Wonder Woman script review

[The Guard]

Everyone lives happily ever after...except for Diana...who has no one, and only gets to play rope games from time to time. Poor girl...

 

[Katsuro]

Everyone lives happily ever after...except for Diana...who has no one, and only gets to play rope games from time to time. Poor girl...

that's when you do a JLA crossover and have her hook up with Batman! Or maybe Superman, since he pretty much just went through the exact same deal.

 

[Lucid]

Of course.

I think we are see a reductionist reaction to movies like Superman Returns. I don't want to blame it...but, Superman Returns I think scared WB. However, I wouldln't say SR is TOO BLAME for this, because Marvel has already started doing this.

They're reducing their films to action-fests that'll do very little character. They're looking at mass production now of these movies to turn quick profits and not making artful films first and foremost.

The Fantastic Four franchise is a perfect example of this, followed then by the X3 debacle. These movies are pointing to the direction that comic book films are headed. Ghost Rider, with its awfully pop-ish look, seems to be embracing the same reductionist, mass audience slave mentality as well instead of providing a compelling, dark cult-ish thriller that'd been truer to the comics. Fantastic Four 2 the jury is still out on...

Batman Begins and Spider-Man seem to be the sole franchises untouched by this...trend of reducing films. I think Superman Returns was the furthest a director could push an alternative version of a hero -- Singer's version of Superman is a quitely radically different than previous versions, while remaining faithful to them at the same time.

Now, I think to a degree fans are to blame for this. Either they don't like the emotional complexity of a film like Superman Returns of Spider-Man 2 (which I've seen many fans bash on the basis of lack of action), or they just don't want to think when they watch these movies. I find it ridiculous humorous that peoople think that Ghost Rider is going to be anymore than just pop-trash like Daredevil. But, ti's flashy and actiony looking and it has cute little lines that play upon the "HOW-MANY-TIMES-HAVE-I-SEEN-NICK-CAGE-ACT-LIKE-THIS" characterization...Nick Cage is playing Nick Cage in that movie.

I dislike when people say "finally, a comic book movie that's not afraid to be a comic book." But people forget: it's not a comic book. A film is not a comic book. A film is not a comic book. Again, just in case someone didn't get it, a film is not a comic book. A film should not work or operate like a comic book otherwise...you have a comic book, which a film is not. Are we getting this? When an audience sits down in a theater they want to watch a film, not a comic book.

Of course, fanatics will not see this and that's disheartening. And in the end, it's going to turn out more F4, X3, GR trash rather then providing well-crafted, acted, and inspired films like BB, SM, and yes, Superman Returns (since most detractor's comments are related to teh vision, not the execution of SR). As studios become "safer" with these franchsies, the franchises will become more stereotypical (Jeez, a superhero fighting the Nazis -- how many times have I seen that one, Indiana Jones?).

There is also something to be said about the saturation of comic book films. Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, X-Men, Ghost Rider, Fantastic Four, The Incredible Hulk, Wonder Woman, Iron Man, etc....they're saturating the market and this too will eventually kill these movies UNLESS they are able to define for themselves a genre niche in the market which, if they continue to follow the typical and tired conventions of action-films, they will never create.

Comic book movies need to define themselves as something onto themselves, a unique combination of action and character on a parallel arrangement. When people say, "it needs to be like a comic book," it basically comes down to it needs to be simple, fast, and action-packed -- that's an action movie, not a comic book film. If comic book movies are going to have any sort of longeivity, studios need to crack down on the properites and produce only a few OR they have to create in these movies new conventions that distingiusih them from the pack of films out there.

So what I think Whedon leaving WW and these guys script suggest is the general trend in comic book films for the fan base to be ridiculously and horribly resistant (and now studios adopting it) to any sort of risky change even if such change could produce creative art that is actually BETTER than the original.

For example, more people paid to see Superman Returns than Batman Begins. BB is regarded as a success, SR as a failure. Why? Because BB stuck to what fans expected, SR didn't. However, the Superman comics are dead in the water, period. They have been for hte past decade. Yet, here comes Singer, and changes it up and, IMO, makes Superman a more interesting character and more relevant to our modern world than any other idealistic, forgone world of the past which some moralists wish to stick to. It improves the continuity and legend of Superamn, IMO--as I feel Spider-Man's movies have, and in fact, X-Men 1 and 2 improved a bit of the comic books.

