Wrestling: The Action Soap Opera Thread - Part 14

[Dr. Evil]

It'll take another "Summer of Hell" like it was in 2007 for the General public to lose interest in the WWE and pro wrestling. IMO, The Summer of Hell 2007 played a significant role in the WWE going PG, otherwise I think it would have been TV 14 had it not been for that. That summer was when the WWE had to change everything, from its image to its current state. Had the WWE been able to remain at TV 14, they may have been able to take a few more risks with their product (but not go overboard completely).

Then again, if it wasn't for the Summer of Hell 2007, the WWE would not have its current drug testing policy. The WWE was able to recover from it, but they had to change in order to do so. If it happens again, who knows what the future of the WWE will be. As long as there isn't a second Summer of Hell, the general WWE audience won't care how bad the product is.

 

[TX85]

How the hell do you know its JUST the IWC? Have you asked every person in the f***in country that watches WWE or are you just asuming? If the general audience didn't care about WWE coasting we'd still be seeing attitude era ratings.

If it was JUST about the IWC the WWE's PPV buys would be dropping like stones in the water. Its stupid to ignore the facts.

The IWC isn't big enough for WWE's PPV buys to drop by almost 50 percet in some instances but they are.

-That's why I said"mostly"for each type!

-I never said it was JUST the IWC!

-Damn right the IWC is not big enough!

 

[Nemi]

I'm pretty sure The Rock having the rights to his name was one of the main reasons why vince is so adament on owning the rights to every wrestlers name that comes into the wwe,I don't think he wants to see that mistake happen again.

Why The Rock specifically?

 

[Metallo]

That's very true and I sure agree that this execution with Christian as champ then losing it 2days latter was done very bad!!,But they will also watch even after Orton gets the title on Smackdown cause sure many may be upset about it But they sure won't give a f**like the IWC and will still be giving there money to WWE than say"F*WWE,I'm done".

IWC are pissed now But they will still end up watching the next PPV on streams and mostly Raw anyway as the GA actually pays(moslty)for ppvs and end up forgetting all about this Christian thing while the IWC will still be posting for weeks&months how WWE screwed Christian!!,While by that time other things will be going on.

Most of IWC's problem is they wan't everything there way 100%and now now now!!

My problem is I want a good fresh show that makes sense not bullsh**. Thats not me "wanting my way" its just me wanting something good...especialy if I'm going to pay for it.

And last time i checked people watching WWE PPV's on illegal streams isn't going to pay WWE's bills. And more people are goign to be doign that INCLUDING the General Audience unless WWE gives them a godo reason too spend their money.

And even if the "IWC" keeps watchign doesn't mean everyone that posts here will so stop grouping us all together. Its for damn sure NOTHING is going to change if we ALL keep watching. Even if most people still watch doesn't mean we all have to if we don't want to.

 

[Kaleb]

Have the Corre broken up yet?

 

[Metallo]

probably not....you, Metallo, HR, etc are a small, very vocal, but SMALL part of the general viewing audience

Yeah everybody else who has quit watching and decided not to ever watch WWE didn't bother to be vocal about it. They just flipped right over to UFC and American Idol. You know...that casual viewing audience.

The nonvocal ones who didn't give enough of a sh** about wrestling to go online and complian. The ones that made up that lost 2.0 in the ratings thats only getting bigger.

-That's why I said"mostly"for each type!

-I never said it was JUST the IWC!

-Damn right the IWC is not big enough!

Well OBVIOUSLY that means more people than the ICW don't feel WWE is worth their time and/or money.

For the last 5 years WWE's PPV buys have been dropping like hooker in a US congressman's hotel room. Clearly the general audience isn't going to lap up every f***in thing WWE tries to feed them and last time I checked WWE likes to make money. And as over as Orton and Cena are the same old act ain't making the GA spend MORE they seem to be spending LESS.

And I'd imagine WWE would like to have every fan they can watching on tv or PPV when UFC is in a prime position to kick their a** if they really wanted to.

WWE's audience IS shrinking. Its happening slowly but it IS happening because guess what? The general audience ALSO has other stuff on tv fighting for their viewing attention. Stuff like UFC. WWE has been loosing potential fans to UFC and other MMA orgs. So maybe they better wake the f*** up and think about they will be in ten years while UFC is expanding.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Is the Rock a member of the Screen Actors Guild? If so, I wonder how other actors feel about that.

 

[TX85]

My problem is I want a good fresh show that makes sense not bullsh**. Thats not me "wanting my way" its just me wanting something good...especialy if I'm going to pay for it.

