X3 Box Office Tracker

[YJ1]

^ I just bought some IMAX stock today in anticipation of Superman breaking some records for the company. Just 500 shares.

Stick with MVL stock.

IMAX viewing is very overrated to me. It's just not worth the extra ticket price.

 

[Carp Man]

My world has just come unglued. Roger Ebert gives SR 2 stars. Only 1 star better then he gave FF. Call Ripleys. In Ebert's opinion, SR is only 1 star better then FF ? My day has been made.

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060626/REVIEWS/60606009

Im in total uter shock.

Superman Returns


BY ROGER EBERT / June 27, 2006

It's no fun being Superman. Your life is a lie, there's nobody you can confide in, you're in love but can't express it, and you're on call 24 hours a day. But it can be fun being in a Superman movie. The original "Superman" (1978) was an exuberance of action and humor, because Christopher Reeve could play the character straight and let us know he was kidding.

"Superman II" (1980) was just about as good, but "Superman III" (1983) was a disappointment. "Superman IV: The Quest for Peace," with Reeve, bombed in 1987, and then the series was quiet for 19 years. Now the Man of Steel is back in Bryan Singer's "Superman Returns," which, like its hero, spends a lot of time dead in the water.

This is a glum, lackluster movie in which even the big effects sequences seem dutiful instead of exhilarating. The newsroom of the Daily Planet, filled with eccentricity and life in the earlier movies, now seems populated by corporate drones. Jimmy Olsen, the copy boy, such a brash kid, seems tamed and clueless. Lois Lane (Kate Bosworth) has lost her dash and pizzazz, and her fiance, Richard White (James Marsden), regards her like a deer caught in the headlights. Even the editor, Perry White (Frank Langella), comes across less like a curmudgeon, more like an efficient manager.

One problem is with the casting. Brandon Routh lacks charisma as Superman, and I suppose as Clark Kent, he isn't supposed to have any. Routh may have been cast because he looks a little like Reeve, but there are times when he looks more like an action figure; were effects used to make him seem built from synthetics? We remember the chemistry between Christopher Reeve and Margot Kidder (Lois Lane) in the original "Superman" movie, and then observe how their counterparts are tongue-tied in this one. If they had a real romance (and they did), has it left them with nothing more than wistful looks and awkward small talk?

It's strange how little dialogue the title character has in the movie. Clark Kent is monosyllabic, and Superman is microsyllabic. We learn Superman was away for five years on a mission to the remains of his home planet, Krypton. In the meantime, Lois got herself a boyfriend and a little son, played by Tristan Lake Leabu, who mostly stares at people like a beta version of Damien, the kid from "The Omen." Now Superman and (coincidentally) Clark have returned, Clark gets his old job, and Lex Luthor (Kevin Spacey) is out of prison and plotting to rule the earth.

Lex's plan: use crystals from kryptonite to raise up a new continent in the mid-Atlantic and flood most of the surface of the populated world. Then he'll own all the real estate. Location, location, location. Alas, the craggy landscape he produces couldn't be loved by a mountain goat and won't be habitable for a million years, but never mind. Spacey plays Luthor as sour and sadistic; he has no fun with the role, nor do we.

As for Superman, he's a one-trick pony. To paraphrase Archimedes: "Give me a lever and a place to stand, and I will move the universe." Superman doesn't need the lever or the place to stand, but as he positions himself in flight, straining to lift an airplane or a vast chunk or rock, we reflect that these activities aren't nearly as cinematic as what Batman and Spider-Man get up to. Watching Superman straining to hold a giant airliner, I'm wondering: Why does he strain? Does he have his limits? Would that new Airbus be too much for him? What about if he could stand somewhere?

Superman is vulnerable to one, and only one, substance: kryptonite. He knows this. We know this. Lex Luthor knows this. Yet he has been disabled by kryptonite in every one of the movies. Does he think Lex Luthor would pull another stunt without a supply on hand? Why doesn't he take the most elementary precautions? How can a middle-aged bald man stab the Man of Steel with kryptonite?

Now about Lois' kid. We know who his father is, and Lois knows, and I guess the kid knows, although he calls Richard his daddy. But why is nothing done with this character? He sends a piano flying across a room, but otherwise he just stares with big, solemn eyes, like one of those self-sufficient little brats you can't get to talk. It would have been fun to give Superman a bright, sassy child, like one of the Spy Kids, and make him a part of the plot.