However, fans decry these changes...why? Becuase they're changes. It's not a matter if its better or serves the film medium better, it's just a dogmatic expression of "it's different." And as studios embrace these simplistic, mindless "carbon-copies" of the comics, replicating the action-driven narratives that many comics embrace, far-fetched and over-the-top, you'll see the general public become more disatisfied with comic book films...why? Because if the general public wanted the comic book film to resemble the comic book, they'd also be reading the comic books. But they don't, do they? Comics are actually in a bad spot nowadays b/c geenrally, people don't like them and ridicule them with a certain degree of (and sadly legitiamte) foolishness. But the movies have always made it more serious, better executed, and more relevant with social themes about human interaction that the comic books (justifiablly) don't explore for the sake of fun.

This is why comic book films will eventually die out. I had a good hope for them too, but as usual they are becoming cliche, stereotyped, and redundant. Superman, Spider-Man, and Batman will finish out hte marathon and wth the conclusion of the Superamn Returns trilogy, we'll see the end of any major comic book movie developments. We'll see sparks of crap here and there, literally, of crap...

Of cousre, this is just my opinion.

The way for comic book superhero movies never to die would be for each adaptation to be carefully and lovingly adapted by an auteur type director who cares about the character. Instead, studios produce these superhero films using writers and directors for hire and they become films by committee, instantly disposable.

P.S. I was with you the whole way, but you lost me at the part where Superman Returns is supposed to be good.

 

[Steelsheen]

that's when you do a JLA crossover and have her hook up with Batman! Or maybe Superman, since he pretty much just went through the exact same deal.

actually in the Pre-Crisis days Diana and everyone else did live happily ever after, Batman had a wife and a daughter, the only exception i can think of is Superman since i dont think he ever married Lois (not sure about the other multiverse versions though, somebody correct me please).

there's a thread here or in BT that Wonder Woman may be Superman's default soul mate, since after everyone else has passed away, they'd be the only two left.

 

[BrianWilly]

Gahh, I'm so not a fan of the Superman/Wonder Woman pairing. Sometimes it's written really well, but at this point it's been so overdone and so cliched and so hackneyed as to have become yet another example of writers not knowing what the heck to do with this girl other than to constantly portray her as "Superman's female counterpart."

Some writers have...suggested...that Diana could forsake her immortality if she wanted to, and that someday she would do it in order to be with the man she loves.

I believe that Superman of Earth-2 did eventually marry Lois Lane.

 

[Katsuro]

actually in the Pre-Crisis days Diana and everyone else did live happily ever after, Batman had a wife and a daughter, the only exception i can think of is Superman since i dont think he ever married Lois (not sure about the other multiverse versions though, somebody correct me please).

there's a thread here or in BT that Wonder Woman may be Superman's default soul mate, since after everyone else has passed away, they'd be the only two left.

Actually I was more referring to the films. The suggestion was that Steve Trevor decide not to be with Diana in favor of Etta. And in SR Lois is with Richard White leaving Superman all by his lonesome.

 

[The Question]

Gahh, I'm so not a fan of the Superman/Wonder Woman pairing. Sometimes it's written really well, but at this point it's been so overdone and so cliched and so hackneyed as to have become yet another example of writers not knowing what the heck to do with this girl other than to constantly portray her as "Superman's female counterpart."

Some writers have...suggested...that Diana could forsake her immortality if she wanted to, and that someday she would do it in order to be with the man she loves.

I believe that Superman of Earth-2 did eventually marry Lois Lane.

Personally, I think that sounds like a bit of a LOTR rip off. If she ever got romantically involved with anyone, I'd just like to see her be romantically involved with that person. No profound personal sacrifice.

 

[Dark Knight]

http://www.latinoreview.com/scriptreview.php?id=48

WONDER WOMAN
Screenplay by Matthew Jennison and Brent Strickland
Story by Matthew Jennison, Brent Strickland and Kevin Shawley
Based on the DC Comics characters created by William Moulton Marston
130 pages

OYE MIRA!

EL MAGNIFICO MOFACKIN’ MAYIMBE HERE!

Welcome to our Super Bowl Edition Superhero Spec Spotlight! The last time we did one of these was on Batman Begins.

But first about that J.J. Star Trek thing…

After all, I said it is just a rumor, but folks, as Public Enemy sang famously back in the days – DON’T BELIEVE THE HYPE! That rumor is picking up steam in the business community here in Hollywood – hence why I reported it to Ronnie Adams. There is something really fishy going on over there on Melrose.

The trades say one thing, then the next day something else happens.

Case in point – WONDER WOMAN!

