Sequels Wolverine in X4 or NO? Poll to end the debate

[FaT_tONle]

I know we have the survey thread... but I think this question deserves its own thread...

 

[Destiny Is Near]

i dont think he should be the main focus, bvut theres no way in hell he shouldnt be in the movie, i still think he should be the top 3 charactors

 

[ToriL90]

Would it be possible to do an X4 without Logan? Yes. Would it be ideal? No.

I've heard that Hugh's schedule might make it impossible for him to be in the next installment, if the next installment were to come at any reasonable time (as opposed to 5 years down the road). If that's true, then the movie would do just fine without him. If they can get Hugh, though, they should. The movie would be better with him as a supporting character.

So, my answer is: Yes.

 

[BMM]

Wolverine should have a supporting role like he should have had in the last movie when it wasn't his storyline. Otherwise, it would be kind of weird for him to just be gone. He isn't Nightcrawler.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Well I know its tough to do away with a character like that... but guys cmon... he was front and center in X1-3... and he is getting a spinoff.... what the heck more do you want from the guy? Jean is dead. Xavier is dead... what else does he owe to the team? I think he needs to bite the dust... he would only steal time away from the new guns like Angel, Gambit, Emma, etc. And Cyclops needs to be back no matter what anyone thinks. I don't see a place for the guy... Plus Hugh is almost forty... this guy isn't supposed to age no? The guy playing him would be a recast. I mean most of the characters will be recasted anyways... but what's the point?

 

[Storm22]

I don't think everyone's sick of him and for continuity I'd rather have him have a small role in it.

 

[X-Maniac]

In my X4 script, he isn't in it... but his temporary absence is mentioned, explained and has an impact on characters' behaviour/feelings.

I believe he should be removed in order to allow Gambit and other characters to flourish and have a decent introduction. Putting him in the next movie after he was so prominent in X3 would change the whole dynamic of an X4.

 

[SuperT]

At this point, it just wouldn't be an X-Men movie if Wolverine wasn't here, and it would be a complete mistake on Fox's part to take him out of the franchise.

Lets be serious here, Wolverine is the figurehead of the X-Men trilogy, doing away with him in X4 would no doubt drive some fans away from the movie, and what not.

Yes, he should be in X4, but not in a role like he has had in the past two movies. His story has been "finished" at this point in the trilogy.

 

[ToriL90]

At this point, it just wouldn't be an X-Men movie if Wolverine wasn't here, and it would be a complete mistake on Fox's part to take him out of the franchise.

Lets be serious here, Wolverine is the figurehead of the X-Men trilogy, doing away with him in X4 would no doubt drive some fans away from the movie, and what not.

Yes, he should be in X4, but not in a role like he has had in the past two movies. His story has been "finished" at this point in the trilogy.

He should be a teacher. His primary role should be to play off Rogue and Storm and, to a lesser extent, Gambit. Of course, he is his own character, but I see those three as more important at this point. Logan is definitely down to number 4 at best (which is still significant, but it's not #1), and that's the way it should be. He's had three movies where he was the centerpiece. He should stay, but it's time to give the limelight to some others.

 

[iamlegend]

There is no feasible way to have Wolverine in a movie without erasing the chances of having other characters develop. Sorry, but it's true. Look what happened in the original run. It really was Wolverine and the X-Men.

 

[Canemacar]

Use him in fight scenes, but nothing else.

 

[McVenom]

leave wolvie out of 4 bring him back for 5 and 6

 

[Majik1387]

I dont like any of the poll options

 

[flavio_lebeau]

In an ideal X4, I don't think he should be there. But a very small cameo would do it. Just he saying good bye to Rogue after the first scene...telling her he still has his past ghosts to look for and bla bla bla, and that Storm will take care of them.

 

[FaT_tONle]

That scene is just a distraction though... I mean Hugh will be too old for X-4 anyways by the time they start filming... yeah they can deage or whatever but would you recast or pay loads to get back Hugh just for a small cameo... I think X-4 just needs a mention of Wolverine and that's all.

 

[Angamb]

I dont like any of the poll options

I understand you.

Lately, the polls seems to be incompleted. The option should be more and with different points of view.

I, for example, would want to see Logan in X4, not like the main star, but not like a cameo either. I don't think he is the most important character, but would be nice to see some interaction with Gambit, the young mutants, Emma, etc. So none of the options are correct.

 

[Canemacar]

This to me would be more like a slap in the face because X-3 sucked. It is not the character's fault that the writer(s) suck at their job and stupid studio politics got in the way.

He still had all of X-1 and X-2.

