World Cup Of Cinema...

[Space Moose]

depends how you class a films origin, a lot of the cast and crew were french, as is the director, depends on your classification, the BFI class it as french.

Replace it with Betty Blue.

 

[Cyrusbales]

happy now? At some stage, I think it would be cool if people who nominated the films made their case for why it should win etc...

 

[Space Moose]

happy now? At some stage, I think it would be cool if people who nominated the films made their case for why it should win etc...

Fine.

The REAL definition of placing a film to a country relies on three elements whcih MUST be fufulled:

Filming location: Leon was filmed in the US
Director/Producers: The producers were American
Actors: With the exception of Jean Reno, (who's character is from Italy) most the actors were 'American'

Happy now? Play it safe and use Betty Blue.

 

[Cyrusbales]

What would you class Alien as then?> Out of curiosity?

 

[Space Moose]

What would you class Alien as then?> Out of curiosity?

An American film.

Only the director was British.

 

[Cyrusbales]

An American film.

Only the director was British.

filmed in england, cast and crew were almost entirely english. Weaver was pretty much the only american involved.

 

[Space Moose]

filmed in england, cast and crew were almost entirely english. Weaver was pretty much the only american involved.

American producers (Walter Hill?)
American distributers.

 

[Cyrusbales]

The film itself, not the marketing or distribution.

It was filmed less than an hour away from me.

 

[Space Moose]

The film itself, not the marketing or distribution.

It was filmed less than an hour away from me.

This argument will NEVER end...

 

[Cyrusbales]

If an american buys a brittish artist paints and canvas, and the brittish artist paints a picture of london bridge, then the american sells it. What nationality is the painting?

Brittish!

Film = Directors medium
TV = Producers
Theatre = Actors

 

[Space Moose]

If an american buys a brittish artist paints and canvas, and the brittish artist paints a picture of london bridge, then the american sells it. What nationality is the painting?

Brittish!

Film = Directors medium
TV = Producers
Theatre = Actors

That is the worst example EVER!

The studio planned it from scratch (Walter Hills production, since he was going to direct, instead turned to producer), the script was done (by Americans) and then they chose a director who opted to use a British film crew since it was filmed in England (a financial decision by the producers) and post production was done in the US (since it was all filmed in a studio, no UK settings) and realised through American distributors who had conceived and produced the production.

 

[Cyrusbales]

And the mian characters(bar weaver) were british...

cartwright
hurt
holm

More brittish people worked on the film than americans. I'd call it a collaboration, as is regognised by both the bfi and the afi.

 

[Space Moose]

And the mian characters(bar weaver) were british...

cartwright
hurt
holm

More brittish people worked on the film than americans. I'd call it a collaboration, as is regognised by both the bfi and the afi.

No British funding.

Anyway...

 

[Movies205]

Japan
Seven Samurai
Gojira, Mosura, Kingu Gidorâ: Daikaijû sôkôgeki (2001)
-Sure it's not the greatest movie of all time but the historical/iconic impact of Godzilla is tremendous in worldwide cinema, and considering the first isn't evne that good, might as well put up the most entertaining one...

Italy
Notti di Cabiria, Le
(Nights of Cabiria)

C'era una volta il West
(Once Upon a Time in the West)

Sweden
Persona
Seventh Seal

Germany
The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari
Daughters of Darkness

Hong Kong
A Better Tommorrow
Hero

 

[Cyrusbales]

If I sponsor someone running a marathon, it's not the same as me running it.


Moving on, some russian love at all people? Bit more south american cinema?

 

[Cyrusbales]

Japan
Seven Samurai
Gojira(It's a classic )

Where you been! lol.

We need two more countries, then quickly refine the list to make sure it's all good, then off we go!

 

[Movies205]

Where you been! lol.

We need two more countries, then quickly refine the list to make sure it's all good, then off we go!

I don't evne think Gojira is that good so I'm changing it to GMK! I don't care if it's not a classic, also 2 films to each country is kind of limiting, shouldn't it be 3?

 

[Cyrusbales]

I don't evne think Gojira is that good so I'm changing it to GMK! I don't care if it's not a classic, also 2 films to each country is kind of limiting, shouldn't it be 3?

limiting is the plan really, that way, 16 countries, gives 32 films, which gives us 8 groups of four, like the world cup... and a lot of people here may not know 3 films from the respective countries.

 

[Movies205]

So far we are looking at these entries....

US
Casablanca
Citizen Kane

UK
The Third Man
Brief Encounter

NEW ZEALAND
Heavenly Creatures
The Piano

BRAZIL
Central Do Brasil
City Of God

MEXICO
Amoros Perros
Cronos

ITALY
8 1/2
Nuovo Cinema Paradiso

HOLLAND
Soldier Of Orange
The Vanishing

GERMANY
Cabinett Of Doctor Caligari
Metropolis

CHINA
A Better Tomorrow
Chungking Express

AUSTRALIA
Picnic at Hanging Rock
The Castle

KOREA
A Bittersweet Life
Joint Secuirity Area

FRANCE
Breathless
Betty Blue

JAPAN
Gojiri
Seven Samuri

SPAIN
Talk To Her
El Bola


thoguhts so far?

I've seend quite a few on this list my only complaint would be "Nuovo Cinema Paradiso" sure a lot of people have seen it and it's a real tear jerker but cinematically Once Upon a Time in the West blows it away ANd even if you wanted to go that route might as well go with the original movie that inspired it Bicycle Theif, just my two cents... You should be diversifying instead of having two Italian Dramas...

 

[Cyrusbales]

fair point homie

 

[Cyrusbales]

So far we are looking at these entries....

US
Casablanca
Citizen Kane

UK
The Third Man
Brief Encounter

NEW ZEALAND
Heavenly Creatures
The Piano

BRAZIL
Central Do Brasil
City Of God

MEXICO
Amoros Perros
Cronos

ITALY
8 1/2
Once Upon a Time In The West

HOLLAND
Soldier Of Orange
The Vanishing

GERMANY
Cabinett Of Doctor Caligari
Metropolis

CHINA
A Better Tomorrow
Chungking Express

AUSTRALIA
Picnic at Hanging Rock
The Castle

KOREA
A Bittersweet Life
Joint Secuirity Area

FRANCE
Breathless
Betty Blue

JAPAN
Gojiri
Seven Samuri

SPAIN
Talk To Her
El Bola

RUSSIA
Strike!
Russkiy kovcheg (Russia Ark)

thoguhts so far?

 

[Movies205]

fair point homie

Once Upon a Time in the West I love Fellini but he served under Vittorio De Sica... That's way limited... Sergio Leone deserves his due especailly his impact on the Western genre and films in general, which is still felt to this day.

 

[Cyrusbales]

Want me to switch out bicycle thief for OUATITW?

 

[Movies205]

Edit

 

[Movies205]

Want me to switch out bicycle thief for OUATITW?

Damn straight the opening alone deserves it... 8 1/2 is perfection, Bicycle Thief is also awesome but 8 1/2 builds off BT, so I'd take 8 1/2, and OUATITW is in a completely different ball-park thus diversifying the two titles.