Warner Bros. buys this excellent spec script (which we will preview for you shortly) and says something along the lines of committing to Whedon’s contemporary version, then the very next day Whedon is off the project!

Just like I suspected. Why would you take a spec off the market when you own the rights already? I never bought this protection from liability jibberish that the trades were spoon-feeding us.

See why you can never trust the trades! See la comemierderia!

My goodness it is Black Superhero Friday or what? First Whedon is off Wonder Woman, and now David Goyer is off The Flash!

Que carajo is going on over there in Burbank?

Anyway, in regards to Wonder Woman – the spec that Silver picked up ROCKS!
A fun filled adventure packed girl power action movie in the 1940s!

1943 to be exact. Just where this character belongs.

Now I know ya’ll are not here to hear my rants in colloquial Spanglish so let’s get to it and preview the first act.

We open with QUEEN HIPPOLYTE and her THREE THOUSAND AMAZON WARRIORS all clad in battle armor and bracelets.

We pull back even further and FIFTY THOUSAND MEN, all armed for war, advance on the Amazon.

In VOICEOVER HIPPOLYTE tells us that they were created to guard against the evils of the world. Strong, wise, and compassionate, Hera gave breath to the AMAZON. In the ancient days, they lived among Mankind…but Man fears what it cannot control. Man sought to take the power of the Amazon but doing so would have destroyed Man’s World.

Hippolyte erupts in a battle cry and the Amazon charge forward, meeting the army of man head on.

The action is fierce. The Amazon are superior warriors, but the numbers of Man’s army are too great and the Amazon take heavy casualties.

Hippolyte further tell us that to protect the world from such devastation they would do anything. Even flee.

We next see Hippolyte leading twenty Amazon ships into the open ocean. An Armada is in hot pursuit. She further tells us that they sailed forth without a destination, guided only by their faith.

Hera heard her prayers.

Hippolyte steers her ships toward a Heavenly star and the Amazon make it past the storm, which engulfs man’s ships towards – THEMYSCIRA. Hippolyte finishes her voiceover by telling us that Themyscira has been The Amazon’s home for three thousand years, a place where they could live in peace, hidden from the world of man.

After the credit sequence over a montage of military imagery showing the history of mankind’s warfare growing even deadlier, we open in 1943 Germany and meet

STEVE TREVOR (30)

A tall, handsome son of a senator but made it on his own American in a Nazi SS disguise, snaps photos of Nazi Jet blueprints that look incredibly advanced for the 1940s.
The words “AMERIKA BOMBER” and FLEISCHER GESELLSCHAFT” appear on the bottom of each design. Steve discovers that the Nazis are going to bomb Washington D.C. and New York.

Steve’s cover is blown and gets chased by the Nazis. He makes it to the Nazi hangar and steals a Nazi jet, which looks more like a stealth bomber than a WWII era plane. It’s the Amerika Bomber from the blueprints.

He navigates it out of there as the Nazis open fire on the jet. He flies over the Ocean and is leaking fuel. He makes it through the clouds and head towards a tropical island.

THEMYSCIRA.

A majestic city hugs the coastline and stretches up into the mountains. Its architecture is a mix of Greek Temples and Elaborate Towers standing watch over the gleaming streets.

A huge coliseum stands in the center of the city, its rim decorated with statues of the Grecian gods.

We descend into a long street-level tunnel that empties into the arena floor. At the end of the tunnel we see the silhouette of a young woman – DIANA.

She takes a deep breath and places a helmet overhead obscuring her face before we see it. She enters the coliseum and wears a black skirt of leather strips and a GOLDEN BREASTPLATE with the form of an eagle, wings spread. Her bodice and leather boots are both DARK RED.

Thousands of Amazons in colorful robes fill the stands. A cheer rises as the red Amazon warrior moves to the center of the ring, where another masked Amazon waits, and this one in dark green – she is PHILLIPUS.

Four challengers remain to determine the strongest and best suited to find their sister, GALINA. Hera’s choice will soon be revealed.

We then get some super cool girl on girl gladiator action – DIANA VS PHILLIPUS.

It is no secret who wins. Then we get WHITE (ARTEMIS) vs BLUE (ODIA).

Artemis wins, then gets disqualified from the final round and doesn’t fight Diana.

Diana, her face still covered, kneels before Hippolyte on the coliseum floor and has proven herself the greatest warrior of the Amazon. Now it is her duty to return to Man’s world and find Galina.