 

[Bana]

I want Wolverine to be removed, but frankly I just don't see it happening.. he's the one everyone knows and just about everywhere I see something for the X-Men, there are his adamantium claws.. And there's no way Fox would make an X-men movie without Wolverine.. he's their cash cow, he has to be in it.

If they do make an X4, I'm just really hoping that they start to focus on the X-Men as a team, not just Wolverine and friends.

 

[the a1ant]

Lauren Shuler Donner said they'd never do an X-Men movie w/o Hugh, and I believe Fox agrees with that statement. I'm assuming she meant the current crop of films (with the current cast). If there's an X4, you better believe they'll get Hugh involved in some way (an extended cameo at least). I assume after Wolverine, Hugh is going to want to move away from the X-franchise for good, though. I think future films (whenever they happen) will move away from the current trilogy storyline, and feature a mix of old and new mutants - which will be a good way to explain Wolverine's lack of screentime (or departure).

It's my opinion that they should bring Gambit into future films to take Wolverine's place as the rebellious character. Maybe that's why they've been keeping him from appearing in these films? Because they know he's also a very popular character amongst fans?

 

[Canemacar]

Ok, other than being rebels and having a bad past, I don't see the similarity between Wolverine and Gambit.

They aren't alike; the movie people are either idiots or they didn't even try to come up with a good excuse for keeping Gambit out. I'd even say the rebellious thing isn't a good similarity since Gambit doesn't balk at authority when it's more useful not to.

 

[ToriL90]

Gambit should NOT be Logan's replacement. I think they should both be in X4. Their similarities should be acknowledged, but they should be established as two separate characters.

Plus Hugh is almost forty... this guy isn't supposed to age no?

If his age is too obvious, they can de-age in X4 like somebody else said. Also, they might be able to shift him into the 4 Horsemen in X5, where the characters aren't supposed to look so pretty. Not sure about that last option, since he was the centerpiece of the first trilogy. It may be hard to make him a villian two movies later, but it's definitely an option that should be explored.

 

[FaT_tONle]

I understand you.

Lately, the polls seems to be incompleted. The option should be more and with different points of view.

I, for example, would want to see Logan in X4, not like the main star, but not like a cameo either. I don't think he is the most important character, but would be nice to see some interaction with Gambit, the young mutants, Emma, etc. So none of the options are correct.

The option clearly indicates you want Logan as a major character... its doesn't mean one man show again character... just a major character. Wolverine has always been the most important character in the movies and maybe even the comics... but I don't feel like debating that subject... but seriously what do you want the options to be???

Logan for 5 minutes?
Logan for 10 minutes?
Logan with Rogue scene?
Logan for 30 minutes?
Logan as the loner hero doing his own thing for 40 minutes?
Logan coming out of the shower, changing, and saying his last goodbyes to the X-Men???

Give me a break... originally it was just going to be Yes or No... but I had to put in a third option... any more and people would want each of their own options. Now I consider Ice-Man and Rogue to be major characters... I consider Mystique to be a major character. Are they on par with Xavier and Magneto??? No... but they are still very important. If thats a role you envision for Logan is X-4 that option works... if you want something a little bit smaller than that... well I am sorry not to include the "Major but not Major Major character" option for you... but if I included "keep him as a supporting character" everyone would pick that option... fact is that option is pretty vague... how much more time would a supporting character like that steal from the major characters? Who would even be the major characters? Storm? Cyclops? That's debatable as well... what I see with the X-Men is a team... yeah Cyclops should be leading but every main member deserves equal screen time... I am not sure you'd get that if you stuff Wolverine again in there... would he be a supporting character? Or would he just be another distraction from the major story at work? Yeah I could have thrown that option in there... but fans really need to make a decision on this... and four options would have been pushing it.

 

[ReallyCoolGuy]

They aren't alike; the movie people are either idiots or they didn't even try to come up with a good excuse for keeping Gambit out. I'd even say the rebellious thing isn't a good similarity since Gambit doesn't balk at authority when it's more useful not to.

Their excuse for keeping Gambit out was due to the fact that he was too complicated of a character to introduce with their already over-filled story.

 

[ReallyCoolGuy]

Due to the fact that Wolverine WAS THE STAR of the first three movies it would be difficult to explain and/or justify his sudden absense.... but I think they should definitley tone down his presence... however possible...

 

[psylockolussus]

I think Wolverine have to appear in all of the team movie such as X-Men 4/5/6/7/8/9, etc... He is the poster boy of this series, he's the most marketable character. But he doesn't have to camera hog.