Will People go to see Thor and Captain America?

[javi1024]

Captain America can be as huge and inspirational as Superman the Movie if done right- his whole purpose is to inspire. now Thor...he's tricky, he really is. i can't see a viking god flying around manhattan. and i would say to go as extreme as LOTR because that might be the easiest way to bring him to film, but then he would clash when they put together the Avengers.

that's the main reason i'm against the Avengers and Justice League movies, because i'd rather see these characters individually in setting that they can easily be seen on film and taken seriously- that's why i REALLY want to see Joss Whedon's mythological Wonder Woman, instead of trying to place these diverse characters into one universe and have one massive $200 million box-office bomb.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Yeah but if they recast and make it its own universe in an ensemble film then you screw up continuity (like they are doing with JLA). THe whole lure of Avengers is to see these characters on the big screen together at once. It doesn't mean it's going to bomb just because of one character though. I know we have Thor threads talking about this already but as you said... if you go LOTR then you are ****ed when Avengers rolls around. A good example is something like Harry Potter where you go back and forth into muggle world and wizard fantasy land. The thing that worries me is that the script is 100% Asgard. And that's a mistake. Then you have to connect the bridge with a Thor appearance in IM2... which Favreau recently ruled out (although I am not 100% convinced)... then you end up messing IM2 on top of that. Instead we need a script that includes the Earth transition... which is why I'd favor a story from the Donald Blake perspective even if it's for a limited amount of time.

 

[WarBlade]

Your joking right???

No. I was being quite serious. Outside of Americans, who seem to view the character as a household name, the world is largely oblivious to this character. The Hulk had a TV show. Superman, Spider-Man and Batman have had similar successes in various media. Some people remember Wonder Woman and some recall The Flash. Wolverine had a little bit of recognition... But after those, there's not a lot there that people outside of comicbook readers (and maybe a few gamers?) the character drops into obscurity.

So like I said, it will have to stand on its own two legs as a movie. The built-in fan base is not as big as many people here give it credit for.

 

[javi1024]

No. I was being quite serious. Outside of Americans, who seem to view the character as a household name, the world is largely oblivious to this character. The Hulk had a TV show. Superman, Spider-Man and Batman have had similar successes in various media. Some people remember Wonder Woman and some recall The Flash. Wolverine had a little bit of recognition... But after those, there's not a lot there that people outside of comicbook readers (and maybe a few gamers?) the character drops into obscurity.

So like I said, it will have to stand on its own two legs as a movie. The built-in fan base is not as big as many people here give it credit for.

i can believe that. i live in the States, but i feel the most famous superheroes are only: 1) Superman 2) Batman 3) Spider-Man. now thanks to the 90's cartoons and especially the recent films people like Iron Man, Wolverine, and Magneto are becoming household names. but as far as the mass audience/world is concerned i think those 3 are on a level all their own.

 

[avengerscaptain]

i can believe that. i live in the States, but i feel the most famous superheroes are only: 1) Superman 2) Batman 3) Spider-Man. now thanks to the 90's cartoons and especially the recent films people like Iron Man, Wolverine, and Magneto are becoming household names. but as far as the mass audience/world is concerned i think those 3 are on a level all their own.

I believe in Wizard's top 100 comic book character's Captain America was ranked 7th. Villians were included and Joker was 5th overalll 2 ahead of Captain.
To me Captain is top 5 if not top 3 behind Superman and Batman.

People - (especially comic book fans) will all go and see these two movies IF and only IF the men who play the iconic superhero's look the part first and foremost. If Marvel just tries to cram a couple great actors down people's throats who look nothing like the characters in the face or the physique with all hype and no believable looks these movies will bomb and be horrible.

I'm confident Marvel will find the right people like they did with Jackman as Wolverine and how DC found Brandon Routh.

 

[vicsage83]

I believe in Wizard's top 100 comic book character's Captain America was ranked 7th. Villians were included and Joker was 5th overalll 2 ahead of Captain.
To me Captain is top 5 if not top 3 behind Superman and Batman.

People - (especially comic book fans) will all go and see these two movies IF and only IF the men who play the iconic superhero's look the part first and foremost. If Marvel just tries to cram a couple great actors down people's throats who look nothing like the characters in the face or the physique with all hype and no believable looks these movies will bomb and be horrible.

