liked Barry and Wally was that they were likable characters done as just normal people involved in extraordinary situations.

Same thing with the Rogues; on the surface, they're cheesy but that's the point. They're a bunch of rejects, and they're rejects who are both self aware and have a 'code'.

I feel like, with the world that Geoff Johns created with wally and most recently Barry, this could have the same tone as The Incredibles. A colorful world with colorful characters; so you're either go with it or you don't.

Also, Aquaman, despite the potential on how cool he could be in a movie, has a very very tainted public image. WB has to go all the way to really fix it. Even in the comics, he's somewhat underused. Hell, Wonder Woman is really underused as well.

The Flash has the upper-hand in the printed department. Despite some ups and downs in recent years, it's just going up now with the new series.

I agree. Flash could work if it was set up like Spiderman and it was more lighthearted. Not F4 lighthearted though.

 

[Spidey-Quad]

With Flash they need a strong story, and use some real imaginative ways for him to use his powers. Maybe a time related story and Barry having to fix the time fabric. I also agree on keeping it light, or better said upbeat and positive. But please no corn. Keep it serious.

 

[Octoberist]

^that's what I'm saying

These properties aren't as (official) as the article makes them out to be. I wouldn't get my hopes at all for any of these (especially if GL fails at the box office). ONLY if GL is a success will we even have a 50% chance of these films being completed

that's why with Green Lantern, it has to have two qualities:

a.) Be a great movie with good word of mouth

b.) great marketing

Meaning that, WB needs to push it and push it ALL THE WAY.

 

[Rumpy Bulge Dubz]

that's why with Green Lantern, it has to have two qualities:

a.) Be a great movie with good word of mouth

b.) great marketing

Meaning that, WB needs to push it and push it ALL THE WAY.

agreed

I want to see posters everywhere inlcluding on the sides of buses and at bus stops, constant commercials, merchandise (action figures, fast food toys, clothes, soundtrack, video game) etc.

Reynolds should be out doing morning, evening and night talk shows, photo shoots, and such

 

[Evil Twin]

I'm of the opinion that people underestimate the scope of The Flash. He has a deep Rogues gallery, and his history is filled with sci-fi/superhero conceits. Time travel. Parallel worlds. Invisible gorilla cities. Dimensional invaders. Straight up super crooks. An immortal caveman conqueror. An awareness of superhero tropes. Legacy. And the Speed Force. There are 6 or 7 solid movie concepts right there.

Just a simple idea like The Shade traps The Flash in the shadow dimension and he has to escape from it could be a lot of fun on the big screen.

The Flash isn't really tied to Central City like Batman is to Gotham as well. That's obviously the starting point for an adventure, but you have a lot of room to play.

 

[Octoberist]

But I think that even the casual fan likes The Flash already, only because they know that the character, regardless if it's Barry or Wally, is full of humor, heroics and charm.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

The Flash is just a really likable and relatable guy. Well, Wally is anyway. He's a charismatic character. He's like the Johnny Storm/Spider-Man of the DCU... and pretty much everyone likes Johnny Storm/Spider-Man.

I'd prefer to see a movie about a really charismatic character like Flash over Wonder Woman or Aquaman anyday. But don't get me wrong i do love those two.

 

[Hound55]

The Flash is just a really likable and relatable guy. Well, Wally is anyway. He's a charismatic character. He's like the Johnny Storm/Spider-Man of the DCU... and pretty much everyone likes Johnny Storm/Spider-Man.

I'd prefer to see a movie about a really charismatic character like Flash over Wonder Woman or Aquaman anyday. But don't get me wrong i do love those two.

Agreed on all counts.

Main difference between Johnny and Flash to me is that I prefer my Flash with a bit less ego and he's a tad more self-aware.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Well yea, Johnny can be a bit annoying with his ego sometimes to be fair. But they both have a similar sorta personality.

 

[Mr. Earle]

The Flash is just a really likable and relatable guy. Well, Wally is anyway. He's a charismatic character. He's like the Johnny Storm/Spider-Man of the DCU... and pretty much everyone likes Johnny Storm/Spider-Man.

I'd prefer to see a movie about a really charismatic character like Flash over Wonder Woman or Aquaman anyday. But don't get me wrong i do love those two.

Yeah, but like Crook said while WW has Themiscyra, Greek gods and monsters and Aquaman has Atlantis and sea creatures, Flash just runs fast. He doesnt have much to make for a blockbuster that will draw the general audience. Blockbusters these days are huge and a cool guy that runs fast might not be enough.

That said, if they used his powers well they could produce the necessary grandeur. Also I dont know Barry that well, but just like you said Wally has personality and charisma in spades (and they could use traits of the JLU Wally who's even more lighthearted) and they could write a powerful story with time travel where Wally is trying to save his ancestors, his loved ones and the whole world.

As for Barry, they could use him like the Zorro movies used the first Anthony Hopkins Zorro (we see him train Wally and then die), or not use him at all. However the fact that he's been a superhero his whole life (first as Barry's sidekick and student and then as Flash himself) is a big part of his character.

 

[Hound55]

I agree. Its not huge difference and depending on the writers it can be quite negligible.

Flash's self-abasing sense of humour can often make him so likeable... he doesn't always win and it makes him more relatable than most. Like Spidey too. But I doubt he'd deal his marriage to the devil...

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Barry has the personality of a mop bucket, so no to him getting a movie.

I think Flash could be pretty epic though. Remember the Incredibles? That part where Dash was running across the water? That gave me chills man, it was sick. Flash has the potential to be awesome.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I bet you $1 million that the Flash in the movie will be Barry and not Wally.

 

[Mr. Earle]

Barry has the personality of a mop bucket, so no to him getting a movie.

I think Flash could be pretty epic though. Remember the Incredibles? That part where Dash was running across the water? That gave me chills man, it was sick. Flash has the potential to be awesome.

You hear that? That's Geoff Johns loading his shotgun outside your door.

I bet you $1 million that the Flash in the movie will be Barry and not Wally.

With Johns in charge of DC Entertainment Barry is a sure bet.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea and it will be a stupid decision. Like i said... Barry has the personality of a mop bucket. Wally actually has a personality, an entertaining one at that.

Maaaaan **** Geoff Johns and his Mary Sue Hal Jordan's and Barry Allen's.