Wrestling

[Sarge 2.0]

They've been doing that...but getting *****ed by the likes of Chris Masters hurts the credibility of a monster.

 

[Sabretooth]

That's just wrong. This guy is misused so badly it's pathetic.

I think his time for the World Heavyweight or WWE title may come pretty soon. As stupid as alot of his angles have been,Kane has been entirely loyal to WWE and has done his job. Vince also rewards loyalty,like giving guys like JBL,Edge,and Angle pushes in the main event. Hopefully his second reign will last MUCH longer than one single damn day this time.

 

[Sabretooth]

They've been doing that...but getting *****ed by the likes of Chris Masters hurts the credibility of a monster.

Ugh,I think being a credible monster pretty much went out the window after he cut a mouthpiece in his mask,where his career automatically went downhill.

 

[Mister J]

I think his time for the World Heavyweight or WWE title may come pretty soon. As stupid as alot of his angles have been,Kane has been entirely loyal to WWE and has done his job. Vince also rewards loyalty,like giving guys like JBL,Edge,and Angle pushes in the main event. Hopefully his second reign will last MUCH longer than one single damn day this time.

Oh, he's been loyal. Maybe he'll get his run when Trips has to go be Daddy Game. Of course, that assumes H beats Cena at WM. We all know that's a long shot.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

I think they need to make Kane a big draw first. And to do that, he needs to mess up some main eventers. Really, really mess them up. With no rhyme or reason, so you wouldn't know what or why he was going to do something violent next. My first pick for his hit list should be pretty obvious.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Triple H has a good life. Gets to bang Steph and headlines one of the main events at Mania every year

 

[The Ghoul]

Ugh,I think being a credible monster pretty much went out the window after he cut a mouthpiece in his mask,where his career automatically went downhill.

I aam going to agree with you to a certain extent. Did his carreer dwiindle after he cut out a mouth whole, Yes. But i don't think it was the cause. It was just the **** of the luck. Kane can cut a pretty good promo His laugh is pretty much his catchphrase. (It's better than "I'm Back" or "Su-Uh-ock It!")

 

[Maximus One]

ive always marked out for Kane every since he debuted (as kane) and it makes me so sad how they do him nowadays cuz he really is a good wrestler

 

[Sabretooth]

I aam going to agree with you to a certain extent. Did his carreer dwiindle after he cut out a mouth whole, Yes. But i don't think it was the cause. It was just the **** of the luck. Kane can cut a pretty good promo His laugh is pretty much his catchphrase. (It's better than "I'm Back" or "Su-Uh-ock It!")

I know it's not the reason. I was just saying that his career seemed to go downhill after his mouth became visible.


I like the idea of him attacking main eventers,and scaring the **** out of guys like Edge and Cena and even HHH (which I doubt would ever happen) *sigh*

 

[The Apatow Crew]

JBL Injured. Needs Surgery

WWE's website reported that JBL would be undergoing hand surgery tomorrow morning, stemming from an injury that occurred in the Smackdown main event when it was taped Tuesday evening in Virginia

PWInsider

The WWE no longer have *****

Wicks, Tolland released
February 22, 2006

WWE has come to terms on the release of both Chad Wicks and John Tolland who wrestled as “The *****.” We wish them the best in all future endeavors.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

IS EDDIE GUERRERO STILL ALIVE?

IS EDDIE GUERRERO STILL ALIVE?
By Kenny Casanova from www.KennyCasanova.com
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http://members.aol.com/k9casanova/


Ok… Now some people will want to beat me for saying this, but I find myself asking a question that isn’t appropriate in any light. However, it feels like WWE is booking something that doesn’t seem possible and I have found myself asking myself a silly question whenever I turn on WWE. …Is Eddie Guerrero still alive?

My feeling is other people have suspected this, but no one has the pistachios to come out and say it. So here I go; Eddie Guerrero’s death could all be a big super smart angle for a return at Wrestlemania.

My brother-in-law is not a wrestling fan, but comes over to eat wings when we get PPVs. He saw some of what was going on with Rey Mysterio and wanted to know if Eddie was still alive. Whether fans want to say it or not, recent WWE storylines are making it seem like Eddie Guerrero’s death HAS BEEN BOOKED BY A PROMOTER.

Why would Vince McMahon want to go there? Why would a global megalithic corporation like WWE want to fake the death of one of its superstar performers, risking the possible backlash that would occur from worldwide media and its fans? SIMPLE… WWE figured out this formula a long time ago…Bad publicity is good publicity.

In a day when it is impossible to fool the fans due to the widely used lighting quick communication resource called the Internet, the WWE knows that “strategic leaks” are the only way you can really throw off the modern wrestling fan and subsequently create interest. Recent examples of this have shown that there is money to be made from false leaks if it is done correctly.