There is I suppose a certain bottom line of competence in "Superman Returns," and superhero fans will want to see the movie just for its effects, its plot outrages and its moments of humor. But when the hero, his alter ego, his girlfriend and the villain all seem to lack any joy in being themselves, why should we feel joy at watching them?

 

[Darkdd]

What?I thought this was 3 stars for sure!

 

[WorthyStevens]

My world has just come unglued. Roger Ebert gives SR 2 stars. Only 1 star better then he gave FF. Call Ripleys. In Ebert's opinion, SR is only 1 star better then FF ? My day has been made.

This is the X3 box office thread, not the Superman review thread.

 

[phantom47]

I just got back froma special here downtown and I 100% agree with ebert. Ill give a review of it trying to be spoiler free. I mean The whole movie was CGI infused even when it didnt need to be. There was 2 scenes in the movie that were above the rest but I was still just was sorta underwhelmed. The movie even tough 2 hours and 45 minutes long seemed rushed at the begining but Ruth does a god job. I mean hes no reeve but he does decent. The only flaw seems to be that he seems shy about his role as superman. Bosworth does decent as well, it took a while to get into her role but she does become lois lane. kevin to me was the highlight of the whole movie he does a brilliant job as lex.

overall id give it 2.5/4

PS I cant stand the kid!!!!

 

[phantom47]

This is the X3 box office thread, not the Superman review thread.

well then just disregard my post

 

[Carp Man]

This is the X3 box office thread, not the Superman review thread.

It's here for the Marvel fans to read, and enjoy. Been waiting for Ebert's review. And I'm going to crow. Just as much as the BB fans we're crowing in the BB forums when FF's review came out. Just took a walk on the wild side over on the Superman boards. They got the bad news and are going nuts. Time for me to have a good laugh.

 

[phantom47]

Monday Numbers Are In $625,454 Total 225,131,616 DOWM 29.3 FROM LAST MONDAY AND DOWN 57 FROM YESTERDAY

 

[Carp Man]

Updated #'s below. Over the 225 million mark.

 

[phantom47]

wHEN COMPARING TO X2 AND X1

X2 DID $451,977 DROPPING 83.5% FROM THE PREVIOUS MONDAY AND 69.7 SUNDAY

X1 DID $590,113 DROPING 40.1 FROM THE MONDAY BEFORE AND 53.9 FROM SUNDAY

 

[phantom47]

We will see a boost maybe tomorrow but def. weds. cause superman comes out and there could be sold out ttheaters and people we just opt to see X-Men 3 instead...the same happened when Omen opened on Tuesday

*just remember if you see superman pay for and xmen ticket and watch superman instead

 

[WorthyStevens]

It's here for the Marvel fans to read, and enjoy. Been waiting for Ebert's review. And I'm going to crow. Just as much as the BB fans we're crowing in the BB forums when FF's review came out. Just took a walk on the wild side over on the Superman boards. They got the bad news and are going nuts. Time for me to have a good laugh.

Your laugh is a short lived one, seeing as how Superman has been getting amazing reviews, despite Ebert's negative one.

 

[Carp Man]

We will see a boost maybe tomorrow but def. weds. cause superman comes out and there could be sold out ttheaters and people we just opt to see X-Men 3 instead...the same happened when Omen opened on Tuesday

*just remember if you see superman pay for and xmen ticket and watch superman instead

LOL. But yes I could see that happening. However, I would perfer to see sold out X-Men, and empty SR theaters, but ahhhhhhhhhhh I can dream.

 

[Carp Man]

Your laugh is a short lived one, seeing as how Superman has been getting amazing reviews, despite Ebert's negative one.

Well at RT, critics are 78 %, but user reviews are 69 %. OUCH. Where as X 3 had a 57 % favoriable, but a 73 % favoriable user review.

 

[PowersOfMind]

Hmmmm... didnt see that kind of review coming. I figured he like it.Go figure.

The fact the some people , if they cant get in to see SR, might go see X3 is a notion I hope comes to pass.


Has anyone ever been to the theater and the name of the movie on you ticket is not the movie you paid to see but the ticket guy lets you in anyway?