I'm confident Marvel will find the right people like they did with Jackman as Wolverine and how DC found Brandon Routh.

I realistically don't think that who they choose is going to make that much of an impact among the comic-loving crowd. I can tell you right now that no matter who they choose I will definitely see the movie. Cap is my favorite hero and I couldn't imagine not seeing the movie on account of the actor not looking like the comic version of Rogers. I've seen TDK 3 times and Batman isn't close to the top of my favorite characters. I'm interested in seeing a great movie and if Marvel believes that a smaller, yet better actor can provide that then that's fine with me.

 

[FaT_tONle]

No. I was being quite serious. Outside of Americans, who seem to view the character as a household name, the world is largely oblivious to this character. The Hulk had a TV show. Superman, Spider-Man and Batman have had similar successes in various media. Some people remember Wonder Woman and some recall The Flash. Wolverine had a little bit of recognition... But after those, there's not a lot there that people outside of comicbook readers (and maybe a few gamers?) the character drops into obscurity.

So like I said, it will have to stand on its own two legs as a movie. The built-in fan base is not as big as many people here give it credit for.

As I said... I could care less how this film is received abroad so long as they make a decent film.

 

[FaT_tONle]

And while we are ranking, right now I'd go...

1) Batman
2) Spiderman
3) Superman
4) Wolverine
5) Iron Man
6) Hulk
7) Captain America

But still... that is only because those characters have had multiple film adaptations thus far. Cap will leap frog Hulk and Wolverine when his films comes out.

 

[MercuryEnigma]

Who cares if people will see it or not. I'm seeing it! Hah. I just hope they're good.

 

[chamber-music]

Not like Cap isn't successful overseas; it's been a hit comic in over 70 countres. He's not just a hero for the Nation.

Maybe this is me, but I think people who dislike america hate us because we're hypocrites, not because they "Hate freedom", as our president would have you believe. Cap represents all of the good in america without all of the bad.

I agree I'm not american and I like Cap and others do too. Its all in how the film is made really and how his portrayed.

 

[ironman29758]

I agree I'm not american and I like Cap and others do too. Its all in how the film is made really and how his portrayed.

I'm not joking my mom who does not know and is not into comic books knows Captain America

look at Thor they might do it like the rotih thor mix with a lord of the rings type stories. look at this:http://ultimatemarvel.proboards27.com/index.cgi?board=Thor this is how I see the Thor movie mixed with the return of the incredible hulk

cap(http://ultimatemarvel.proboards27.com/index.cgi?board=aveng2) you have to appeal with two kind of audiences:the superhero audience and the war type of audience so no problems their

 

[Ziggyman]

I say...If they are good movies...Word of mouth will spread, and they will be seen. In terms of character popularity...Iron Man really is a B-list superhero and didn't have a huge following but, it was a good movie and was well received. The Incredible Hulk is an A-list superhero and had a bigger following than Iron Man but, wasn't that great to critics and audiences worldwide. In short...Iron Man was a bigger hit in almost every way. Thor is like Iron Man...B-list character but, A-list when it comes down to The Avengers, Cap on the other hand is A-list straight up. I think Thor has a better story, but without a doubt...Captain America will rack in more money than Thor.

Question is though, whether or not they will be seen, this will also be based on the actor portraying the character and the supporting cast. Iron Man was Downey's comeback movie, and Norton was replacing Bana.

 

[RonStoppablefan]

Thor I am not sure about, I mean it might look horrible the first glance. Gapt on the other hand might intrest some people, not sure if it will make as much money as Iron Man but it could do some what decent.

 

[Ziggyman]

Thor I am not sure about, I mean it might look horrible the first glance. Gapt on the other hand might intrest some people, not sure if it will make as much money as Iron Man but it could do some what decent.

Ye...I would agree with you there Ron...But I do think that if Cap's quality is good...Like Iron Man, then I think it can make as much.

 

[KangConquers]

they'd be wise to delay Thor, Cap, and Avengers.

Think about it:

April 30, 2010: Iron Man 2
May 6, 2011: Thor
May 4, 2012: Captain America

If Thor has the best date of the summer, it too, can be huge.