She removes her helmet and for the first time we see her. She is barely twenty; she’s beautiful, with long black hair and just like her mother – HIPPOLYTE.
Hippolyte has a fit. She forbade Diana from partaking in the contest. Hippolyte orders her to go to the palace.

Steve meanwhile crashes into a forested park in Themyscira. Diana runs into Steve and they meet. Diana saves Steve’s life and frees him the wreckage. Steve then gets arrested by the Amazon. Hippolyte and her entourage appear on a hover chariot.

Hippolyte takes Diana on the hover chariot. Here we learn that Galina was sent to Man’s world to ensure that Pandora’s Box is secure but she apparently went missing hence the contest for an Amazon warrior to go find Galina. Phillipus, who Diana beat in the contest, is going to man’s world to find Galina much to the dismay of Diana. Mother and daughter get into an argument.

Steve is taken to the Senate Hall. Hippolyte puts the GOLDEN ROPE around Steve and he tells the truth. The Amazon doesn’t believe him, they think man captured Galina and stole the Amazon technology. Steve is sentenced by the senate to death.

We then find out that the Amazons protect the key – a crystal that hangs on Hippolyte’s neck. If man came into possession of Pandora’s box and the key - it would be catastrophic.

Diana rescues Steve from his cell. She also steals a GOLDEN BELT – the belt of Aphrodite, which allows an Amazon to walk in disguise among men. Diana also steals a GOLDEN ROPE – Hestia’s Golden Lasso, which is unbreakable and any whom it binds, must speak the truth.

Diana and Steve make their getaway from Themyscira on you guessed it – THE INVISBLE JET.

Diana controls the jet with the GOLD TIARA with RUBY STAR on it. It resembles Hippolyte’s crown but is shaped to lie flat across the forehead.

On page 34 – Steve and Diana race out of Themyscira – cross the first threshold – and head back to Washington.

End Act 1

Like I said, the script rocks. We of course get Diana repelling Nazi bullets with her bracelets and she beats the **** out of Nazi bad guys by the dozens. She has the strength of ten men.

For those fans concerned about her outfit – no worries.

When she finally makes her debut as Wonder Woman on page 86, her Wonder Woman outfit is a combination of her Amazon battle gear and the American flag, the costume we all know as Wonder Woman but slightly more combat ready. SHE LOOKS HOT!
The first part of the 2nd half of Act 2 (the test, allies, and enemies stage) takes place in Washington and of course Nazi bad guys (to good effect in this script) and double agents – Threshold Guardians – keep Steve and Diana busy.

The 2nd part of Act 2 takes place in Berlin as Diana and Steve intensify their search for Galina.

The 3rd Act and battle royale finale takes place back on Themyscira as the Amazons and their hover chariots fight a fleet of the Nazi Amerika Bombers as the main villain, who is revealed late in the game (which I won’t spoil) goes all out for the key on Hippolyte’s neck. The 3rd act is wall-to-wall action.

Overall, a very great read. The writers did their homework. As a comic book character origin movie - it is just as good as Batman Begins.

I can see why Silver supposedly took it off the spec market. If I was a betting man, I figure this is the origin story that Warners might stick with. My note to the studio is to not touch the script, leave it intact, get yourself a good director and shoot this script. It is all there on the page.

Spec Screenwriting 101

My only beef with the script, which could have shaved 10-15 pages off the thing, is the overuse of CONTINUED at the top and bottom of the script, which is OFF LIMITS in a spec, and the use of German dialogue then it’s subtitled English counterpart. When you write any language, either below the character’s name, or as in vogue today, next to the character’s name – use a parenthesis (in German, with English subtitles) then the English dialogue. It is a waste of space and lines and supremely redundant to include foreign dialogue, which a reader can’t understand anyway only to translate it right after. Damn noobies. Read David Trottier’s books! One of my pet peeves about specs. I **** you not, I know readers who pass on bad screenplay format no matter how good the story is.

Anyway, who do you guys pick as Wonder Woman?

My top choice would have to be Rachel McAdams and then Jessica Biel second.

I think the role of Hippolyte, Diana’s mother, is tailor written for Catherine Zeta Jones.

Check back real soon to see my next spec script spotlight by a very famous writer/director. He is some guy who heard voices.

Until then, enjoy the game!

In the meantime, I am looking for the following scripts – RUG EATER by Miguel Arteta, and John Ridley’s L.A. RIOTS. You got ‘em? Email me.

HASTA EL PROXIMO CAPITULO…

…YO SOY EL MAYIMBE!

