Superman Returns Would anyone have liked if Returns showed more of Superman dealing with criminals?

[Herolee10]

I know that Superman Returns needed more action....and hopefully MOS will deliver that...however...just out of curiosity...instead of Superman having to save civilians/people more from natural disasters or hazardous accidents...would anyone else have liked if Returns showed more of Superman dealing with criminals (gangs....crazy murderers....basically the kind of characters you see act so terribly that you want someone to literally to kick their ass)...now while they wouldn't put up much of a challenge....what would be fun to see is the reactions of the criminals faces of when they know they're screwed since superman is here....although these type of characters fall more in line with batman and spiderman/daredevil....scenes like the bank robbery and how superman completely "owned" them...was priceless

 

[superbaby]

problem is...
none of the criminals is afraid of superman. they treat him like a ***** in the movie.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I know that Superman Returns needed more action....and hopefully MOS will deliver that...however...just out of curiosity...instead of Superman having to save civilians/people more from natural disasters or hazardous accidents...would anyone else have liked if Returns showed more of Superman dealing with criminals (gangs....crazy murderers....basically the kind of characters you see act so terribly that you want someone to literally to kick their ass)...now while they wouldn't put up much of a challenge....what would be fun to see is the reactions of the criminals faces of when they know they're screwed since superman is here....although these type of characters fall more in line with batman and spiderman/daredevil....scenes like the bank robbery and how superman completely "owned" them...was priceless

I loved the bank robbery scene, but with criminals, the police can mostly deal with them, unless something drastic comes along that they cant handle, then Superman has to step in.

Plus as you said they just wouldnt offer an interesting challenge, disaster on a city wide scale is definately more appealing to me.

 

[Angeloz]

I loved the bank robbery scene, but with criminals, the police can mostly deal with them, unless something drastic comes along that they cant handle, then Superman has to step in.

Plus as you said they just wouldnt offer an interesting challenge, disaster on a city wide scale is definately more appealing to me.

I agree. I also prefer him saving people rather than just fighting crime. He also stopped a robbery at a deli on one of the televisions at the Daily Planet. I also liked that (him being on the TVs).

Angeloz

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Yeah, i liked the way they showed that and said on the T.V "Showing that there really is no feat to big or to small for the Man Of Steel." t:

 

[afan]

I loved the bank robbery scene, but with criminals, the police can mostly deal with them, unless something drastic comes along that they cant handle, then Superman has to step in.

Shocked!!!!!!

If I recall correctly, you and I argued this very point ad infinitum, re. the lack of a public announcement in SR by Superman that he was journeying off planet. Your rationale was that criminals would have a field day as a result of said announcement, and yet this post indicates the exact opposite, that existing authorities can handle criminal activities, which was my point also.

Have you come to your senses??

 

[Angeloz]

You do realise he'd act as a deterrent to crime. Especially with weapons. Computers not so much.

Angeloz

 

[afan]

You do realise he'd act as a deterrent to crime. Especially with weapons. Computers not so much.

Angeloz

I don't think he would.

It's like the capital punishment issue, is that a deterrent? Maybe, maybe not.

Would a bank robbery in which the criminals use a tank be more likely to fail in the world of Superman, absolutely, but would the robbery of a convenience store by some low life, and perhaps the shooting of the clerk be less likely to occur, absolutely not.

 

[Angeloz]

Then they'd be caught and jailed. Although there are always new criminals that'd be caught and jailed. I'm not saying it wouldn't happen I'm saying some might decide to not to do robberies with weapons. However there was a couple in "Superman Returns". So it's not everyone.

Angeloz

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Shocked!!!!!!

If I recall correctly, you and I argued this very point ad infinitum, re. the lack of a public announcement in SR by Superman that he was journeying off planet. Your rationale was that criminals would have a field day as a result of said announcement, and yet this post indicates the exact opposite, that existing authorities can handle criminal activities, which was my point also.

Have you come to your senses??

No, because i clearly stated in the same post that things DO come along that the police cant handle. LIKE the bank robbery scene.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I don't think he would.

It's like the capital punishment issue, is that a deterrent? Maybe, maybe not.

Would a bank robbery in which the criminals use a tank be more likely to fail in the world of Superman, absolutely, but would the robbery of a convenience store by some low life, and perhaps the shooting of the clerk be less likely to occur, absolutely not.

Well, this i agree with, however, without Superman around, if criminals get their hands on some heavy weaponry, the police are screwed.

 

[Angeloz]

Ironically we in Australia had someone steal a tank (in Sydney or New South Wales I believe) and he went on a rampage. Luckily it was a civilian one that had no weaponry. The solution was they had to wait until it ran out of fuel I believe. 'Cos the police don't have tanks or anti-tank weapons. He damaged some mobile phone stuff (equipment) I think.

Angeloz

 

[afan]

Well, this i agree with, however, without Superman around, if criminals get their hands on some heavy weaponry, the police are screwed.