Now, Cap's my favorite hero, and it'd hurt me a little to wait until May 4, 2012 to see Cap, But I'd do it if it meant Thor would make more money.

 

[avengerscaptain]

they'd be wise to delay Thor, Cap, and Avengers.

Think about it:

April 30, 2010: Iron Man 2
May 6, 2011: Thor
May 4, 2012: Captain America

If Thor has the best date of the summer, it too, can be huge.

Now, Cap's my favorite hero, and it'd hurt me a little to wait until May 4, 2012 to see Cap, But I'd do it if it meant Thor would make more money.

Kang are you READING MY MIND!!!!!

I too think it wouldn't be the worst idea to push the movie back a bit too. I bet all these "scheduled" release dates will change....

 

[Spider-Fan]

If anyone should be delayed, it is Thor

I want my Cap

 

[Spider-Vader]

Cap will be a success because it's the first summer movie of 2011 & it's war/superhero movie.

Thor will be trickier because it's in June (thus far a bad month for Marvel movies) & people will see it more as a Harry Potter/LOTR type movie. Move it to July & it may do better. I also wouldn't use the original outfit go with the main one from MUA1 (the Ultimate, I think). That may be because I think that one looks cooler.

 

[Spider-Fan]

What is due out in July of 2010? Thor in July would probably work better for Marvel.

Though I remain unconvinced as of now Thor will be done by 2010.

 

[KangConquers]

Kang are you READING MY MIND!!!!!

I too think it wouldn't be the worst idea to push the movie back a bit too. I bet all these "scheduled" release dates will change....

I'm glad to hear you agree that pushing back Cap would be worth it to secure a better box office for Thor.

It'd also just make all of the movies plain better imo, and the two year time period between Iron Man 2 and avengers would allow favreau to direct.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

I was hanging out with a group of friends after seeing TDK, and we were talking about how all of the superhero movies this summer were awesome -- everyone present (about six guys) really liked Iron Man, liked The Incredible Hulk, and loved The Dark Knight.

One of my friends asked about what the deal is with the Avengers (I'm the resident comic book movie geek) and I explained Marvel's plan -- Iron Man 2 and Thor in 2010 and Captain America and the Avengers in 2011.

All of them were interested in IM2 and the Avengers, but were laughing at the idea of a Thor or Captain America movie, calling them stupid and cheesy sounding. I defended the idea, saying that they could be very well done, but they weren't hearing it.

Do you guys think that people will see a Thor movie and a Captain America movie? Is Thor too unknown/unimportant, and is Captain America too cheesy? What do you guys think? Has anyone heard anything similar from any of their friends?

People were scoffing at the thought of Iron Man being a box office champ a few years ago...but they're not laughing anymore.

Make a good movie, hype it up correctly...and people will see it.

 

[Aztec]

Captain America, if set during WWII and done right, will be a MEGA HIT. The idea of a superhero fighting in WWII is awesome and Red Skull could be quite a scary villain.

Thor is much more of a challenge IMHO. I agree that they need him for an Avengers film but a LOTR type fantasy that somehow translates into a comic book movie is very iffy.

Ant-Man is even a bigger risk. Yes, I suppose an action oriented "Honey I Shrunk the Kids" could be interesting, but I just don't think there will be enough interest in the character.

 

[FaT_tONle]

What is due out in July of 2010? Thor in July would probably work better for Marvel.

Though I remain unconvinced as of now Thor will be done by 2010.

I think we definitely need a comic book movie for mid July 2010... I guess the candidates right now are MOS, FF3 or SS, Magneto, or a fast tracked SM4, and of course JLA... but none of those films seem that they will make a summer 2010 release... either that or IM2 or Thor needs to move to July. Simple as that.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I don't see anything being done on FF3 by 2010. Maybe SS could be possible, but MoS I think is not going to happen, nor is Magneto IMO. JLA I don't see by 2010 either. I also don't think SM4 can be fast tracked to 2010.

Thus I can only see SS maybe being the only new one to be slated to 2010. That being the case, I think Thor can easily be moved to July.

 

[FaT_tONle]

See that's what I don't get... instead of studios filling up that 2010 spot they are all gearing up for 2011... you can't tell me the writers strike stalled all these projects over a year and a half. MOS should have been 09... 2010 should have been SM4 or FF3/SS at the very least