Wow! All I needed to read was the first Act.....and I can already tell this script is going to kick major butt! Man...I truely hope something like this ends up onscreen.....especially the first act! I'll read on.....but when reading the first act I was thinking Monica Bellucci as Queen Hippolyta and of course Jessica Biel as her Diana/WW!

 

[Dark Knight]

Possible directors should be IMO...

Terance Malick

Peter Weir

 

[Dark Knight]

Just finished reading the script review and trying to get a feel for everyone's opinion before putting my zwei pfennig in and if I forget your names, sorry but I want to get it all down before I lose my train of thought:

The reviewer was certainly enamored with the script, even with its inaccuracies of the Amazonian culture as it applies to Hippolyta but I do have to say that the movie does flow from one time period to the next fairly effortlessly, which isn't always a good thing. The charactor devleopment is going to be very important in this movie, so having some idea of the main villian in the first act is important. Yes, I do know that the script will change from now until its shot but......gotta address what is there.

Its important to remember that in the grand scheme of things, Diana is just one step below Kal in overall abilities and power with the exceptions of her fighting ablities and prowess. She's a warrior born and Kal's going by instinct and sheer power.

I liked the one idea someone had with opening up with the Amazons preparing for battle! Maybe in some sort of flashback sequence with the narration?

Garzo, some of your remarks made in here seem to smack of something I won't address on the boards but I do need to correct you on something: No member of the US Armed Forces wears "US" or an insignia on their uniform belt unless it's with a form of Dress uniform(Class A's, Dress Blues, etc.), and even then, it's very seldom. In the days of the horse drawn Cavalry, it was common place to see it on the buckle of the soldier's/sailor's/marine's gunbelt. And after the number of different nation's soldiers I've fought alongside of and against, very few of them had an insignia on their's. It was mostly officers with waaaaay too high of an opinion of themselves!

And as far as casting Hippolyta,.......It's Lynda Carter or no one! She deserves the role!

Lynda Carter??? Ugh.....Leave the TV show in the past my friend!

 

[Kevin Roegele]

James Cameron, the guy who gave us cinema's only real great female action heroes - Ripley and Sarah Connor (he didn't create Ripley but he did turn her into a warrior).

 

[SufferingSappho]

Wow! All I needed to read was the first Act.....and I can already tell this script is going to kick major butt! Man...I truely hope something like this ends up onscreen.....especially the first act! I'll read on.....but when reading the first act I was thinking Monica Bellucci as Queen Hippolyta and of course Jessica Biel as her Diana/WW!

If Monica Bellucci played Queen Hippolyta and Jessica Biel played Diana people would be saying "why is Diana's mom so much more beautiful than her? and "Why does Hippolyta look more like Wonder Woman than Diana?" That and Biel is not a very good actor.

 

[BrianWilly]

The reason that everyone wants Lynda Carter as Hippolyta is because it'd be very fitting to the comics. In current comic continuity, Hippolyta travelled back in time and became the Wonder Woman during World War II. So it'd be a neat tip of the hat if the actual World War II Wonder Woman -- Lynda Carter -- became Hippolyta.

 

[CConn]

Plus we all have a 25 year old hardon for Lynda.

 

[Caliber]

I rather the film wasn't a period piece, but I liked what I read of the characterizations.

As good as this sounds, its not a good idea. Now that Batman and Supes have movies now, warner would want to make a Justice League movie. Why set up WW in WW2 if it'd be better to eventually have JL movie?

 

[CConn]

As good as this sounds, its not a good idea. Now that Batman and Supes have movies now, warner would want to make a Justice League movie. Why set up WW in WW2 if it'd be better to eventually have JL movie?

It would be really, really, REALLY expensive to make a Justice League movie. Not to mention take a ton of writing and directorial talent to pull it off.

With both Batman and Superman's movies not making crazy numbers at the box office, I sorta doubt Warner Brothers will be wanting to sink the hundreds upon hundreds of millions into a Justice League movie any time soon.

Not to mention, as many have said in this thread, Wonder Woman is, technically, immortal. You can have a WW2 movie with her in it, and still have sequels or spin-offs taking place in the present day.

 

[GL1]

As much as I hate the idea of a WWII Wondy movie, I have to admit, the transition to present day is pretty easy, and a JL movie, while not happening, would still be quite possible.

 

[Steelsheen]

CConn, just want to hear your two bits about Marvel's plans for a live action Avengers movie. do you think its a impossible to happen as a JL movie?

