Why were the New Warriors blamed for Stamford?

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Why were the New Warriors blamed for Stamford? Sure they were stupid and reckless, but Nitro is an evil, psychopathic old man and was one who actually committed the crime. When a crime is committed, doesn't responsibility lie with the criminal that committed it? Who should really be blamed, the stupid kids (New warriors) or the evil psychopathic old man (Nitro)?
 
Because they were recorded admitting that they were out of their league fighting the group of criminals that included Nitro, yet they went in anyways for TV ratings.

Nitro was the one who did it, but the New Warriors are definetely guilty of criminal negligence because if they didn't charge in there, Nitro wouldn't have gone off.
 
Because they were recorded admitting that they were out of their league fighting the group of criminals that included Nitro, yet they went in anyways for TV ratings.

Nitro was the one who did it, but the New Warriors are definetely guilty of criminal negligence because if they didn't charge in there, Nitro wouldn't have gone off.

The problem is almost no one was blaming Nitro for Stamford. Why weren't crowds burning Nitro in effigy? Why did the government set up a giant task force to enforce the SHRA, but Nitro's capture only warrants a few SHIELD agents and Wolverine? Seems like everyone there has screwed up priorities. If the cops botched a raid and a criminal killed a bunch of hostages in response, wouldn't the criminal actually get most of the blame?
 
^You'd be surprised. Even cops who do their jobs to the letter get blamed and scapegoated a lot of times for things that go wrong. And things will go wrong, in that kind of business.

Basically what you have to understand about the MU's logic post-Stamford is that it wasn't very logical. They were grieving, they were angry, they were fearful and paranoid, and they wanted someone other than "just another random supervillain" to blame for a disaster of this magnitude. Add to this the fact that the Marvel universe public generally has a very reactionary and biased attitude against superpowered beings in the first place, heroes or not, and it's not hard to see where the angry mobs and the mass protests would begin. I mean, this is the exact same public who thought that lynching mutants in public and hunting them down with giant robots was perfectly acceptable just a few years back.

Yes, logically Nitro blew up Stamford and should be public enemy number one. I agree with you; Nitro was the one who exploded and the NW were the ones trying to stop him explode, that's really what it boils down to at its core...but you try telling that to the grieving mothers who have just found out that maybe if the New Warriors weren't so overconfident and maybe if they weren't chasing reality TV ratings and tackling villains out of their league, maybe three hundred people would still be alive. Nitro was evil. The New Warriors were irresponsible. In this situation, the collective minds of the public chose to interpret "irresponsible" as the bigger threat to crucify.
 
because the story required it
 
Why were they blamed for it? Because they were responsible for it.
 
The Avengers werent blamed for deaths that were caused during their fights???
 
No, but the avengers didn't spout on national TV that they shouldn't do this because they can't match up with the powers, but they're going to do it anyway for the ratings.

You know, when the badguys were just havin a nice houseparty, the bunch of jackasses barge through and attack them.
 
How were they out gunned when they took out a herald of Galactus in their first outing???
 
Of course nobody blames they guy who gave Nitro MGH
 
It's like being mad at the pilots on 9/11 instead of the terrorists
 
How were they out gunned when they took out a herald of Galactus in their first outing???

Yeah, they also had Nova on the team at that time too, so lets not try to twist "teh logic" here.
 
I am not trying to twist "teh logic" but i dont remember Nova being that important to the win
 
Then you need to go back and re-read that ****.

And lets not forget that Nitro was a Captain Marvel villain. He wasn't some scrub.
 
Nova wasn't exactly top dollar at the time of the New Warriors' first outing, though.
 
Nova wasn't exactly top dollar at the time of the New Warriors' first outing, though.

Of course he wasn't, but he was probably the most powerful member of the team at the time, while in Civil War, Namorita was. Kind of a step down wouldn't you say?
 
It's like being mad at the pilots on 9/11 instead of the terrorists

No, I think it's more like blaming the government for 9/11. One can make the arguement that their lack of action along with foreign policies are what led to the attacks.
 
No it's not. It's like blaming whoever was responsible for the attack, whoever the middleeast country was or terrorist group was that america believed for so long. New Warriors were responsible because had they not of done that, Nitro wasn't going to go blow up that school.

It's not like he had a checklist that said "today: brush teeth. take shower. eat bagels. throw houseparty with lots of villians. blow up stamford. go home and sleep."" or anything.
 
No it's not. It's like blaming whoever was responsible for the attack, whoever the middleeast country was or terrorist group was that america believed for so long. New Warriors were responsible because had they not of done that, Nitro wasn't going to go blow up that school.

It's not like he had a checklist that said "today: brush teeth. take shower. eat bagels. throw houseparty with lots of villians. blow up stamford. go home and sleep."" or anything.

According to Wolverine: Civil war, Damage Control gave MGH to Nitro because they thought he blow up a huge area, so they could rebuild it. Nitro is a psychopath who doesn't value anyone except himself. He struck his daughter and forced her to help him with him with his crimes, if he doesn't care about his daughter, why would he care about anyone else. Nitro is a psychopath, he would have blown some area for some petty reason, sooner or later.
 
Of course he wasn't, but he was probably the most powerful member of the team at the time, while in Civil War, Namorita was. Kind of a step down wouldn't you say?
It's not like Namorita is chopped liver. I'd call them about equal by that time.
 
No it's not. It's like blaming whoever was responsible for the attack, whoever the middleeast country was or terrorist group was that america believed for so long. New Warriors were responsible because had they not of done that, Nitro wasn't going to go blow up that school.

I disagree, people expect thier government to protect them (not another country, especially one that may harbour terrorists) which the American government failed to do, just like people expect super hero's to protect them and not place them in danger. When The New Warriors attacked Nitro they were no longer protecting the people they were placing them in danger by being careless and reckless. And rightfully, they should share the blame. Plus this is the U.S we're talking about and they love to tear down their hero's. Just look at poor Michael Jackson. :csad:
 

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