The Edge & Hardy scandal was amplified, exploited and leaked, then turned into a moneymaker (though it was too bad Matt Hardy botched his return promo)… Chris Jericho puts up a TNA logo on his site to keep interest on him. Go back a few years and you will see other examples. Brian Pillman convinced WCW to break his contract so his crazy gimmick looked legit to anyone who might do the research (only to jump to WWF.) Vince Russo drops false rumors on the Internet to throw fans off to create more shock when storylines go the other way. Austin amplifies his hatred toward Eric Bischoff in an ECW stint to get sympathy from the crowd and to push the envelope of boss-hating.

Good wrestling promoters have a history of twisting the truth to make the most believable storylines going (i.e. Road Warrior Hawk drunk angle, Bret got screwed angle, N.W.O. and other various invasion plots etc&#8230 The promoters even work the wrestlers to get the leaks that they want these days and visa-versa.

There is so much foreshadowing going on that makes me think WWE is planning an “Eddie Return.” I know that odds of this are slim, and that this blog will be looked at as a big conspiracy theory. I agree with you and it is wrong to say it. But it would be even more wrong if they did it. What if Eddie’s death was a work? If it is, it is the greatest and, at the same time, the rudest work of all time.

I have asked a number of people in the business what they think about this and they say all about the same thing. “You are crazy,” or “I think that would be too F’ed up,” but after I drop a few little bombs on them that have made me wonder, they have wondered too.

The last time Eddie was on television, Ken Kennedy had hit him in the head with a chair. After the match, there was a promo with Batista. His head was all bandaged up and Batista was concerned. The last words Eddie said were, “Don’t worry about me, I am going to be alright.” This footage might be revisited if this is a big rude angle.

At the Eddie Guerrero Press Conference, Vince McMahon and Chavo Guerrero seemed to me to have too much composure. At the time when I watched it, I figured to myself, “Wow, Chavo is doing such a great job.” He didn’t seem sad and I figured if it were me, I would have been bawling my eyes out. I wondered why at the time and then resolved that it must just be he knew this day would eventually come, or maybe they were not as close as he had always told everyone. I look back now and wonder if this is a work, did Chavo think it wasn’t going to work.

Either there was and still is a lot of bad taste going on, or Eddie is still alive. Vince McMahon is a bastard, but grilling Eddie’s wife Vickie, a day or so after his death on live TV?!? How does someone even approach the option? How can you ask a widow to appear on TV when her husband isn’t even in the ground yet? Does WWE have no respect for dead people and mourning? Or did Vickie just get off the phone with a clean-shaven bald-headed Eddie Guerrero who is camping out in Jamaica?

Well if Eddie is alive and hiding out, how could this secret have lasted for four months? My guess is, if this is a work, the lockerroom could still be partially kayfabed to cut down possible leaks. And moreover, Eddie is probably just camping out, or maybe getting some kind of surgery somewhere and is indeed out of the public eye.

The WWE Raw & Smackdown Tribute shows seemed to contrived. While some of the wrestlers seemed very upset and concerned, others seemed like they needed to play to the camera. Now it is impossible to speculate (if this is a work) who knew and who did not know at the time of these shows. It is possible that only a tight group of people actually know the truth and might not have known the truth at the time of filming. I would suspect some (like Benoit) were informed immediately after the shooting with Eddie calling them. But even at that, Rey Mysterio did not seem moved at all. Mysterio taking off his mask seemed like the cliché “let’s make this look real” thing to do.

The tribute shows had a tinge of bull**** to them. The commentators on both shows said, “Eddie would have wanted this,” about a hundred times to validate what seemed like a moneymaker. This could be foreshadowing Vince blaming a return angle on Eddie, to keep the heat off of him in the future.

It is fact that most wrestlers have never been great actors, and the few who are have usually moved on to bigger and better the things. At the tribute shows, there was definitely a vibe of bad acting going on, which to me smells like a work. But were the wrestlers working the fans due to a future storyline, or because they felt obligated to be teary-eyed and were not?

One theory on the bad-acting vibe is maybe the wrestlers thought that they should be crying but were not, so they tried to. Seemed like some of the wrestlers were forcing themselves to cry because they thought that is what they should do in this situation, but the tears just were not turning on …It is possible that forced tears is the product of a desensitization to wrestler deaths –seeing how there have been so many. HOWEVER, forced tears could also be the product of the bad acting that goes along with another storyline.

I am sure that WWE knows how big the next-night ratings were when Pillman passed away and also Owen Hart. But they never had TWO tribute shows, due to a death in the family, nor has any death lasted as long with so much TV time and recognition as this one has.

WWE has referenced Eddie’s death NUMEROUS times every single show. It has continuously reminded the fans by armbands on Chavo (on Raw) and Rey Mysterio (on Smackdown) that Eddie Guerrero is no longer with us. Either this is a super sign of respect for the dead and the WWE has finally got it and learned that life is valuable and we should not forget, or (gulp) …it means something else, something I hate to even think of.