And last time i checked people watching WWE PPV's on illegal streams isn't going to pay WWE's bills. And more people are goign to be doign that INCLUDING the General Audience unless WWE gives them a godo reason too spend their money.

And even if the "IWC" keeps watchign doesn't mean everyone that posts here will so stop grouping us all together. Its for damn sure NOTHING is going to change if we ALL keep watching. Even if most people still watch doesn't mean we all have to if we don't want to.

-You do want it your way,"My problem is I want a good fresh show that makes sense not bullsh**. Thats not me "wanting my way" its just me wanting something good".....That is your OPINION and thus you wan't it to fit your opinion!!

-Of course it don't pay there bills,Well it depends cause some people DO want WWE still offers!!

-Oh of course,People will still be typing online no matter what happy or not and no need to stop typing,people type on forums about a topic they don't even care for But just feel the need to give there opinion and that's cool and just nature of the beast(Internet)!!!

 

[TX85]

Is the Rock a member of the Screen Actors Guild? If so, I wonder how other actors feel about that.

I'm very curious about that too!

 

[Metallo]

-You do want it your way,"My problem is I want a good fresh show that makes sense not bullsh**. Thats not me "wanting my way" its just me wanting something good".....That is your OPINION and thus you wan't it to fit your opinion!!

-Of course it don't pay there bills,Well it depends cause some people DO want that!!

-Oh of course,People will still be typing online no matter what happy or not and no need to stop typing,people type on forums about a topic they don't even care for But just feel the need to give there opinion and that's cool and just nature of the beast!!!

MY way would be me wanting something SPECIFIC. I just want something good. I'll take anything WWE gives me as long as its worthwile and doesn't insult my intelligence. That can be a WIDE variety of things that I have no choice in but instead is WWE''s choice. How exactly would ALL that be me wanting things my way? Christian still could have lost the title to Orton and I would have been fine with that if it wasn't so pointless.

Its not just me. A lot of people wanted that. And why SHOULDN'T people want something good if WWE expects them to pay foor it and keep buying their sh**?

Should we all get a spoon and eat up ANY garbage WWE puts in front of us and be sheep? You complain about is wanting it "our way" well whats the alternative?

And looking at WWE's dropping PPV buys and stagnant to dropping tv ratings its a LOT more people than the IWC.

Why are you complaining about other peoples complaining? If this Orton/Christian news doesn't bother you how is it a big deal to you?
The ICW can't account for 100,000 lost PPV buys in ONE years time. And this has been going on for years.

 

[Kaleb]

I'm very curious about that too!

I've always assumed he was.

 

[Darkness Falls]

just read the smackdown whc spoilers
u can add me to the list of pissed off people, what a load of S***

 

[Nemi]

Welcome to the club. We'll be having a ''not watching Smackdown" party this friday. It's bring your own beeer and double dipping is not allowed.

 

[Darkness Falls]

well i'm straight edge, but i'll stock up on vanilla coke instead

 

[Kaleb]

Wait they still sell vanilla coke?

 

[Darkness Falls]

they do here yes

 

[TheVileOne]

Is TNA now officially name changed to Impact now?

 

[SuperJ]

well i'm straight edge, but i'll stock up on vanilla coke instead

you're straight edge?? me too!!

 

[Darkness Falls]

you're straight edge?? me too!!

awesome

 

[Darkness Falls]

Is TNA now officially name changed to Impact now?

apparently so, its stupid, but then what isn't with tna


reguarding tna
tommy dreamer turning heel
chyna being kurt's "buisness associate/mistress

 

[Metallo]

Weren't a lot of people saying TNA needs to change their name because TNA wasn't a very good name? I'm not a fan of "Impact Wrestling" and would rather they stayed TNA but isn't this what some people wanted?

 

[Darkness Falls]

well the term "tna" could be considered misleading

the action on the show isn't that non stop ethier

 

[Hunter Rider]

I'm pretty sure The Rock having the rights to his name was one of the main reasons why vince is so adament on owning the rights to every wrestlers name that comes into the wwe,I don't think he wants to see that mistake happen again.

I actually think it was brought on by the way Brock left, Vince had poured a lot of time and money into making him a star and he suddenly walked, and given he used his real name Vince couldn't earn any money off Brock post-WWE.

 

[TheVileOne]

I don't really care at this point. I wouldn't have minded a name change along with a complete brand and roster overhaul. But they don't have money to do **** like that. Just keep doing the same **** they've been doing. Hogan is a ****ing wreck and disaster. I just wish he and *****off would go away.

 

[Mr.Webs]

they do here yes

You luckysonuva*****. Can you share? Add another to the straight edge bracket here.