No doubt the police would be hard pressed, but I dare say they ( the police ) would ultimately prevail.

 

[afan]

Ironically we in Australia had someone steal a tank (in Sydney or New South Wales I believe) and he went on a rampage. Luckily it was a civilian one that had no weaponry. The solution was they had to wait until it ran out of fuel I believe. 'Cos the police don't have tanks or anti-tank weapons. He damaged some mobile phone stuff (equipment) I think.

Angeloz

Didn't know you live in Australia! The internet technology never ceases to astound.

Several years ago in California, i believe, two heavily armed and armored gunmen attempted a bank robbery. The attempt went wrong and an ensuing gun battle with responding police forces who were less armed ensued. The lightly armed police were at first impotent to stop the gunmen, and police and civilian casualties resulted, however ultimately both men were killed by police gunfire.

 

[Angeloz]

No doubt the police would be hard pressed, but I dare say they ( the police ) would ultimately prevail.

Nice optimism. Do you remember September 11, July 7 or March 11? Among other bombings.

Angeloz

 

[afan]

Nice optimism. Do you remember September 11, July 7 or March 11? Among other bombings.

Angeloz

Seriously, you are putting the collapse of the World Trade Center on a par with a bank hold up?

But since you brought it up, some in authority would claim that the security measures taken as a result of those events are the reason that 9/11 has yet to be repeated. In fact many arrests have occurred, and terrorist attacks averted across the globe as a result of those measures by law enforcement agencies. These are matters of fact.

It's arguable at least that this qualifies as "ultimately prevailing".

 

[Angeloz]

I was thinking heavy weaponry (bombs or the like). Ironically terrorists have had a history of bank robberies. Though I haven't heard of any by muslim extremists. Sorry if it's offensive.

Angeloz

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

No doubt the police would be hard pressed, but I dare say they ( the police ) would ultimately prevail.

Not against something like that IMO. Hence why Superman is needed, criminals are getting better equiped every day, plus Superman can stop them before they do MAJOR damage.

 

[Angeloz]

Seriously, you are putting the collapse of the World Trade Center on a par with a bank hold up?

But since you brought it up, some in authority would claim that the security measures taken as a result of those events are the reason that 9/11 has yet to be repeated. In fact many arrests have occurred, and terrorist attacks averted across the globe as a result of those measures by law enforcement agencies. These are matters of fact.

It's arguable at least that this qualifies as "ultimately prevailing".

I could argue against that but since it is a hot topic I won't. I really am sorry I brought it up. Actually I'm not sure if it's an even hotter topic but there's Katrina and the multiple failures there. Ironically I've heard Cuba managed to evacuate 1 million people so they didn't die in a hurricane in the past ten years (I think Ivan but could be wrong). So I'm not sure which was the more disastrous the Government or weather? Maybe both?

BTW it was interesting about California. I think I remember seeing something like that over ten years ago but am not sure if it was the same robbery.

Angeloz

 

[afan]

I was thinking heavy weaponry (bombs or the like). Ironically terrorists have had a history of bank robberies. Though I haven't heard of any by muslim extremists. Sorry if it's offensive.

Angeloz

No offense taken at all.

 

[Angeloz]

I'm glad. I'll try not to do it again.

Angeloz

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^I still stand by my point though Afan, i think Superman announcing he will gone for 5 years would make criminals more bold.

Unless Ghost Rider took over from him during those 5 years t:

 

[afan]

I could argue against that but since it is a hot topic I won't. I really am sorry I brought it up. Actually I'm not sure if it's an even hotter topic but there's Katrina and the multiple failures there. Ironically I've heard Cuba managed to evacuate 1 million people so they didn't die in a hurricane in the past ten years (I think Ivan but could be wrong). So I'm not sure which was the more disastrous the Government or weather? Maybe both?

BTW it was interesting about California. I think I remember seeing something like that over ten years ago but am not sure if it was the same robbery.

Angeloz

Interestingly New Orleans actually was not in the destructive path of Katrina, it was located on the calmer side of the storm, and was spared the immediate wrath of Katrina. It was flooding resulting from failing dams well after the storm had passed that was catastrophic. By the time the incredible scale of the flooding was identified it had already occurred.

 

[Angeloz]

I know it was mainly the flooding. But the water came from the storm. So it indirectly caused the disaster. As well as a lack of human planning (in more than one way).

Edited to add: Is there any silly criminal stories?

Angeloz

 

[afan]

I know it was mainly the flooding. But the water came from the storm. So it indirectly caused the disaster. As well as a lack of human planning (in more than one way).

Edited to add: Is there any silly criminal stories?

Angeloz

But the failure of the dams was not predictable. The path of the storm can be predicted and measures are taken, my parents who lived in an ocean front home on Cape Cod were evacuated many times over the years, but unforseen events can and do occurr. The charges of the incompetence of government agencies re. New Orleans is focussed on response not prevention.