 

[WorthyStevens]

Well at RT, critics are 78 %, but user reviews are 69 %. OUCH. Where as X 3 had a 57 % favoriable, but a 73 % favoriable user review.

X3 has 530 user reviews, while Superman has 26. Wait some time and we can compare then.

 

[Carp Man]

X3 has 530 user reviews, while Superman has 26. Wait some time and we can compare then.

I don't like what I'm hearing, I don't think it will resinate with the folks who remember Christopher Reeves, therefore it will have a quick start ala X3, then fizzle. Just my personnel opinion. People are much more excited over POTC, then SR. It has to make a ton of money to recoupe the production, and marketing cost.

 

[GL's Light]

Ebert's negative review is one of the few outliers among many positive reviews for SR, whereas his pan of FF was right in line with the preponderance of critical opinion of that film. Not much to crow about, unless you mistakenly think Ebert is somehow a god amongst critics.

 

[Carp Man]

Ebert's negative review is one of the few outliers among many positive reviews for SR, whereas his pan of FF was right in line with the preponderance of critical opinion of that film. Not much to crow about, unless you mistakenly think Ebert is somehow a god amongst critics.

In your opinion. Ebert is one of the most respected. And him rating SR 1 star better then FF is indeed intresting. Driving fans in the Superman boards nuts. LOL. However, it will start fast, then once the emotional effect has worn off, and you see it for what it is, very few will want to go back for a second helping. Just like X3. More people are talking, and I see more advertisments, and more excitment over POTC, then SR. POTC is the kryptonite, along with the movie, that will prevent SR from being all it could be.

 

[WorthyStevens]

In your opinion. Ebert is one of the most respected. And him rating SR 1 star better then FF is indeed intresting. Driving fans in the Superman boards nuts. LOL. However, it will start fast, then once the emotional effect has worn off, and you see it for what it is, very few will want to go back for a second helping. Just like X3. More people are talking, and I see more advertisments, and more excitment over POTC, then SR.

And how exactly do you know what Superman 'is'? Have you seen the movie yet?

 

[GL's Light]

In your opinion. Ebert is one of the most respected. And him rating SR 1 star better then FF is indeed intresting. Driving fans in the Superman boards nuts. LOL. However, it will start fast, then once the emotional effect has worn off, and you see it for what it is, very few will want to go back for a second helping. Just like X3. More people are talking, and I see more advertisments, and more excitment over POTC, then SR. POTC is the kryptonite, along with the movie, that will prevent SR from being all it could be.

Well, since you invest so much in his opinions it must really strike a dagger into your heart that he only gave FF one star.

 

[Carp Man]

And how exactly do you know what Superman 'is'? Have you seen the movie yet?

Nope. And won't go see it till it comes to the 50 cent movie theater. 50 cents all day Tuesday. The trailers look sharp, but trailers can be decieving. And my opinion on what it is is based on what I've heard. Not just from Ebert, but other people who have seen it. It will not be accepted by the hardcore, Christopher Reeve ( Superman ) fan, IMO

 

[WorthyStevens]

Nope. And won't go see it till it comes to the 50 cent movie theater. 50 cents all day Tuesday. The trailers look sharp, but trailers can be decieving. And my opinion on what it is is based on what I've heard. Not just from Ebert, but other people who have seen it. It will not be accepted by the hardcore, Christopher Reeve ( Superman ) fan, IMO

And I've heard Routh fits the bill as Superman, even when compared to Reeve.

 

[Carp Man]

Well, since you invest so much in his opinions it must really strike a dagger into your heart that he only gave FF one star.

Nah. I loved the movie, as did others by the final #'s. Ebert nor anyone else was going to tell me any different, and it did well for the piece of crap movie it was suppose to be. I got a great deal of satisfaction from the suscess of the movie. Great deal of satisfaction on proving him wroung, and a great deal of satisfaction that he gives it 1 more star then FF. Shows he can be objective. He's not the DC fan I thought he was. All I hear over on Superman boards is ohhhhhhhh he rated BB 4 stars how can he give SR 2 stars. Fanboys run the full gamit, but not like DC, and Marvel.

 

[GL's Light]

So when Ebert gives SR two stars he's being objective, but his one star review for FF is somehow proven objectively "wroung" by FF's box office? Never mind that quality and box office returns aren't linked in any definable way. Your DC vs Marvel obsession is warping your thought process beyond logical comprehension.