 

[Mister J]

I'm going to pretend I didn't even see that.

 

[Eric Draven]

I have to admit, I got a really good laugh out of that....

 

[The Apatow Crew]

I'm going to pretend I didn't even see that.

yes i know its messed up but i gotta show oh damn stupid people are. sorry if anyone was offened. what a doofus that guy is.

 

[citizenpain]

yeah, eddie guerrero is alive. he's playin poker with owen hart and the texas tornado right now.

 

[The Batman]

regarding kane, hes damaged goods. i doubt he'll ever win the WHC or WWE title. He's 39, and the wwe have made him look weak, compared to Taker, whos managed to beat some of the all time greats. Kane needs to beat main eventers, get over, and reestablish himself as a dangerous mofo

 

[The Techno Bat]

regarding kane, hes damaged goods. i doubt he'll ever win the WHC or WWE title. He's 39, and the wwe have made him look weak, compared to Taker, whos managed to beat some of the all time greats. Kane needs to beat main eventers, get over, and reestablish himself as a dangerous mofo

I agree with this, I don't think Kane will be wearing that World Title strap again. He seems to be stepping backwards with his wwe career whether it is his choice or not. If they are going to make Kane the guy to put over guys like Masters, Carlito, Murdoch, etc. then I think Kane should move on from the WWE, retire or try to move over to Smackdown or something....

 

[The Batman]

I agree with this, I don't think Kane will be wearing that World Title strap again. He seems to be stepping backwards with his wwe career whether it is his choice or not. If they are going to make Kane the guy to put over guys like Masters, Carlito, Murdoch, etc. then I think Kane should move on from the WWE, retire or try to move over to Smackdown or something....

i think, imo, part of it is kane's fault.he seems like he'll just do anything they tell him to do, no matter how stupid it is or how much it damages his character. in fact, glen jacobs seems like he was always at the mercy of the WWE.

Kane couldve been awesome, a more unstable version of taker.

 

[The Techno Bat]

i think, imo, part of it is kane's fault.he seems like he'll just do anything they tell him to do, no matter how stupid it is or how much it damages his character. in fact, glen jacobs seems like he was always at the mercy of the WWE.

Kane couldve been awesome, a more unstable version of taker.

He has done some really dumb and silly stuff for the WWE, I think he was The Black Knight, Dr. Issac Yankem, and I can't remember if he was the fake Diesel or Fake Razor Ramon, but he has done alot of stuff that I would have said "NO" too. Especially that Katie Vick stuff, that was flat out wrong and Dumb...

 

[Eric Draven]

regarding kane, hes damaged goods. i doubt he'll ever win the WHC or WWE title. He's 39, and the wwe have made him look weak, compared to Taker, whos managed to beat some of the all time greats. Kane needs to beat main eventers, get over, and reestablish himself as a dangerous mofo

Yeah, I think so too. He's just been part of too much stupid **** to salvage his career. Oh sure, he'll get a little push every now and then, but that's only to really enforce his character as nothing more than a "threat" to current and future main eventers.....

 

[Mister J]

He has done some really dumb and silly stuff for the WWE, I think he was The Black Knight, Dr. Issac Yankem, and I can't remember if he was the fake Diesel or Fake Razor Ramon, but he has done alot of stuff that I would have said "NO" too. Especially that Katie Vick stuff, that was flat out wrong and Dumb...

Fake Diesel.

I'm sorry, I must be one of the few tht thought Trips humping that mannequin or whatever was funny. I nearly cried watching it. I was so stupid, I couldn't help it.

 

[The Techno Bat]

Yeah, I think so too. He's just been part of too much stupid **** to salvage his career. Oh sure, he'll get a little push every now and then, but that's only to really enforce his character as nothing more than a "threat" to current and future main eventers.....

I think what they should really do with Kane, is allow him and The Big Show to beat MNM @ WM, unify the Tag Team title straps, and totally dominate the tag team division, and go back and forth from Raw to Smackdown defending the tag team belts

 

[Eric Draven]

Fake Diesel.

I'm sorry, I must be one of the few tht thought Trips humping that mannequin or whatever was funny. I nearly cried watching it. I was so stupid, I couldn't help it.

I literally couldn't watch that segment. It was so cringeworthy and I knew what was coming up. I think the only other time I couldn't watch a WWE segment like that was Vince McMahon's dumbass rectal surgery of JR.

 

[Mister J]

OK, so you guys are saying that if Kane started going ape*** and Chokeslamming top card guys, left and right, you wouldn't buy it?

Look at the goofy stuff Angle has done, or JBL or even Edge. Come on. Kane just needs some good booking.

 

[The Techno Bat]

Fake Diesel.

I'm sorry, I must be one of the few tht thought Trips humping that mannequin or whatever was funny. I nearly cried watching it. I was so stupid, I couldn't help it.

Thanks, I thought it was Fake Diesel, do you remember who played Fake Razor?