 

[CConn]

CConn, just want to hear your two bits about Marvel's plans for a live action Avengers movie. do you think its a impossible to happen as a JL movie?

I really don't have two bits about it at the moment...maybe one bit. I mean, I really haven't heard anything about the budget yet, and obviously all that's known about it right now is who's writing...which I don't like. I think we'll probably end up with a mediocre movie in the end because of it.

Although, I will say, before Iron Man got started I was skeptical of its quality too...but I've been won over pretty quickly with that. So really anything could happen at this point. It's just really hard to make a good team movie, it's pretty hard to make an ensemble movie in general.

Oh, and another important factor that should be looked at; so far, Marvel's had a lot more success than DC at the box office. They've had Spider-Man make over a billion dollars for them and Sony, they've had the X-Men movies surpass everyone's intial expectations and do very well. They've had results that tell them an Avengers movie could be a good idea. DC really hasn't had that. They've had BB did that well, and Superman that did okay, but they've yet to really have any megahits or anything that could make them think they'd hit the jackpot with a JL movie.

 

[Lestat74]

If Warner Brothers played their cards right and had any foresight, they could totally do a Justice League film. Batman and now Superman have been re-introduced, now all you really need are for solid films made out of Wonder Woman, Flash, and Green Lantern. Make sure that the leads of those respective movies have sequel clauses that include a Justice League film. I wouldn't have more than the "Big 5" in a JL movie...anything else would be too pricey and difficult. But 5 leads isn't that hard to do. But sadly, I really doubt Warners has their ***** together enough to think in the long term like this. Which is a real shame, as they own all these characters outright and it wouldn't be the legal nightmare that making a Marvel Universe film would be.

 

[Steelsheen]

If Warner Brothers played their cards right and had any foresight, they could totally do a Justice League film. Batman and now Superman have been re-introduced, now all you really need are for solid films made out of Wonder Woman, Flash, and Green Lantern. Make sure that the leads of those respective movies have sequel clauses that include a Justice League film. I wouldn't have more than the "Big 5" in a JL movie...anything else would be too pricey and difficult. But 5 leads isn't that hard to do. But sadly, I really doubt Warners has their ***** together enough to think in the long term like this. Which is a real shame, as they own all these characters outright and it wouldn't be the legal nightmare that making a Marvel Universe film would be.

or they could do the reverse: they've already restarted the Superman and Batman franchises, next step is to get a "team" movie out by combining them or coming up with a Justice League movie, then use that JL movie as a springboard to other franchises: Wonder Woman, Green Lantern and The Flash. logically it could work.

 

[Lestat74]

or they could do the reverse: they've already restarted the Superman and Batman franchises, next step is to get a "team" movie out by combining them or coming up with a Justice League movie, then use that JL movie as a springboard to other franchises: Wonder Woman, Green Lantern and The Flash. logically it could work.

That's one way to go, but the truth is I think that Wonder Woman, Flash and Green Lantern already have a lot of backstory and mythology of their own to have to explain all in one movie, especially if you are going to have them all meet and team up with Superman and Batman. Someone would inevitably get the short end of the stick, backstory wise. The JLA was created as the first "All Star" super hero book; in other words, all the main stars were already household names. No other super team can boast that, not even the Fantastic Four or the X-Men. I think the spirit of that concept should remain, and the only way to really insure that is if the other main stars, namely WW, Flash and GL, have their own films first. If you introduce the secondary Leaguers first in a JLA movie, there will be less appeal for the general audience to see a later spin off solo film. Why is Joe Six Pack on the street going to care that much about seeing a Flash movie when he's already seen him in a movie with all the big guns in it? I think that Superman and Batman may be the only two members iconic enough to be immune from this ( especially Batman, who kind of exists in his own little corner of the DC Universe ) This is all just my opinion of course.

 

[Dark Knight]

If Monica Bellucci played Queen Hippolyta and Jessica Biel played Diana people would be saying "why is Diana's mom so much more beautiful than her? and "Why does Hippolyta look more like Wonder Woman than Diana?" That and Biel is not a very good actor.

Nah...Biel would make a great mid 20's version of WW. Bellucci is not the right age for WW....or maybe Catherine Zeta Jones as Hippolyta? Biel was listed as a magazines (i forget which) sexiest woman. I don't remember Bellucci being voted a magazines top honor for the year as the sexiest woman.

 

[CConn]

She may have no won this year, but believe me, she's won it before. More than once, if memory serves.

 

[emi]

But the real tragedy is that she absolutely can't act.