BvS Will Batman V Superman be a Modern Day Heat?

[Clarkester]

After watching the clip “Consider This Mercy” It slowly dawned (no pun) on me. This film (on the surface) may share similarities to the Michael Mann directed Heat (1996).

In Heat, two icons of film Deniro and Pacino, share the screen for the first time. This Crime Drama, contains a plethora of interesting supporting characters, that drives the narrative forward, whilst delivering a meaty story with depth. Though, the basic through line, is beautifully simplistic.

It seems that within the narrative framework of Batman V Superman, two iconic characters’ share the silver screen for the first time in a feature film, within this Super Hero Action Drama. These two personalities, are surrounded by an array of supporting characters, that will also help drive the narrative.

They will collide! You can classify them as opposite sides of a coin, or possibly the same coin, one with a little more shine.

Don’t get me wrong, in no way am I comparing director Zach Snyder with Mann in his prime. Neither do I compare Cavill and Affleck to Deniro and Pacino.

Since Heat, is a MASTERWORK (what the hell happened to Michael Mann, by the way) of modern cinema. Nolan was obviously influenced by this film when making The Dark Knight (yet, in my opinion, didn’t come close to its greatness)

I think it bears food for thought.

 

[Fallen Angel]

I can see where you're coming from but no.

Although if it ends with Batman shooting Superman with Kryptonite bullets and then holding his hands with Moby's music playing, I'll give you a $1billion.

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[souperman]

Be careful...For a billion, it may be worth a rewrite and reshooting of the ending for WB.

 

[samsnee]

I think it will be a modern There's Something About Mary

 

[PopeAdrian37th]

Heat is one of my all time favorite movies. The layering to the characters was above and beyond. The only way I see the two being comparable is in the amount of consideration that Snyder will put into each shot the way Mann did.

 

[BH/HHH]

I never really liked Heat in all honesty, thought it was very overrated

 

[Fallen Angel]

I never really liked Heat in all honesty, thought it was very overrated

Directors to this day are copying Michael Mann's HEAT directly or indirectly.

 

[BH/HHH]

Directors to this day are copying Michael Mann's HEAT directly or indirectly.

Nothing wrong with disliking sonething, not a fan of Blade Runner either yet that seems to be universally loved. Sometimes even a film someone dislikes can still influence other films that they will end up liking. Doesn't mean you have to like the thing that inspired it.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Nothing wrong with disliking sonething, not a fan of Blade Runner either yet that seems to be universally loved. Sometimes even a film someone dislikes can still influence other films that they will end up liking. Doesn't mean you have to like the thing that inspired it.

 

[BH/HHH]

I'm sowwy t:

 

[PopeAdrian37th]

I never really liked Heat in all honesty, thought it was very overrated

Though I do agree with you about Blade Runner.

 

[jmc]

The Dark Knight was a modern day Heat. In fact there are shots which match almost identically in the two films.

 

[King23DC]

Directors to this day are copying Michael Mann's HEAT directly or indirectly.

Seriously ... this dudes opinions are garbage. Kilmer "nailed Batman" and Heat being overrated.

SMH

And to op as a comic book version of Heat. And even in terms of cinematic greatness in general, The Dark Knight is certainly on its level.

It was an instant cinematic classic. Just like Heat itself. Two transcendent directors. Who both coincidentally grew up in Chicago.

 

[Bren]

It's his opinion and while you can be free to disagree, calling his opinion 'garbage' tells me a lot about you.

 

[Clark-Kent]

I never really liked Heat in all honesty, thought it was very overrated

 

[BH/HHH]

Seriously ... this dudes opinions are garbage. Kilmer "nailed Batman" and Heat being overrated.

SMH

And to op as a comic book version of Heat. And even in terms of cinematic greatness in general, The Dark Knight is certainly on its level.

It was an instant cinematic classic. Just like Heat itself. Two transcendent directors. Who both coincidentally grew up in Chicago.

My opinions are garbage? Learn a little respect.

We can't all agree and like the same things.

 

[flickchick85]

Disagree all you want, but let's not start insulting each others' opinions, please.

 

[TheFuture]

A modern day Heat would be unlikely but I like your optimism OP.

I think BvS will be very much it's own beast without peers, for better or worse. Say what you want about Snyder but a "biter" he isn't.

 

[Clarkester]

The Dark Knight was a modern day Heat. In fact there are shots which match almost identically in the two films.

The Dark Knight emulated (and aspired) to Heat in terms of a visual and technical aesthetic. Does it deliver on the overreaching themes?

Yes. No. Maybe. I don't think so.

Two men who are completely whole and without compromise, dedicated to what they do, and how this affects the people closest to them. Every single character, is interwoven (so three dimensional, they could walk through the television screen into your living room) smoothly into the context of the story.

It is a simplistic Crime/Drama through line. Nevertheless, the dramatic pull of these people, is at times, both beautiful and tragic.

I suppose TDK has some of this, and as a film based on characters from a graphic novel. It is most likely the best, there is. I just don't think it touches the greatness of Mann's Magnum Opus (flip the coin between this and The Insider). I definitely don't see Batman V Superman getting anywhere near this either (it will have far to reach to even be in The Dark Knight's shadow).

I do have a distinct feeling that the themes might resonate, and be closer to the Mann's film.

 

[wnjcwjkk]

I am about as big of an Al and Bobby D fan as you will find, have been since I was 12 years old, but I can see where BH/HHH is coming from. I've watched Heat a couple times in my life, but it's not one of those movies that I have to return to every couple years, like The Godfathers, Deer Hunter, The Scorsese DeNiro movies, Scarface, Serpico, Once Upon A Time In America, etc. I mean, I like it for the obvious reasons that it's my two favorites pitted against one another, but if it were the exact same movie with two other actors, I probably wouldn't think much of it other than its just a heist movie.


But, yeah, I totally agree that Heat and BvS are in the same category, a genre movie that is an event in and of itself, marketed as of it were a Heavyweight Matchup, and I really can't think of any other examples at the moment, but there are probably a couple more.

If you go back to the early days of Hollywood in the 30's, then The Roaring Twenties, James Cagney vs Humphrey Bogart, maybe? Although they were also opposite one another in Angels With Dirty Faces, but that was less of a "versus" situation